What drivetrain does the Mazda Furai have?

[Amin1992]

I own one but it does not tell you the drivetrain. I'm guessing its MR but i'd like to know for sure.

 

[baubry]

Did a little bit of reading, and Wikipedia/a few other articles were no help. Finally found this one:
[URL="http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3515/Mazda-Furai-Concept.html"]http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3515/Mazda-Furai-Concept.html[/URL]
It is a mid-engine RWD with a rotary engine. 👍

 

[alextehkid]

Yeah its MR in real life, but it doesn't register as that in the game, so you can't use it in MR events.

 

[baubry]

Read through the Wiki article a bit more, and on the right side it says that it is the M4 configuration, which is mid-engine 4WD. There are contradicting statements everywhere... I guess we still don't know what drivetrain it really is...

 

[alextehkid]

I never checked up on the facts, but just thought it was MR since it handles like a MR car. Might have some wierd engine configuration, but you would suspect the engine to be mounted in the middle looking at the body of the car.

 

[Amin1992]

Thanks for the replies.
I don't know why the game doesn't tell you in the first place.

 

[E38]

The way GT-Auto treats it for the oil change suggests mid-engined. But it doesn't qualify for the MR series so I thought it may be mid-4WD, but it definitely seems to drive more like an MR.

 

[Blitz24]

Possibly because it was a concept car, PD didn't bother with trying to decipher what drive-train it had. The car behaved as a Mid Engine car would, but due to the control its impossible to determine if it was MR or M4WD.

 

[saidaouita]

Dumb question but can you turn traction control completely off and "light up the tires" to see if just the rear or all four spin?

 

[rampageturke]

it's MR

 

[GTP_roadrunner]

It´s got to be MR cause with a customisable LSD it lets you adjust the rear wheels only.

 

[ashes619]

Dumb question but can you turn traction control completely off and "light up the tires" to see if just the rear or all four spin?

That's a pretty good question I thought. I don't know and won't know for 20 hours or so but that is a good idea. Hopefully someone tries it.

 

[Poppins]

it has a 3 rotor 20b turbocharged wankel in it.

it should make nearly twice as much hp as it does >.>

 

[freedomweasel]

It's MR with a triple rotor.

No idea why the wiki article says AWD. Wiki can easily be wrong though.

 

[Delta795]

General specifications
Country of origin Japan
Numbers built N/A (Prototype)
Produced in 2008
Introduced at 2008 NAIAS

Engine
Configuration Renesis R20B R 3
Location Mid, longitudinally mounted

Drivetrain
Chassis/body carbon fibre monocoque
Suspension (fr/r) double wishbones, coil springs over dampers
Steering rack-and-pinion, power assisted
Brakes ventilated carbon discs, all-round
Drive Rear wheel drive

Dimensions
Length / Width / Height N/A / 2000 mm (78.7 in) / 1000 mm (39.4 in)

Performance figures
Power 450 bhp / 336 KW

 

[land sea air]

the car is essentially the Mazda courage that Mazda raced in the ALMS series in the early 2000s (saw the car race at limerock some years ago) with a concept car body on it. It may have been de-tuned to make the car more driveable or it may simply be PD guessing at power figures a bit. I believe the the courage made around 5 or 600 hp but I can't find an actual number. The original car ran in the LMP2 class and wasn't particularly successful. The engine is NA not turbo.

 

[ElSecundo]

Did a little bit of reading, and Wikipedia/a few other articles were no help. Finally found this one:
[URL="http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3515/Mazda-Furai-Concept.html"]http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3515/Mazda-Furai-Concept.html[/URL]
It is a mid-engine RWD with a rotary engine. 👍

Yeah, it's basically a Courage LMP2 car with a 3-rotor engine. It's probably safe to say that modern LMP's are MR configured. Even as small as rotary motors are, I'm sure it's behind the driver. It's cool to see a concept car that not only drives, but can actually perform.

GT can be weird sometimes with their drive configurations. Not sure why.

 

[freedomweasel]

the car is essentially the Mazda courage that Mazda raced in the ALMS series in the early 2000s (saw the car race at limerock some years ago) with a concept car body on it. It may have been de-tuned to make the car more driveable or it may simply be PD guessing at power figures a bit. I believe the the courage made around 5 or 600 hp but I can't find an actual number. The original car ran in the LMP2 class and wasn't particularly successful. The engine is NA not turbo.

