What kind of engine do you prefer?

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Which of these engines is your favourite?

  • 2.8L Twin Turbo Inline-6 370hp

    Votes: 17 43.6%

  • 3.5L High Revving V6 370hp

    Votes: 10 25.6%

  • 6.0L OHV V8 370hp

    Votes: 12 30.8%
  • Total voters
    39
Yeah, thought so. Dumbarse couldnt drive it though.... Almost stalled it infront of a bus and ended up doing a screechy to get out of the way.... :lol:
 
Originally posted by 12sec. Civic
Well, if that 3.5L had the same Torque/litre as an S2000 it would have 271 ft-lbs. That is alot more than alot of cars I know. People say that Honda engines have no torque because they compare it to the Hp. Compare the S2000's 155TQ to that of any other NA 2.0L You wont get any where near that.
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Of course you won't get anywhere near that. At idle, you'd be 8,000rpm's away from any reasonable amount of torque. ;) It's all nice and dandy that Honda can quote high output levels, but at what cost drivability? In routine traffic, the S2000 is no better than your average econobox. It needs space to stretch the motor (preferably a track). Some people just prefer more power "in any gear, at any revs"....
 
Originally posted by Hooligan


Of course you won't get anywhere near that. At idle, you'd be 8,000rpm's away from any reasonable amount of torque. ;) It's all nice and dandy that Honda can quote high output levels, but at what cost drivability? In routine traffic, the S2000 is no better than your average econobox. It needs space to stretch the motor (preferably a track). Some people just prefer more power "in any gear, at any revs"....
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Heres an S2000 dyno graph here. The torque comes on at 145TQ @ 3,000rpm (remember, this is at the rear wheels) and stays virtually flat with the odd peak and valley.
This dyno is comparing the stock to AEM, but stock is still there.
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Take that and compare it to lets say Nissan's 2.0 which is one of the most powerful 2.0l's in the daily driver run of the mill cars. it has 145hp and everyone says how GOOD the torque is in that motor.

This dyno is of a stock Sentra 2.0L which is always praised for its torque
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Now, I do understand that the S2000 doesnt have much torque for a $50,000 sports car, but it has just as much torque as any engine of the same size. Why would it lose any torque if you think about it?
 
Anyone know or have a link :computer: to explain the actual advantages :thumbsup: & disadvantages :thumbsdow of all these different engines?
 
Originally posted by 12sec. Civic
Now, I do understand that the S2000 doesnt have much torque for a $50,000 sports car, but it has just as much torque as any engine of the same size. Why would it lose any torque if you think about it?
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It doesn't "lose any torque", it's just that puttering aroud town, the S2000 is nothing like it can be on open roads. It feels like nothing special if you're just going to the mall. That torque curve may be flat, but there's not enough momentum in the engine to get things going until 5,000rpm. Compare this to a Cooper S, where you can have an OK time just driving in a parking lot.

I totally respect the S2000. I just feel that it has its limitations (as do all cars), and what I want from an engine/transmission setup is rather...particular.
 
OK, here is what I will say about each engine.

Twin Turbo 6 cyl: Has solid torque all the way through the power band. Needs good traction to be worth having. Definitely a racing engine.

Verdict: Driving enthusiast's engine. Engine for people who like fast cars.

High revving VVT V6: doesnt need great traction, low torque. Good for racing around a course where there isnt much starting and stopping. Truly a race-bred engine, because most race cars have this style of engine. Not a good engine for a heavy vehicle.

Verdict: Race car enthusiast's engine. Engineers and technical wizards will love to marvel and listen to 9,000 rpm symphony.

Large OHV V8: needs good traction due to massive low end torque. Good for getting alot of weight moving. Not good for racing because the power band is set up illogically according to the laws of physics. low end torque and a severe drop in high end output goes against all rules of basic physics of acceleration etc. Great for trucks and for back-country slack jawed yokels to do beer-burnouts with. Also good because they can fool themselves into thinking they have a fast car in the first 2,000rpm, but the fun stops there.

Verdict: Civilian's truck engine. Good for stoplight-stoplight traffic, makes alot of noise, which thrills the teenagers.
 
acctually i would need to no what car it is but i wouldnt go with those go with a 3sgte look it up you'll be happy its a great engine
 
Originally posted by Robin
course its at the cutting edge, its a holden block :)
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my god. those are chevrolet blocks, heads, exhaust, manifolds, injectors, pistons, ETC. engines are all ls1 and ls6 as used in the camaro/trans am/vettes. Holdes makes NO engines itself

Cano

as for the engine, cant beat a torquey V8. it may have 370 hp, but it will have 450 lbft (:
and if you really think that the torque and power from a V8 drops into the power band, you would be surprised not even with new engines, but with yunkyard finds that are rebuilt and give torque at, yeas, 2500, but for the resting 4000 rpm, torque never drops. neither horsepower. and they CAN rev up to 7000. and their power and torque curve willl be even and maybe growing.
 

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