What is the Most Overrated Car Of All Time?

mafia_boy
Everytime I read the "WRX is overrated" comment I had to :lol: at it. Over here, the original (circa 1994-95) WRX's were renowned for being stolen by thieves, used for ram raids and getting away from the Police EVERYTIME because they were superior cars, having similar power at the time (155Kw vs 165Kw) and 4WD + 300kg less....the cops had no chance and thieves were getting away with everything.

Over the years however, development of the local offerings, anti-theft technology, government red tape (and whinging by the police :lol: ) caused the V8's to get a lot faster and the WRX's (and ADM Evo's) to be sort of power restricted (to 195Kw compared to 206Kw+ in Japan) and made heavier than their JDM counterparts, but also are a lot harder to steal nowadays too. Now the ball is back in the V8 court.
But it's nothing unusual here, in Australian motorsport there's a little rule in the CAMS (Confederation of Australian Motorsport) handbook that's written in pencil after the Group C/Group A (RX7, Sierra, R32 GTR) eras: "If it's quick and it's V8, RESTRICT OR BAN IT!". :p

As to the topic itself, I'm going sensible with Paulie but I suggest the Nissan Pulsar (Almera/Sentra/Sunny/Primera). Not the GTi-R, that's a decently quick car for it's era, I'm talking about the stock SR20's FWD's (Ti's/SSS's over here) that are stacked full of tryhards thinking their hard, wanting to race anything and losing everytime.
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Pritty sure the Sunny only gets graced with the SR20 when in Pulsar mode. but I could be very wrong. But unfortunatly Apart from the SKylines and the cars of old, eg. s13, s14, s15. and of course said Pulsar. Nissans are a little, well DULL. Anybody want a Micra? lol
 
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Giancarlo
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The 911 is only overrated to people who don't understand what a terrible idea it is to have most of a car's weight behind the rear axle, and what Porsche's engineers had to do to make that car even go straight.

Those cars always have been and always will be one of the great automotive engineering wonders.
 
Keef
The 911 is only overrated to people who don't understand what a terrible idea it is to have most of a car's weight behind the rear axle, and what Porsche's engineers had to do to make that car even go straight.

Those cars always have been and always will be one of the great automotive engineering wonders.
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Cool. Still boring as hell, though.
 
Wow, the fanboyism is strong in this one...

I find it funny that most of these "over rated" claims were done by kids who aren't even old enough to drive, or drive such a pile of crap on wheels that their opinion of what a car should be doesn't even matter.

An over rated car, in case you didn't know, is a car that has received a lot of praise from the press, while not actually being all that great.

The Mazda RX-8, for instance, is an over rated car. The press raved about its handling, it's power delivery, it's styling... But, in truth, the power was nonexistent, the handling marginally interesting if not somewhat boring. And if you don't believe me, drive one. After you've driven a Honda S2000.
 
-Fred-
Wow, the fanboyism is strong in this one...

I find it funny that most of these "over rated" claims were done by kids who aren't even old enough to drive, or drive such a pile of crap on wheels that their opinion of what a car should be doesn't even matter.

An over rated car, in case you didn't know, is a car that has received a lot of praise from the press, while not actually being all that great.

The Mazda RX-8, for instance, is an over rated car. The press raved about its handling, it's power delivery, it's styling... But, in truth, the power was nonexistent, the handling marginally interesting if not somewhat boring. And if you don't believe me, drive one. After you've driven a Honda S2000.
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It's not just the press that can make a car over-rated. Games, films, etc can also.

Just because some members own less desirable cars it doesn't make their opinion any less valid. Or are we being elitist? 'My car is better than yaooo'?
 
No, it's just that when someone who drives, say, a 1.3 Vauxhall Nova, and has actually never driven anything else in his life, claims that, for instance, a Nissan 370Z is over rated... I find it funny.
 
-Fred-
No, it's just that when someone who drives, say, a 1.3 Vauxhall Nova, and has actually never driven anything else in his life, claims that, for instance, a Nissan 370Z is over rated... I find it funny.
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Everyone has an opinion on things. I've never driven a GT-R V-Spec but I think i'm able to suggest safely that it's very over-hyped/over-rated. It lapped a second or so slower than the regular GT-R around Tsukuba, but people are still adamant that it will tear the regular GT-R to pieces in every aspect? Find it strange.

If having an opinion depended on having experience, the world would be a very dull, flat place to enhabit.
 
-Fred-
No, it's just that when someone who drives, say, a 1.3 Vauxhall Nova, and has actually never driven anything else in his life, claims that, for instance, a Nissan 370Z is over rated... I find it funny.
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Then we are two.
 
Imakuni
Everyone has an opinion on things. I've never driven a GT-R V-Spec but I think i'm able to suggest safely that it's very over-hyped/over-rated. It lapped a second or so slower than the regular GT-R around Tsukuba, but people are still adamant that it will tear the regular GT-R to pieces in every aspect? Find it strange.

If having an opinion depended on having experience, the world would be a very dull, flat place to enhabit.
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You should make a trip to the Opinions forum and find out that opinions are meaningless without proof, and generally wrong.
 
lol

It's how it is at GTPlanet.. Everyone needs to voice their opinion about everything, everone quote Top Gear for truth and it's the place where everyone know how cars are. The Megane is crap because they don't like French cars. The FQ-360 Evo is "meh, just an Evo with a big turbo slapped on". And the V-Spec Skyline is crap because some driver drives it slower around some track than some other Skyline. Oh, and every mod is questionable, when it turns out half of the non-crowd drive stock cars.

