What's the Longest You've Spent Working On a Single Tune?

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I've had a few cars that just seemed to refuse to conform to what should normally make them behave. Cars like that can send me for a loop sometimes, even to the point of starting over completely from scratch. Just curious as to how long some of the tuners around here have spent on a single car, getting it just where they wanted it.
 
Six hours, then again I rarely declare any of my tunes final... they just get close enough to good that I move on to the next one.
 
Impreza 22B. still working on it now, have done since GT5 launched and in GT4. it works pretty well as is, but i just know it has more to give.........restarted many times!

but just love the Scoobies
 
My average is around 6 to 8 hours, but sometimes I made it in less (the well-aclaimed Abt was made under 3 hours, so I'm still surprised about all the "cheers" I get from this one).

The longest in GT5 was 15-18 hours (restarted 3 times - the Stingray - or the ZZII, restarted aswell). In GT4 it was 2 full days with a Speed 12, so about the same.

I'd rather count in kilometers : average is 800km, sometimes lots more, sometimes lots less.
 
I spent two weeks on the r10 tdi before I allowed myself to post it. But, I'm still working on it because I'm not happy enough with it. I get good reviews on it, but its the only car I've tuned that I know can be better. One day ill get it.
 
Just getting the feel for the stock car and getting consistent lap times on the chosen test track can take hours...
 
Threads like this are what frighten the average person from learning how to tune. How much faster is your car after 6 hours of tuning than it was after the first hour? Really?
 
Motor City Hami
Threads like this are what frighten the average person from learning how to tune. How much faster is your car after 6 hours of tuning than it was after the first hour? Really?
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I didn't know they were frightened. Are you sure this is a serious issue?



And I've went back to stock and been faster before, and not just with my own tunes... :O


For me though, it's just all about getting the car to handle like I want it to. I tune to have an enjoyable driving experience first and competing comes a VERY close but nonetheless 2nd.
 
took me a little over 2 hours to get my tune to run 2 seconds less in my Evolution VII and it's still not 100% finished. :sick:
 
The Motor Sport Elise, had to develop 2 tunes for it because the difference is so severe between offline and online.

Spent Hours with the online tune, the car should on paper be the fastest elise in the game but I only just keeps up with the 96 RM elise.

It has exhausted me and I will never officially post a tune for it, I cant get it how I want it to drive, no front downforce is a major problem also.

If anyone can do better than I have with this greasy pig of a car then please by all means post your tune, for once Id be glad to be bettered tuning wise lol
 
I'm telling you... frustrating little car that looks so cool. I found another one in the UCD that I'm NOT doing weight reduction on. I'll see what that does for it. Ahh, I need to get some work done. I'll try your tune tonight Mike.
 
Cool, let me know mate.
The online tune understeers a little but the back end is planted so a worthy compromise I think
 
GT-R Proto......bordering on 3 years.
SRT-4.........over 5 years.

Most others I've spent about a week or two (at an hour a day) before I'm satisfied....with GT5 it's been even worse as I'm being a perfectionist so most have copped a months worth of testing (at that hour per day rate) on their own. I'm not rushing anything but the end result will be worth it.
 
about 150 hours on my fastest solo NASCAR Daytona setup and over 300 on my endurance setup testing/tuning it, also I average 8 to 24 hours on my 550PP 5 speed (6 speed) Nurburg setups.
 
I think some of you guys need to compare the ratio between number of tenths of a second gained over the number of hours commited to the tune. Some of you are into 3+weeks for an addition 0.001 seconds.
 
Motor City Hami
I think some of you guys need to compare the ratio between number of tenths of a second gained over the number of hours commited to the tune. Some of you are into 3+weeks for an addition 0.001 seconds.
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Sometimes, I think (with my few weeks/days/hours of tuning knowledge) it's more about getting the 'feel' of the thing correct rather than just trimming a few more nanoseconds off your laptime…

I could be wrong though, maybe tuners just suffer from OCD and demands perfection, who knows what goes through their minds…
 
Motor City Hami
Threads like this are what frighten the average person from learning how to tune. How much faster is your car after 6 hours of tuning than it was after the first hour? Really?
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Rotary Junkie
4 years. RX-7 Spirit R.