It's a Courage chassis, but I don't think there has been a rotary in a LMP since 91 or 92 (ie the 787B).

 

[land sea air]

It's a Courage chassis, but I don't think there has been a rotary in a LMP since 91 or 92 (ie the 787B).

there has been, http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...Ctgeo2LWXDw&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0

I know this car up close and personal, my cousin works for Mazda and is the one who tries to secure sponsorship for their racing programs

 

[Famine]

Yeah its MR in real life, but it doesn't register as that in the game, so you can't use it in MR events.

This. In-game driven wheels are detectable by this:

Dumb question but can you turn traction control completely off and "light up the tires" to see if just the rear or all four spin?

And yes, it's modelled as an MR.

 

[sday]

You guys have me really curious now. I am also going to see what Forza says it is. Will report that tonight.

 

[land sea air]

there is nothing to be curious about, it's MR

here is some cool info about the original car http://www.mulsannescorner.com/couragec65-9.html

 

[freedomweasel]

there has been,
[picture]
I know this car up close and personal, my cousin works for Mazda and is the one who tries to secure sponsorship for their racing programs

Awesome. I had no idea. I guess it's just the 24hr of Le Mans that banned Wankels then? Or is it just LMP1?

Time to go learn more.

edit: great second link, thanks!

 

[land sea air]

Awesome. I had no idea. I guess it's just the 24hr of Le Mans that banned Wankels then? Or is it just LMP1?

Time to go learn more.

edit: great second link, thanks!

They aren't banned, just not as feasible as the MZR 4 cylinder turned out to be later on. Oil consumption was always a problem and special oil was mixed with the fuel instead of having total loss from the engine oiling system like street rotaries have. As I said this was never a very successful car and the team was very small at the time, very fun crew to hang out with and repairs were often made quickly and updates sometimes involved less than standard procedures as can be seen in the link. I have some pics and stories if anyone is interested (I know it's a bit off topic since this is technically about the concept car)

 

[freedomweasel]

They aren't banned, just not as feasible as the MZR 4 cylinder turned out to be later on. Oil consumption was always a problem and special oil was mixed with the fuel instead of having total loss from the engine oiling system like street rotaries have. As I said this was never a very successful car and the team was very small at the time, very fun crew to hang out with and repairs were often made quickly and updates sometimes involved less than standard procedures as can be seen in the link. I have some pics and stories if anyone is interested (I know it's a bit off topic since this is technically about the concept car)

"At the end of the season, the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) outlawed the use of Wankel-type rotary engines as a way to sway teams to the 3.5L Formula One (F1) engines that had become their preferred platform. The 1991 24 Hours of Le Mans would be the last time the 787B would compete in international motor racing, and the last win for a car with Dunlop tires."
I assume that's only in relation the the 24 hour race then?

You obviously know more about this than me, so I'm just looking for info as I thought they were banned. Feel free to pm me as this is getting fairly off topic.

 

[land sea air]

"At the end of the season, the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) outlawed the use of Wankel-type rotary engines as a way to sway teams to the 3.5L Formula One (F1) engines that had become their preferred platform. The 1991 24 Hours of Le Mans would be the last time the 787B would compete in international motor racing, and the last win for a car with Dunlop tires."
I assume that's only in relation the the 24 hour race then?

You obviously know more about this than me, so I'm just looking for info as I thought they were banned. Feel free to pm me as this is getting fairly off topic.

perhaps this was just for the original Le Mans series then, or just for LMP1 class cars in general. In the US at least, Mazda was allowed to run the wankel in LMP2 with no issue, and only stopped using them because of cost and reliability issues they were having.

 

[Famine]

They weren't technically banned - just heavily legislated against to make them uncompetitive without massive technological leaps.

And the FIA have no say in Le Mans or ALMS - they're run by the ACO - so quite a lot of that article is wrong.

 

[land sea air]

They weren't technically banned - just heavily legislated against to make them uncompetitive without massive technological leaps.

And the FIA have no say in Le Mans or ALMS - they're run by the ACO - so quite a lot of that article is wrong.

thanks for clarifying that

 

[freedomweasel]

They weren't technically banned - just heavily legislated against to make them uncompetitive without massive technological leaps.

And the FIA have no say in Le Mans or ALMS - they're run by the ACO - so quite a lot of that article is wrong.

👍
Thanks.

 

[furai]

There's a YouTube-vid, called Mazda Furai concept extended with sound.
Never heard an engine-sound like that, makes your hair stand straight