How cool is it to hear someone driving a rusty piece of crap and only have driven that, saying: "Oh yeah, the Veyron, totally overhyped. Too heavy, you know". It happens around here... :) Or that the "911 doens't have the true spirit of the old days". How would you know if you haven't even had a sit in one?
 
I have one NO-ONE can argue with.

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It's still the Main Stream Media's darling. Innovative (and only kind of) 3 years ago, it's now old news...and the new one doesn't do enough to change that.
 
eiriksmil
How cool is it to hear someone driving a rusty piece of crap and only have driven that, saying: "Oh yeah, the Veyron, totally overhyped. Too heavy, you know". It happens around here... :) Or that the "911 doens't have the true spirit of the old days". How would you know if you haven't even had a sit in one?
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Ghost_drift
Well FWD do naturaly understeer. Even the best of them like the Integra DC 5, Focus ST, and said Megane.
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Anything will understeer if you drive it beyond it's limits. Including F1 cars, WRC cars etc.
 
Jim Prower
I have one NO-ONE can argue with.

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It's still the Main Stream Media's darling. Innovative (and only kind of) 3 years ago, it's now old news...and the new one doesn't do enough to change that.
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I'd choose to disagree on that. Whether or not the performance-oriented folks like it, the car has caused a change in the way people think about buying their cars (and trucks). Toyota developed the technology, made it cheaper, and consequently started a race to the bottom for Hybrid power. I'd generally agree that the car hasn't exactly moved forward enough to remain completely relevant against other Hybrids (the Fusion comes to mind here), but since it was the car to otherwise change the world, I wouldn't call it overrated.
 
eiriksmil
Oh, and every mod is questionable, when it turns out half of the non-crowd drive stock cars.

How cool is it to hear someone driving a rusty piece of crap and only have driven that, saying: "Oh yeah, the Veyron, totally overhyped. Too heavy, you know".
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These two seem to be directed at me, so I'll make my response.

First glitter all over a car seems to be pretty questionable... And stock cars? Not everyone can afford to mod them. Or maybe some people are content at the cars current performance. But this is completely off topic.

I say the Veyron because now every kid thinks its gods gift to everything. Yes its an amazing car and does lots of things right. But it still isn't the fastest like everyone says it is. What people like and don't like has nothing to do with that people drive. Don't accuse people of not liking a car because they drive something rusty. LOOK AT YOUR CAR. My Focus has no rust thank you.
 
Not directed at anyone specific. Didn't even think of you when I wrote it :)

Yeah, my daily is a rusty piece of crap. And you don't see me talking down on cars I've only laid my eyes on. I think Volvo 240s are overrated, because all the local guys here claim they never die and that they are the best cars in the world. They aren't. You know, that's the level I'm on.. When people are starting to talk down on Evos and Boxsters, let alone Enzos and Veyrons, I find it funny.. Especially when they have nothing to back it up with, or any argument that's consistent to the criticism. If the Veyron fanboys claimed it looked good, surely, I can voice my opinion. But what's the fastest car you've been in? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't say "it's not the fastest like everyone says it is" if you got a chance of driving one. I think you'd be amazed.. When someone state something alone the lines of that it's not that fast, and they haven't even felt something remotely powerful, I find it funny. Not knowing anything about you, I'm not directing it at you either.

I'm no fanboy, by no means.. I think supercars seem unusable, because you can only go so fast on the road (and I'd kill myself in a heartbeat in one). Still, you don't see me bashing no supercar :)

You also gotta remember what people like has nothing to do with if they're overhyped or not.. Just sayin' :)
 
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Just because its a super car doesn't make it not over rated... I'm not understanding your logic right now. I say its over rated because everyone where I live and tons 15 year old's on the interwebs claim its the fastest thing on 4 wheels and nothing can ever possibly touch it when that is SOOOO wrong.
 
The problem is, anything, anywhere, has been over-rated by someone in at least some way or form.

From the Ferrari cap-and-jacket crowd booing anyone whose last name is Alonso or Hamilton to the super-Beetle lovers... From Initial D fanboys to the mullet-toting muscle-heads... everyone has their biases.

A car can be overhyped... but does that make it a terrible car? No. Can that GT-R still kick the living crap out of a 911 Turbo? Yup. Can the 911 GT2 kick the living crap out of the GT-R? Yup. Can an AE86 with the fabled Atlantic engine outrun an Evo that's also making twice as much power as stock on the racetrack with similar drivers? Not bloody likely. :lol: (the whole point of Initial D was that the AE86 would get the snot beaten out of it, and then its driver would miraculously out-corner his opponent to win the race... of course, relying on the fact that the downhill nature of the race would make up for his lack of power).

Can the Veyron beat a Zonda on a racetrack? Errh... likely not... but it was never built as a track-car or a sports car... merely as a hyper-luxury car with a ridiculous top-speed.

Oh... and Pulsar SR20s rule! The engines can take 1 milion horsepower!






Too bad the gearboxes can't take much more than 200 hp, though... :lol: (yes, I have had a few SR20s... ridiculously nice engines)
 

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