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I have done a lot of QM races now and it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. So my question is, what can be done about drivers who only do QM's to wait on the track for whoever is leading to crash them out?

Not the typical aggressive Brazilian drivers, I'm talking about stopping at the end of the straight on lap 1 and waiting to hit cars on their way to lap two, then again on lap three...never completing a lap.

After three races thinking I Might have hit GT6_Player in turn 1, I left the race to watch what he did. He hit everyone as they tried to pass his parked car. This went on for 8 races, some of which I saved.

I blocked him, but he needs a more severe penalty, like a 30, 60 or 90 day suspension, IMO. How can I get that done?
 
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I've come across some dirtbags like that as well, but they've only gotten me once. After that one time, I always watch the arrows to see if anybody is playing dirty, and position myself in a weird line to avoid them (turn one on Grand Valley is easy because you can just take an outside lane and not lose a whole lot of time.) Maybe if PD had a minimum lap time you had to maintain it could avoid something like this on QM. For instance, on Grand Valley, if you can't run a 3:00 you get AI takeover and sent to the pits while "flashing" so you can't be hit and are not an obstacle to other drivers.
 
I think we have to accept that, to some extent, QM is full of idiots. Keep doing it for the credits if you need them but do other things for a good racing experience. There are still decent clubs going who organise their races through GTP.
QM's that use cars from your own garage seem to be improving in quality though. Maybe that's the plus side of the total number of players in GT6 decreasing as the game gets old.
 
All true. I've seen some hacks before and lost souls who want to slam their way to the front, block you into the wall and so on. But to just spend every race waiting to wipe out other racers. Never seen it this bad before.

I'm going to try and see if the replay vid can be sent to PD.



I do think they need a minimum lap though, that's a great idea. If the bronze time would be 1:59 then at 2:20 you're booted off the server.
 
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All true. I've seen some hacks before and lost souls who want to slam their way to the front, block you into the wall and so on. But to just spend every race waiting to wipe out other racers. Never seen it this bad before.

I'm going to try and see if the replay vid can be sent to PD.



I do think they need a minimum lap though, that's a great idea. If the bronze time would be 1:59 then at 2:20 you're booted off the server.
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The issue now is, there are some extremely incompetent drivers who can barely muster a 2:20. Ithink instead of lap time, the speed of the vehicle should be checked. Like, say, they check the vehicle every 15 seconds. If it's below 20 MPH, it flags the car for a second check. If the second check is false (below 20) the user gets a warning. If they fail the third check, they're ejected from the lobby.
 
At the very least they should be flashing and unable to affect the race. Even at speed though that car is a hazard at 500pp.
 
wedjim
I'm going to try and see if the replay vid can be sent to PD.
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That won't matter a jot.

wedjim
After three races thinking I Might have hit GT6_Player in turn 1, I left the race to watch what he done
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It's best not to name & shame people on here.
 
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This sort of thing happens in a lot of racing games. I've seen it in QM in gt6, and I've seen it in Forza 6. Some of them position themselves in tricky spots, sharp turns etc. Some of them pull out on a straightaway right before the pack comes through. In Forza 6, if they turn around and go the wrong way, they are ghosted, but if they are facing the right way they aren't. It sucks, I just watch the map, and you can tell when some :censored:bag isn't racing, and he's getting in postion for when everyone comes back around, I prepare to do some dodging. It's a lot better when everyone is spread out a bit. It's hard to do major evasive maneuvers when your in a pack, without wrecking others.
 
The answer would be a qualifying round for the skill deprived slow pokes. It would not get rid of all the punks but maybe thin them out? Maybe a 3 strike rule similar to Shift2? It's the wild west in QM sometimes. Other times I get some good clean competition.
 
I know... I have no good answer lol. In my opinion though if a car is moving slow or stopped it should ghost. Maybe we need to troll the trolls? Follow them around and try to pin them down with a vballasted up Lister Storm? Maybe the Opera just in case they can actually drive?
 
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That won't matter a jot.


It's best not to name & shame people on here.
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I suspected it wouldn't matter to PD as well.

He shamed himself, he named himself. I simply posted the truth. If it's troublesome to the mods, then I will no longer do so.
 
There is really nothing to prevent such behavior - it occurs in many games. TDU2 for instance was full of rammers at one point - though they seem to have moved on. Even regular lobbies have that problem - though there is some control there because the host can take some action.
Quick Match is what it is - a Hit or Miss situation - sometimes one may come across a group that is utilising the event right, at other times someone out there is entertaining a room full of people - at the cost of GT6 players.
 
What I don't understand is "why do players stay on a lobby with cheaters, trolls, hackers and rage on them the whole game?" Back in my COD days I will immediately get out off the lobby if I found out what they were. I even wrote down their usernames.
 
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LOL, I had this today at Tsukuba, I always ride well up front. And that crazy riders try to throw you all into the first corner out. Well, I can laugh about it. Few beers there and avoid them. good training:lol:
 
I know it's not ideal if you're on a fast run but you could always hit the start button just before you get to them. Ghost through them and then carry on. Better than giving them the satisfaction of successfully trolling your race.

