What makes a true simulation?

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With so many cars these days utilising driving aids in real life, how do we best represent this in GT Life?

For instance, I own a Honda S2000 2009 Model Year which has stability management (VSA) which I can turn off and so if I turn it on do I get close in the game? (2009 S2000s are suspended differently to the '06 cars and so there may not be a true copy anyway)

Also, there is that amazing video of the instructor on the 'ring with an M3 in comparison with a lap on GT being identical.

So, do we turn everything "off" to get the feel of a Nissan GT-R or do we turn everything "on" to get the full simulation?

I have rambled a bit but have I made myself clear? lol

Looking forward to the replies.

Take care, Ben
 
Well it's not that easy because i think most people here which are using a steering wheel turn everything off because they can handle the tracktion and so on pretty well. But just imagine you would personally sit in a lamborgini with +400-500 bhp. Could you handle this car without any electronic help?
I would say no for myself. But now imagine the car not only has 400-500 bhp but +900 like the corvette, zonda and all the racer. I would burn the tires completly in the attempt to start driving or i would just start in the second/thrid gear.

If you can say of yourself that you wouldn't need any electronic help in real life the simulation is for you to switch them off. In any other way try to find the best handling for yourself
 
I think the point is that most of us could not do IRL, what we do in GT5, so aids off is a treat, with no real threat to our health. But I guess you are right, that some cars do have the full time nannies, but then again they are specific systems that probably don't act just like PD's ASM.👍
 
But this is kind of my dilemma you see because for me the whole game is about the 'ring and driving standard cars around it.

I have ridden a bike around it (GSX-R 1000 K2) but will be taking my S2000 instead from now on and so enjoy the feel of the standard, Premium cars, S2000 included.

I just would like to know whether, when you have the ASM on, is it the car's own ASM or Gran Turismo's ASM.

To get the feel of a Nissan GT-R, should I turn everything off or do I leave stuff on?

I know I prefer everything off (I use the wheel) but when a 458 Italia has so many different toys, which settings in GT are the true simulation for the Ferrari's "Race Mode" for instance?
 
Probably none of them, I mean the 458 has that Race Launch Control that really gives you a perfect launch every time, GT5 dosn't even make it possible to launch a FR car decent anyway, TCS or not.
 
I'm surprised there isn't an official line on this from the San himself and so if anybody knows of one or can point to one I'd be grateful :-)
 
GT5's ASM and TCS doesn't replicate the true way that ASM/TCS/DSC+T etc performs in real life. So leaving it on in GT5 won't give you the same experience as leaving it on in a real car.
 
Well for me I can't afford racing just now, I'm a uni student. So I use games like GT5 as a racing training tool. For me a simulation is a game that can improve my racing skills in real life. Hence, I opt to turn everything off to make it difficult so I learn smooth control.
 
There have been talks about this since prologue and maybe even GT4.
What I heard over and over again is that all the aids in the game are ADDITIONAL Gran Turismo aids.
So, a car like the R35 GTR which is very much controlled and aided by the computer (and these are aids that make the car faster in real life and you cannot turn them off as they are a part of what makes this car) handles just like that in-game if you turn all the Gran Turismo aids OFF! :)
I don't know if that would also apply to other cars like an S2000 or Ferraris where the aids in real life are there to prevent an average driver from making mistakes and thus actually slow the car down and not like in the GTR are an integral part of that cars construction and make it faster.
 
I drive a MX5 1.8i sport ltd edition and I have tried my hardest to get GT5 to feel the same to no avail. My actual model isn't in the game but I thought I might be able to get GT5 to give me some similarity :( still I love the sim and lapping the ring can't be beat :D

http://www.mx5-mazda.co.uk/sport1.htm

Mines the twilight blue version.
 

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