And not because I can't make it good... But because I always want it better. :D
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I agree with both of the above.

Generally, why spend so much time fo an extra few tengths - but if there's a car which is personal to me for some reason, then yes, I will not stop trying things to make it ever better, even if it takes me months or is continuously evolving.

But there's no way I'm doing that with all the 100+ (got no idea how many) cars I race with, simply don't have the time.

Generally, get the car balanced, feeling good, tyre wear sorted and a reasonable (but more importantly for me - CONSISTENT) lap time then just go and have fun racing - my "special" cars, completely different story.

General tunes take about 30-60 mins, sometimes a wee bit longer and sometimes alot less.
 
I can get most cars within a second of their potential for me in 15 minutes or less, but that only comes because I've spent quite some time tuning and know what works for me and what doesn't. After that it's tweaking for different tracks and corners or working out annoying little tendencies, fine tuning etc. Of course some cars require more time than that, and some you get pretty close to right in the first shot. And the ones I choose to tweak over and over are generally the fastest cars, the race winners.

I also give up on a lot of cars in 15 minutes as well. I know what the winning laptimes are with a lot of tire/pp combinations so if I take a car out and it handles well but is 2-3 seconds off the pace, it goes to the back of the garage. I'd suggest keeping track of your good laptimes at different track/tire combinations so you don't waste time tuning a car that's way off the pace, unless you're just tuning for the fun of the ride sort of thing.

One thing I would suggest is signing up for a series of some kind or a club where they race street cars on SS tires or lower. You'll learn a lot from tweaking one or a few cars over and over for different tracks within a series or club and some of the guys are pretty helpful and will give you lots of good tuning tips.
 
madmike1986
The Motor Sport Elise, had to develop 2 tunes for it because the difference is so severe between offline and online.

Spent Hours with the online tune, the car should on paper be the fastest elise in the game but I only just keeps up with the 96 RM elise.

It has exhausted me and I will never officially post a tune for it, I cant get it how I want it to drive, no front downforce is a major problem also.

If anyone can do better than I have with this greasy pig of a car then please by all means post your tune, for once Id be glad to be bettered tuning wise lol
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I just made one of these cars recently and it is very fast, it's in my garage if you want to see my setup.

For me the longest car ever was the Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640 2009. This thing to work on all tracks is a nightmare. The tune is so different than anything else. It took me like a whole week of trying small changes, but everything I did would be good for one track and bad on another. The day I solved it was the best ever. I love the car so much, much more than the SV and every time I drive it, it never fails to impress. Most cars you can drive it stock and say ok it has understeer I do this and this to get rid of it, it has too much acceleration I need to change these settings. After a few attempts you should have a car that's much better than the stock version.
 
On some cars I might make minor changes to them each time I drive them but I am only driving it because I like the car so much. My tune of Ferrari Scuderia 430 is like this. It's not a heavily modified car but the setup was a masterpiece of precision.

It's cars that I might spend 12+ hours on and get nowhere with that is really frustrating. Cars like Shelby GT350R, TVR Speed6 and Cizeta V16.
 
Motor City Hami
I think some of you guys need to compare the ratio between number of tenths of a second gained over the number of hours commited to the tune. Some of you are into 3+weeks for an addition 0.001 seconds.
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Because "This is a mediocre tune, I didn't want to waste more than 30 minutes on it, but it's better than stock." isn't the manifesto any tuner should be building their garage on.

Maybe that was fine a year ago, when people just wanted to 'get started' the game was new, and people just wanted improvements over the default setup so they could go faster. But now, any tuner whose goal is simply to be 'better than default' is not only wasting their time, but every person's time who ever tries that tune.

