what should i do?

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Ok here is the story
I was driving my (ex)girlfriends car, we decided to go to taco bell, its minnesota in the winter so there is ice everywhere. we pull into the drive through (her car is a 2001 hyundai ellentra gt 5 door no abs) and i pull into the drive through and hit some ice and slide the car into the curb, ok no problem happens all the time up here, after we break up she calls me on the phone saying i owe them $360 for a new tire and rim. I go to a tech school and am taking mechanics i could have gotten that taken care of for atleast $50. now they are trying to take me to court. the thing is my gf told her parents that she hit the curb when we where going out but we broke up she said i did it because she was angry with me. just some legal advice because its their car is it their choice where they get the work done and who pays or what? right now i am thinking i fix it and thats it but they say the wheel is nonreturnable, not true, i can understand the fact that they needed an allighnment (sp) but i also could have done that for free. also if i do go to court i will be 18 then but at the time of the incedense(sp again im tired) i was 17 if that has anything to do with it then that would be helpfull also.
 
Their car means their responsibility. Legally they have no case, as you didn't deliberately caused the damages.

Like how speeding tickets are the responsibility of the owner of the car - not the driver/speeder in the car.

So don't worry.

Edit: do worry, in the US this is not the case - neon_duke explains it a few posts down.
 
Tell the judge the car was already like that when you borrowed it. Make sure you tell the judge that they wanted money after you broke up with her. Nothing further needs to be said. And, at age 17 you are not responsable for the damages even if you were at fault. Your parents would be responsable for them. Make sure you tell the judge you were 17 at the time.
 
Haha, this is just funny.

Obviously you didn't do it deliberately, you could fix it for $50, and she said you hit the curb because you were angry with her.

Is your ex-girlfriend's family stupid?
 
sn00pie
Their car means their responsibility. Legally they have no case, as you didn't deliberately caused the damages.

Like how speeding tickets are the responsibility of the owner of the car - not the driver/speeder in the car.

So don't worry.
Actually, in the US this is not true. The driver is responsible for tickets and liability damages, not the owner. I've gotten a ticket in the company truck and I had to pay it.

On the subject at hand, there's not much you can do. You can make them sue you, which would be idiotic on their part, because it would cost them $1000 in a lawyer's time in order to win their $360. If they feel like it, they can do that, and they might win. Just because you didn't mean to do it doesn't mean you're not responsible for the damages.

So they've already gotten the car fixed, and they're trying to bill you for $360? I'd tell them you're sorry, you could have had the car repaired satisfactorily for much less than that, and offer to pay half.
 
My first advice to you is never trust legal advice from strangers on the Internet. There is a reason why those blood sucking lawyers make so much money ;)

I will tell you that small claims laws and procedures vary from state to state. More importantly, the ability to collect on a judgement varies from state to state. Usually, it is not hard to get a judgement against someone in small claims, but it can be a real hassle to collect the money.

The best thing to do is become informed about the small claims process in your state and county. Chances are good that it is in your ex's parent's best interest to settle out of court for a fair amount, rather than try to get a judgement and then try to collect. It can be ridiculously easy to be a dead-beat in most states, especially if you have no assets to seize or no wages to garnish.


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yeah i have gotten a speeding ticket in someone's car that wasnt mine and i owned up and paid the $130. also did i mention that she was in the car with me at the time? also with the lawyer fees they could say that i need to pay that too because if i had just paid the 360 they wouldnt have had to pay a lawyer. so i am going to talk to the father today and see if we can get this worked out and i am totally willing to fi the car my self. another thing they said was the place that did the work wont take the wheel back so i am a little wary of gold diggers i also need to see a recipt before i pay anything. i know rims are not cheap but 360 for a rim on a car thats prolly worth about 1500-2000.
 
Well, like said before, that's stupid on their part. Sure, they can sue you, but it may be a tough agrument. You say, it was an accident, and that ice accidents there are normal due to the loaction, right? Usually, if the Judge is a Judy Judge, then sure he/she will understand these types of deals are normal. I have a feeling, you'd win the case anyways. Unles, they lie real well.

Again, let's hope you don't go to court. But if you do, pray the Judge isn't a udy Judge.

That woman is so...what's the word?

Oh well, let's not get off-topic.
 
Which part of my sig? I’m guessing you have no problem with Bomex, you may have a thing with Honda's but I’m guessing that would be wrong, and you don’t have a problem with people looking before they blindly ask a question for the thousandth time, so it becomes apparent that you are a republican, and no I wont change it 1st amendment tells me i can state my views in a peaceful manor. I’m not in your living room with a gun to your head saying if you don’t agree with me then I will squeeze this trigger so either deal with it or ignore me but don’t try to change me.
 
I'd say it would be best to settle up. It was you who dinged the car so it would be right for you to offer to fix it but they might not want to put it in your hands. If that is the case I would not pay the $360, offer half. If it goes to court it seems like you have a bit of an advantage, but you could still end up paying the whole thing.
 
I hit a curb in my car and got a bent rim. I repaired it myself for just $40. I just used a rim from a junkyard and the tire from the bent rim.
 