If they're persistent offenders though, find another room instead. They only want you in the room to block you but that's hard to do if you leave. Fortunately, these low IQ, missing link candidates are rare and the grass is greener elsewhere.

Quick match in Polyphonion means hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
 
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What I don't understand is "why do players stay on a lobby with cheaters, trolls, hackers and rage on them the whole game?" Back in my COD days I will immediately get out off the lobby if I found out what they were. I even wrote down their usernames.
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Sometimes it fun to make them miss, see how long they intend to hack or just figure out if there is a direct problem you may have caused.
If I have time to kill, sometimes(rarely), I try and frustrate them back. They expect people to leave, so checking out gives them what the want.

I think it's always about the challenge. But at the same time I don't think it should be allowed to happen.

Sounds confusing, lol.

It's 7:30, Time to race some QM's.
 
wedjim
Sometimes it fun to make them miss, see how long they intend to hack or just figure out if there is a direct problem you may have caused.
If I have time to kill, sometimes(rarely), I try and frustrate them back. They expect people to leave, so checking out gives them what the want.

I think it's always about the challenge. But at the same time I don't think it should be allowed to happen.

Sounds confusing, lol.

It's 7:30, Time to race some QM's.
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I just got done some 500PP QM races. I was amazed that when another car went flying off the road, then across the road into a sandpit, I figured well I guess that guy is a goner. Suddenly, his car materializes 50 yards ahead of me going like the clappers. This was like 5 seconds after he started playing in the sandbox?!!? WTF over! When I go into that same sandbox, I have to struggle for some time to get out of it. There is some serious cheating going on here. Not just that annoying incident but the guy then engaged the supercharger and rode off to victory. Since I was driving a pretty fast S2000, I knew there was not many cars faster than mine, turning 1:52- 1:53 at Grand Valley.

So, I wonder if any of these guys are aware that they have a little national flag over their car. Since most of the cheaters are Americans, shall we call America the home of the brave, or........

Food for thought,
Pete
 
There is no magic cheat code or secret server hack I've ever seen or even heard of. But, there is plenty of lag and poor connections that cause cars to race wildly around the track, popping up in front and behind, smoking tires, ramming into you and sending you flying. Is that what your referring too?

If your saying a car went off then still caught up to you and passed within a few turns, but wasn't acting odd during the whole race, that most likely means he was pretty fast and made 1 mistake.


If it matters, my best lap is 1:50.2 and my best total time is 5:38.02x with the Opera. I've done 1:51's and 5:41.xx totals with the Ferrari 330. Not because I'm American though, likely my Irish ancestory...I guess.
 
That does sound like lag to me. The first time I saw a TS030 at the 500 there was bad lag. Freaked me out to the point I was all over the track lol. It still kind of spooks me to see a car lagging even though I know what it is now.
 
Sorry for the late post due to being away for a while. I've experienced cheaters or dirty drivers under pretty much every flag. Some worse than others. Yet when one looks at why they are dirty I tend to agree it's more age. It's pretty easy to tell when its a lag issue rather than a ramming or dirty one. I've taken to task more than a few Canadians for screwing with our reputation as fair racers. What I've learned from the experience? Most drivers who I've called out for being dirty don't really care what any of us think as they are there for their own form of enjoyment and they truly don't care how it effects ours. They also tend to get bored and move on when you don't retaliate and continue to race with class. If you race race clean no matter what it really does make a difference in the bubble around you eventually.
 
As Brutal as special stage 7 is, drivers can't wait for you to come back around or take short cuts. They can however slam into the wall at 230+ mph without penalty and get angry if you bump into them while they are doing so....rofl.

Can't wait for new QM's.

Just me?
 
Not just you.

I find that an easy way to make the rammers RQ is to mess with them. If you see one, ghost through them and if they chase you, feint and take stranger lines through the turns. What I do is I brake more than I need to and stay on the outside. The sudden lower speed and the late turn-in always makes a rammer overshoot and fly into the wall/sandpit/runoff.
 
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Not just you.

I find that an easy way to make the rammers RQ is to mess with them. If you see one, ghost through them and if they chase you, feint and take stranger lines through the turns. What I do is I brake more than I need to and stay on the outside. The sudden lower speed and the late turn-in always makes a rammer overshoot and fly into the wall/sandpit/runoff.
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I use that one too - it's great fun!
 
Seeing how route 7 worked out on the first day, I haven't been back. I'd rather do time trials on Route X than run against people in slower cars I magically find myself wheel to wheel to wall with. A waste of space event.

I guess I don't like it.
 
I just try to ignore them. It's pretty annoying and happens often but PD has taken some measures to prevent it.
Trust me on this though:lag makes it much much worse
 
I've probably spent about 12 million credits trying to find a better car than the Supra and 300ZX. I got the Lotus going close, the 3000GT handles WAY better, but lacks top end by about 18-20 mph.

All offline just for my own entertainment. I raced the Lotus V8 a couple times and I see it's got a small following.




How much longer until there are new QM's?
 

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