whats will b better fr my integra gs-R supercharger or turbochrger

[-Fred-]

Originally posted by darknite_23
i also have under drive pulleys,performace pistons and i dont know if you get hp when you upgrade your tranny butt im pretty sure it does

underdrive pulleys, pistons, intake, exhaust and header... let's see...

got any dyno graph you could post? i'm sceptic about the 203 @ the wheels...


if you're pushing that much with that little, i could use your help. with all the mods i've got, i'm still putting under 300...

 

[darknite_23]

hey punk rock wat car you got and if yu got any mods name em.

 

[-Fred-]

Originally posted by darknite_23
hey punk rock wat car you got and if yu got any mods name em.

nothing too special... most parts were bought off a wrecked Civic with the same engine setup...

1991 Acura Integra RS

-LS/VTEC Frankeinstein swap (B18B bottom, B18C head)
-Mitsubishi TD05-14B Turbocharger
-Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
-Custom fabricated exhaust manifold
-JE Pistons
-Crower Rods
-Apex'i V-AFC
-Custom Grind stock cams (done by a local speedshop owner)
-Hondata 2B ECU (in the mail, should be here soon)
-AEM Cam Gears
-HKS Blow Off Valve
-HKS 40mm wastegate
-RC 440cc injectors
-Apex'i Exhaust of some kind... (i think World Sport)
-ACT Race Clutch
-Fidanza Flywheel
-Kaaz LSD
-Koni Yellows/Eibach Springs
-15'' Yokohama A520 w 15'' Integra GS-R 6 spoke wheels
-2x 14'' BFGoodrich G-Force Drag Radials w/ 2 14'' stock steelies
-Sparco Speed Seat
-Momo Steering wheel
-Autometer Tach
-Autometer Boost Gauge
-Stripped interior


i've spent less than 8k on parts... current 1/4mile time is 13.98 @ 99 mph, while boosting 7psi.

hopefully i'll be deep in the 12s by the end of the summer. more boost, tougher engine, more power!!

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by PunkRock
-Turbo is off a 1992 Eagle Talon TSi (i have no clue what the name of it is, it's made by Mitsubishi, though)

Mitsubishi TD05-14B

 

[-Fred-]

thanks, Mr.Knowitall!

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by PunkRock
thanks, Mr.Knowitall!

Heh, no prob.

I wouldn't have known that had I not went through a stage when I wanted a 1st gen DSM(preferably a 1991 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD). I wanted one because my friend Brett had one, and it was rediculously focking fast(after the TD05-20G was installed, of course)...especially from a stop. 350+ awhp owns...

 

[-Fred-]

hell yeah! friend of mine had one, a 93. he'd whoop on pretty much everything in the streets! wrecked it hard, and now he drives a silver WRX... which is still bone stock, but not for too long.


mmm, 20G... now that's a cheap and potent upgrade i'll have to look into!

 

[darknite_23]

im also thinkin bout puttng a type-r head of the engine in my gsr but what will that help if any one now cause i have like5 days to tell my freind ifi want it

 

[risingson77]

The ITR head has hand-ported valves and more aggressive cams than the GS-R. So it should net you a few more horses immediately and bring greater power making potential.

 

[boostcreep]

Originally posted by PunkRock
nothing too special... most parts were bought off a wrecked Civic with the same engine setup...

1991 Acura Integra RS

-LS/VTEC Frankeinstein swap (B18B bottom, B18C head)
-Mitsubishi TD05-14B Turbocharger
-Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
-Custom fabricated exhaust manifold
-JE Pistons
-Crower Rods
-Apex'i V-AFC
-Custom Grind stock cams (done by a local speedshop owner)
-Hondata 2B ECU (in the mail, should be here soon)
-AEM Cam Gears
-HKS Blow Off Valve
-HKS 40mm wastegate
-RC 440cc injectors
-Apex'i Exhaust of some kind... (i think World Sport)
-ACT Race Clutch
-Fidanza Flywheel
-Kaaz LSD
-Koni Yellows/Eibach Springs
-15'' Yokohama A520 w 15'' Integra GS-R 6 spoke wheels
-2x 14'' BFGoodrich G-Force Drag Radials w/ 2 14'' stock steelies
-Sparco Speed Seat
-Momo Steering wheel
-Autometer Tach
-Autometer Boost Gauge
-Stripped interior


i've spent less than 8k on parts... current 1/4mile time is 13.98 @ 99 mph, while boosting 7psi.

hopefully i'll be deep in the 12s by the end of the summer. more boost, tougher engine, more power!!