Last off-topic post, take it as you will:

The Bush/Kerry thing has been beat to death. There are topics for things like that, and it's discourteous to drag that opinion all over the message board with you. I don't stand anywhere on the issue, myself, and I hadn't intended to spark anything by saying what I did. However, trolling as my post may have been, I feel your signature, with huge, bold, "DAMMIT BUSH IS IN OFFICE AGAIN" is just as troll-ish. Politics are an unstable subject anywhere, especially the internet. Having an out in the open and painfully noticeable statement like that in your sig is going to cause problems for you, and most probably lead to more off-topic posts regarding it.

I should have just said that, instead of what I did. I also could have PM'ed you about it, but I opted to be an ass. My apologies.
 
Ok so if I cant state my opinion on the internet then you are saying that all the people who have those bush 04 bumper stickers or the Kerry stickers need to take those off because its all over? If I cant state my opinion here where can I do it, in my head while sitting at home alone? You think that because you have yellow righting under your name doesn’t mean that you can tell me to take it off, it also doesn’t mean that you can tell me what or what not to post because if you could then there would be no internet, there would be no democratic republics in the world, if people could tell some one that their opinion was wrong and tell them to change it then we would be in a communist world. I know that some times you have to do what you are told but not here on the internet, and for sure not over something this stupid and small, I will not change my sig, I will not argue with you on this anymore, and I’m sorry that you feel the need to get your way over something like this, if you don’t like it to bad because it is me and you don’t control it, you also cant tell me what to do and I will not take any of it.
 
I didn't bother reading the rest of your post. Why?
Nissan_Racer
You think that because you have yellow righting under your name
Forget it. I apologized because I assumed you were a rational person, and I was only making a suggestion. If you're going to use my premium status against me, then I can see where you draw your judgements from. I don't see where I was trying to be authoratative in my response, but enjoy your misconception. Premium status means you donated money, it doesn't mean you gain any sort of authority priveleges, and I don't feel like I'm a better person than any non-premium member.

I admitted to being the ass, and I apologized. That apparently wasn't enough.

I apologize to the rest of the members in this thread actually trying to carry on a conversation. I'll be on my way now.
 
Okay everyone, let's not start turning on each other. Aren't we supposed to be on the same team here? Ten, don't leave if you've actually got some advice to give on the topic at hand. Sorry if I jumped on you a bit there, I know it's not really my place to enforce rules.
 
It's cool, Anderton. I was being an idiot.

I was going to think of a solution, but I couldn't come up with anything...but, the oppurtunist jackass I am, I left him a "witty" comment about his sig. Sort of a joke, but it was in bad taste. I deserved the reaction I got. It's all good as far as I'm concerned.
 
This is an international forum so I don't think you are covered by the first amendment. I also think the way you display your opinion is annoying ie. really big font and multiple colors. It jumps off the page, which is kind of annoying but probably what you wanted it to do.

So any updates on the situation? Have you talked with the dad yet?
 
i didnt talk to the dad she got it figured out and now she thinks we are going out now, i dont get it. i tr to tell her but nope she thinks we are gong out, thanks for your help its over no, i hope, no hard feelings ten but im a little stressed out over all and i thought this was aplace that i could have people not ell me what to do or what to change i get that all over the place and i get very ticked by it.
 
It's all good. We aren't trying to tell you what to do. We're just trying to suggest that you be a little more considerate about the way you voice your opinions.

No hard feelings. 👍
 
If it makes you feel any better, the case could get dismissed before anyone ever has to set foot in a courtroom. A while back my mom was being sue'd for a water softener that the previous owners of the house left here. That, in Canadian law, means that it is our property now anyway. If they left it in our basement that means that it belongs to us, unless otherwise stated in the purchase agreements. Anyway, we said sure, pick it up, we don't care, it's a ****ty one anyway. So, they never showed up. We had a plumber come in and take a look at it and said that it wouldn't even be worth hooking up. So....we said, alright let's get rid of it. A dude from the city came by and picked it up, and took it, assumingly, to the dump. 6 myterious months later, we get a notice saying we're being sued for $3200.00 to replace the water softener that we threw out. Uh...dumb people. Anyway, after that we never heard any more from them, and were never subpeona'd to court, so I assumed it was dropped or dismissed.
We had another lawsuit, this time it actually involved me. This was in about grade 6, when me and 3 friends were on patrol at lunch (woot patrollers in G-town). I was at the back end of a line of the 4 of us crossing, when this old lady or guy (we had no idea what...it...was) in a blue Honda CR-V hit my friend, and drove off. Luckily he wasn't hurt, and we got the license plate number. After reporting the incident, the boy who was hit's mother, Peter Traplin (boy) and Krys Rutkowski (mom) said that (shes a lawyer) we would have to spend upwards of 6 hours waiting in court. She said we could be there the entire day and may be called up to the witness stand, give our li'l testimony etc. About 6 months later when we were all in grade 7, we (me, Peter, Jake, Nick) were all called out of our classes and into the office. It was about the case. Apparently the old lady as it turned out, plead guilty to a lesser charge and had to take drivers training over again, and that was all we heard.
My point is, don't get too worked up- if it sounds assanine to you, chances are it will to the judge too, and nothing will happen. It's always good to be prepared though.
 
xcsti
This is an international forum so I don't think you are covered by the first amendment. I also think the way you display your opinion is annoying ie. really big font and multiple colors. It jumps off the page, which is kind of annoying but probably what you wanted it to do.

So any updates on the situation? Have you talked with the dad yet?
He would be under the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution if this incident occurred in Minnesota. He can also look to see what his state constitution says.
 
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