But that's just my .02
This isn't directed specifically at you Hami, just in general.
 
Motor your right, especially Daytona running NASCARs. every month or 2 id shave off about a tenth or less. In Jan. I ran 42 flats, Feb I was running 41.9s, by march I was 41.8s mayb high .7s, by may early june I was running high 41.6s, july I cracked a high 41.5 and by mid september I can run consistent 41.550 to 41.610 for 30 laps hard. With a best solo lap of 41.530. so in 9 months I shaved off nearly a half a second. Not to great but hey for a controller that solo can run faster then anyone with a wheel that I know of, I shud be proud. And I do have OCD, but its little real life things such as cell phone, cigs even my lighter go in certain pants pockets, if one isint there I freak out.
 
oh man i never stop tuning my gtr r32 defiantly my favorite car. and my buddy made a custom track and so never stop trying to shorten my time. every time he gets close i shave of another tenth of a second. he will never stop GODZILLA! :)
 
Master_gamer438
Motor your right, especially Daytona running NASCARs. every month or 2 id shave off about a tenth or less. In Jan. I ran 42 flats, Feb I was running 41.9s, by march I was 41.8s mayb high .7s, by may early june I was running high 41.6s, july I cracked a high 41.5 and by mid september I can run consistent 41.550 to 41.610 for 30 laps hard. With a best solo lap of 41.530. so in 9 months I shaved off nearly a half a second. Not to great but hey for a controller that solo can run faster then anyone with a wheel that I know of, I shud be proud. And I do have OCD, but its little real life things such as cell phone, cigs even my lighter go in certain pants pockets, if one isint there I freak out.
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Sorry to rain on your parade there herbie, but your not the only one that fast. My solo times are right there with yours. And just fyi, I too have been running 50+ laps since April or so, way back when only a few of us could do it, back when I used to run with the USS team. So, you shouldn't pat yourself on the back too much, your not the only one with those achievements.
 
Im aware, when I said 'anyone with a wheel that I know of' it was meant on my friends list or who ive actually raced against, tuned with. One guy on a wheel came close, there are a few that can run solo range times, but I have yet to see a wheel user break a .550, not saying it cant be done, just saying I havent seen it, just hear about it, i know about 6 guys that can break .600, but they all have wheels and run my setup, except one runs my 2 speed, everyone else runs the 3 speed
 
Sorry for double post, but car you know how it goes online wheel vs. DS3 arguments, few DS3 users can hold a line extremely well, but to say i cant pat myself on the back cuz im fast and if your on a wheel imagine my line, alot of wheel guys prefer to push me. So I will double pat myself on the back
 
If I ever stopped tuning, I'd stop learning. 💡

I've been tuning SuperGT GTR's for about 5 months now, and the same as always, I believe it's better then ever. (been saying that for months)

But then I tweak any car I'm driving for every single track I drive, too. ;) One size fits all tunes don't fit me at all, I'm way to picky for that.:lol:
 
Master_gamer438
Sorry for double post, but car you know how it goes online wheel vs. DS3 arguments, few DS3 users can hold a line extremely well, but to say i cant pat myself on the back cuz im fast and if your on a wheel imagine my line, alot of wheel guys prefer to push me. So I will double pat myself on the back
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Never said you couldn't pat yourself on the back bro, just said I wouldn't do it too much as you ARE NOT the fastest out there. Not saying I am either. As you should know, solo speed alone isn't gonna guarantee you wins at Daytona all the time. Sure, it helps, but its not the end all, be all. I too used to run on a controller and was fast, just ask the USS guys, they'll tell ya. Anyways, congrats for being that quick with a controller, agreed, not many people can even hold a good line with one, let alone be fast. On topic tho, the tune I used to finiish 27th in the NASCAR TT took me about 4 hours to tweak.
 

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