Whats the best way to take the first corner in daytona road course?

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I've had trouble with this corner since the days of GT5 prologue with any car over about 450hp. Right now I'm trying it with an R8 5.2 tuned up to something. I forget how much power but its probably a lot since im wizzing by the opponents on the straights.

So the first corner, when coming up along the bended straight I typically let off the gas and slowly apply the brake when I see the racing line starting to turn red. As I push the brake more and more, the tires squeal, I start to oversteer and spin out.

Maybe some tuning is all I need, but I wonder if there's a technique in driving to help prevent this.
 
I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm no expert (I've never done a real track day) but the art to breaking is doing it in a straight of line as possible.

That said, someone else might have better "expert" advice, but I really like the Daytona Road Course and this is my technique (I drive with a G27 and ABS=0 fyi):

As soon as I hit the start/finish line, I immediately let off the gas and start breaking/shifting down from my max speed I've gained around that final turn. As soon as it "bends" to the left to go off the main track towards that hard left turn, I stop breaking and coast for that breif moment of turning the wheel. As soon as you are straight and your nose is pointed towards that hard left, start breaking hard again and you should be in good shape to let off the breaks and take that corner in 2nd or so. Hope that helps!
 
Light on the throttle, light on the brakes too, but brake from a good distance and stay on the outside line, then slowly move in. It's all I do, and it's never been a problem to me.
 
I've had trouble with this corner since the days of GT5 prologue with any car over about 450hp. Right now I'm trying it with an R8 5.2 tuned up to something. I forget how much power but its probably a lot since im wizzing by the opponents on the straights.

So the first corner, when coming up along the bended straight I typically let off the gas and slowly apply the brake when I see the racing line starting to turn red. As I push the brake more and more, the tires squeal, I start to oversteer and spin out.

Maybe some tuning is all I need, but I wonder if there's a technique in driving to help prevent this.


Maybe try adjusting your brake sensitivity. Because I'm like you, I wait till the line turns red before I hit the breaks and I'm just fine taking that corner.
 
I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm no expert (I've never done a real track day) but the art to breaking is doing it in a straight of line as possible.

That said, someone else might have better "expert" advice, but I really like the Daytona Road Course and this is my technique (I drive with a G27 and ABS=0 fyi):

As soon as I hit the start/finish line, I immediately let off the gas and start breaking/shifting down from my max speed I've gained around that final turn. As soon as it "bends" to the left to go off the main track towards that hard left turn, I stop breaking and coast for that breif moment of turning the wheel. As soon as you are straight and your nose is pointed towards that hard left, start breaking hard again and you should be in good shape to let off the breaks and take that corner in 2nd or so. Hope that helps!

Agree.
1) I would turn off the racing line. Going to be a distraction going forward.

2) It's a suboptimal line, but straighen the corner out and brake very hard in a straight line rather than trying to turn left and brake. You're going to lose the rear every time. So, come off the banking, get the car pointed toward the outside of the turn, break real hard til just before corner entry and then complete the turn as normal.
 
wheel: dfgt
TCS: 5 typically.
ABS: 1

Depending on the car/race might have skid recovery force on. Probably didnt for this, not sure haha.

Next time I hit this track Ill try braking at the start line and see how that works out.
 
Brake in the low camber/flat area, and brake early. I love watching people online wreck on that corner as they pass me in the braking zone :)
 
Brake early and lightly until you pass the apron, then jump on the brakes.

All those tracks where you transition off of banking through a fast or significant turn (Indy Road 1 is similar) requires you to be very careful going across them. Try to avoid having any steering input going across them, or being very gentle and smooth on it. You're probably upsetting the car because you're still driving like you're going for the turn, not driving through it.
 
Here's some advice I use taking that difficult corner.

1. Brake early. This is especially true in higher powered vehicles, and vehicles with the engine situated behind the driver (MR, RR, some 4WD). Don't brake too early either, people can pass you on the inside or outside if you brake too early.

2. Apply brakes with a smooth motion. Sudden braking can upset the vehicle's balance, especially in MR, RR, or some 4WD vehicles. Also, try not to use full braking so you can leave some room for turning and stability.

3. Coasting through the turn after braking, rather than braking then accelerating immediately, is a good strategy some people use. It is a big turn after all (almost a 180).

4. Try not to feather (rapidly tapping) the brakes. This can also upset the vehicle's balance causing understeer.

5. Utilize the straightest possible line when approaching the corner and during the heavy braking zone.

6. This corner is a decreasing radius corner. Try using a later apex (later clipping point) by setting yourself up wider than normal. But be careful not to go too wide, or you'll encounter run-off or understeer.

7. When accelerating out of the corner, you'll need precise throttle control and steering response. Applying too much can lead to understeer (FR, some 4WD), or oversteer (FR, MR, RR, some 4WD). TCS and Force Grip Recovery (FGR) help in this department if you are having trouble with accelerating. I use neither when possible. You'll also hit those two consecutive sweepers right after that turn, follwed by a hairpin turn. So precision is still a huge part of turn 1 that affects the angle in which you take the sweepers (not officially turns) and the hairpin (turn 2).

8. You can try setting the brake balancer a little weaker in the rear. This may prevent most vehicles from fishtailing out under heavy braking into a corner. A good course to test this is at the High Speed Ring.

9. Downforce may be you biggest ally here. But remember, this is also a high speed course, so too much could be a bad thing.

10. Suspension should be set to moderately stiff to stiff. It is a fairly smooth track. Tire selection also makes a huge impact on cornering and braking.

11. This corner should be taken at 2nd or 3rd gear, depending on how many gears your vehicle has and their ratios. Try to keep the revs within the vehicle's powerband.



Note: I would've also suggested buying racing brakes, but they are mysteriously missing form the Tune Shop (upgrade shop).

I've watched so many people (alot more than none) lock up their brakes, understeer severely, spin out, or just plain missed the braking zone while playing online.
 
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Dive in too deeply with too much speed after missing the braking spot, slamming the brakes until they glow like a firefly and...pray ;)

Other than this, stupidstormy has a nice and accurate description 👍
 
I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm no expert (I've never done a real track day) but the art to breaking is doing it in a straight of line as possible.

That said, someone else might have better "expert" advice, but I really like the Daytona Road Course and this is my technique (I drive with a G27 and ABS=0 fyi):

As soon as I hit the start/finish line, I immediately let off the gas and start breaking/shifting down from my max speed I've gained around that final turn. As soon as it "bends" to the left to go off the main track towards that hard left turn, I stop breaking and coast for that breif moment of turning the wheel. As soon as you are straight and your nose is pointed towards that hard left, start breaking hard again and you should be in good shape to let off the breaks and take that corner in 2nd or so. Hope that helps!

This is a pretty good method to try.

Also, you can take a late apex off the straight by staying near the wall and have decent speed at the transition to that corner. It straightens out your line entering that corner and gives you a nice area to brake hard just before corner entry.
 
I love the road track at Daytona and I find it hilarious too when people completely miss that turn online.
 
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