Hey man, I'm pretty impressed, especially for another Honda. I had no idea you drove a honda... but the new avatar is pretty. But isn't the B18B/B18C combo known for overheating, or is that the "mini me" swap?

But I'm still VERY curious about darknite's car... darknite, are you sure that was an at-the-crank number?

edit:::: It's the mini me swap... my bad. Turns out that swap is just nice for torque but thats a relative term in honda-land....

 

[darknite_23]

so should i get the type - r head

 

[risingson77]

How much does your friend want for the head?

 

[darknite_23]

1.5k

 

[darknite_23]

about many horse am i gonna have after the type - r head if any one knows tell me cause i dontknow. I dont know what to put in first
turbocharger or type - R head ican aford both but i wont have both at the sametime till like april so what should do?

 

[risingson77]

$1500?! I hope that's Australian dollars...

If that's how much he wants, I'd say ferget it. I'm sure you could port your GS-R head and get some nice turbo cams for less than that.

Punk?

 

[-Fred-]

power gains with the Type-R head? mmm... i'm not sure. It won't make that much of a difference, if you already have a GS-R engine.

save that money, 1500$ is too much for the head only, and spend it on a nice turbo kit, or a set of coilovers and some nice wheel/tire combo.

 

[darknite_23]

how much do you tink the type-R head i should give him cause i dont wanna get rpped off

 

[-Fred-]

600-700$, maybe?

 

[boostcreep]

Originally posted by PunkRock
save that money, 1500$ is too much for the head only, and spend it on a nice turbo kit, or a set of coilovers and some nice wheel/tire combo.

 

[KikoSanchez]

considering you already have a vtec head, its not worth your money to get the b18c5 head. the point of the frankenstein combo is to have a non vtec bottom end and vtec head.
id say definetly get a turbo kit with your money.
or just get a focking DSM or sr20 powered car(nx2k, classic se-r) and do better with your money

 

[KikoSanchez]

oh yah btw go turbo

ive seen a civic si making 270hp on a vortech supercharger run 14s. it peaked VERY high and didnt make squat down low.

id say go turbo definetly

 

[Night_Drifter]

hey man, well my cuzz have a 6 thousand engine, have youy heard of LS Vtec, its the fastest of GSR and Type R, it will cost like a lot, simply get a LS block and then get a B16 head and you get LS vtec, you will hit around 14 straight will all motor

 

[KikoSanchez]

yah but it costs a bit and ive heard can be unreliable. I mean you cant just slap a vtec head on an ls bottom. You have to tap and drill oil lines, etc

heres a good source too see whats involved:

http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0104it_frankenstein/

 

[darknite_23]

hey thanx alot for the info the turbocharger is gettng installed its at the shop i also put in new greddy headers well i hope the torbocharger is worth my buck well ill post the stats when i ge it back(man i cant wait to tear up the streets) oh yah now have another question my dad just baught a 96 toyota supra tt ad i was wondring if any body knew any real good mods for it besides
the basics intake,heder,exhaust system,and turbo charger cause i think im gin o get that car from my dad he just bought it yesterday at an auction fr 15k needs body work but thats what my dad does for a livinghe has hisow buisness so if ay one knows help a mexcan out hahhhaahhahaha

 

[darknite_23]

hey thanx alot for the info the turbocharger is gettng installed its at the shop i also put in new greddy headers well i hope the torbocharger is worth my buck well ill post the stats when i ge it back(man i cant wait to tear up the streets) oh yah now have another question my dad just baught a 96 toyota supra tt ad i was wondring if any body knew any real good mods for it besides
the basics intake,heder,exhaust system,and turbo charger cause i think im gin o get that car from my dad he just bought it yesterday at an auction fr 15k needs body work but thats what my dad does for a livinghe has hisow buisness so if ay one knows help a mexcan out hahhhaahhahaha

 

[KikoSanchez]

err im kinda confused on your buying new greddy 'headers', b/c with a turbo you can only have a turbo manifold instead of the regular 'header'.
anyways, for the supra i'd just say do basic mods and get a boost controller and up the boost a bit, a bigger exhaust/downpipe, and maybe some more aggressive cams. I dont know that much specifically about the supra tt 2jz but I do know that just those few mods should net you a large power gain.

 

[DrIft ProJeCt R]

what are u going to use the integra for?

 

[ShobThaBob]

Uhm...this thread is older than you.

 

[12sec. Civic]

If you can afford a turbo get it. Supercharger is much cheaper. How much power increase are you hoping for. You wont have much traction in that FWD.

 

[boostcreep]

Wow this is one old thread. Reading it again, I doubt this kid was even telling the truth. not to be skeptical, but he didn't really know what he was talking about.