What's your best 400m and Top Speed?

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Hey everybody,

Let's get in another big arguement about NOS in GT4 and then tell everybody else to **** a dingo....




Shaaatup! :yuck:

If you don't like NOS there is nobody FORCING you to use it, I personally think it's great... If GT4 had "warpspeed" NOS effects like NFSU well THEN THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM.. But if it makes your car faster without looking cheesy why not?

Makes sense to me.

Oh, what am I saying, now you guys are going to argue some more :dunce:
 
I can't post pictures because I don't have a USB pen.... :( Also my game is chinese and there's still lots of things I don't know of. For example I heard you can import credits/points from gt3,gt4 prologue, gt concepts..... ??

Also wings on FF cars is a perfectly logical thing. An FF car has its engine in the front so usually it has much more weight in the front wheels than in the rears, this is good for traction but for cornering you also need rear wheel grip, so wings are used for this matter.
It also stabilizes the car at high speeds. And do you think wings are there for regulations and the car would be faster without them??? ( on the integra ). LOL
 
AdrenalineSRX
*rolls eyes*

Hey everybody,

Let's get in another big arguement about NOS in GT4 and then tell everybody else to **** a dingo....
Shaaatup! :yuck:

If you don't like NOS there is nobody FORCING you to use it, I personally think it's great... If GT4 had "warpspeed" NOS effects like NFSU well THEN THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM.. But if it makes your car faster without looking cheesy why not?

Makes sense to me.

Oh, what am I saying, now you guys are going to argue some more :dunce:
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Read my posts, i will not use them. And stop making fights.
The problem with NOS is, u can use it in every race, and the AI doesn't use it, never.
And I was not telling everyone to go **** a dingo, only that australian guy, who was flaming me for no reason.

Shut up
 
to come back to what Famine said, I think they do use Nitrous Oxide in real racing. I remember hearing about a series called Formula Palmer Audi (open wheeler racing, bit like f3 scale) and I think each driver was allowed to use three shots of Nitrous in a race. I heard it actually made for some pretty good racing 👍.

I think if some of the AI used NOS for the tuner car races or some of the street races where that race series or race was desingated that they use NOS, the it'd be quite good, more of a race of tactics. But the fact that only you can use NOS seems pointless to me as...well I'd only use it to achieve fast single lap times.
So what I'mtrynig to say is..my view of it in the GT4 is, if the AI could use it as well then I think it would be well worth it, but the fact that only you can use it just seems pointless to me. But anyway that's my opinion and evryone use it as you will.
Also going on the issue of the wings, kinda dissapointed they only allowed you to add rear wings on cars. Kinda hoped you could do other things as well...meh.

2 things:
How many times can you use NOS in a race?
Just a quick random question, there's still qualifying isn't there before each race?
 
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speaking of top speed...if anyone remembers the wheelie trick that you could do in GT3 where you could go 1000+MPH...is that trick possible still on GT4?
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...is this possible...anyone?????
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*hears birds chirping instead of an answer*
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*sigh* we could talk about that, even if no one has even ATTEMPTED IT:grumpy:

...maybe even if someone 💡 wants to try it?! :)
 
Look every body how stupid can you get thinking that front wheel drive cars dont need rear wings. Its absolutely absurb. Ofcourse they need rear wings to be stable at high speeds and to go through corners smoothly to keep the rear tires in line.People can get standard Type-Rs side ways so now imagine a 400hp front wheel drive car.
 
kensei
It can't hang with the R8, Speed 8, BMW v12 or Pescarolo...it is about 200ps (hp) down on power, though i find it one of the more enjoyable LMP cars to drive.
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really?
Is it the power before or after tuning?
Because this Mercedes has in life nearly the same power as the GT-one or the BMW V12 LMR since they were all in the '99 Le Mans edition....

Is the Sauber C9 really the fastest car at Le Mans,? If it is, the 905 will be very very fast I think... :) :sly:
 
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*sigh* we could talk about that, even if no one has even ATTEMPTED IT:grumpy:

...maybe even if someone 💡 wants to try it?! :)
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I think it's possible. I think i saw a picture of a gt-one but I can not remember where :dunce:
 
And do you think wings are there for regulations and the car would be faster without them??? ( on the integra ). LOL



No, I was just asking a damn question about if they needed it or not. Never said anything about it being faster w/o the wing.

For the topic at hand, I don't have GT4 yet, but on GT3 I managed 270.9 mph in a tuned Dodge Viper GTS. Don't know how that ranks, never checked any top speed forums or anything.
 
lnasphinx
with dodge?
can you post the settings you used?
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Suspension Kit - Semi-Racing
Ride Height= 98mm in front and rear
Shock Absorbers= Level 5 front and rear
Camber Angle 1.0 front, 0.5 rear
Stablizers Level 3 frant and rear

Racing Muffler
Sports Computer
Stage 3 NA Tune-up
Port Polish
Engine Balancing

Full Racing Transmission - Auto Setting 44
Triple Plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
Super-slick (T2) tires
Stage 3 Lightweight
ASM abd TCS off

Got lucky coming out of the turn, didn't slide too much, scrubbing off speed. Used a Dual Shock 2 controller, don't have a wheel.

The car has quite a few miles on it now, over 1000, I think. Still has 1062 HP even after all the mileage.

I think I could get it a little faster, if I played with the settings a little more, or maybe lowered more with a racing suspension kit.

So, other than putting a crapload of parts on it, and screwing with the gear ratios, I didn't play with it too much to hit 270.9 mph. Still had some revs left before it topped out too.

I assume you were asking me, anyway.

Sucks on road/street curcuits with all the power. For races, I usually removed the Stage 3 tune up.
 
kensei
N20 in a RUF...uggh!

(walks away shaking his head crying)
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To be honest, there were serious over the top Porsches with N2O WAAAAAAY before Fast and the Furious...

I've personally drooled over a superspec Porsche (completely custom no holds barred, a bunch of different engine blocks for different classes etc etc, more extreme than most RUF has done), it had around 600bhp, and was equipped with nitrous oxide.

It was an all out perfomance racing car, no "ricer", an expression I'm sure didn't even exist back then.

When I say drooled over I mean I sat in it etc... I was about 12 though, so no testdrive hehe... Since I'm 25 now it was a while ago and certainly shoots the concept the N2O is a posers util down quite effectively no?

When I say it was N2O equipped I don't mean to say it was used much at all in actual racing though, probably forbidden even back then in most classes and not very useful in a longer race anyway... but it wasn't there to make cool puffs or impress 2F2F kids. For eg. dragraces I'm sure it was useful (this one Porsche was very customizable and could be configured for most kinds of races actually... I don't remember the top speed they'd clocked, but it was DAMN fast, acceleration like mad even from 300km/h and upwards).

All that said, I don't actually mean to say I'm much for n2o myself, I wouldn't consider wasting any money on it were I building a race-esque car... but most people connect it with 2F2F, NFS-UG etc, it WAS around way before that is all I'm saying. And since it doesn't cost me any reallife money in GT4 and doesn't effect weight (or have they implemented weight on engine parts in GT4???) I'll probably equip my cars with it when I've finished tuning them... who knows, maybe I'll save a ****up in a race and avoid having to lose to some rival :)
 
Pmental is correct, N20 is and has been used in drag racing for over 2 decades, and is used to help spool up large turbos on small engines. People think that because they first saw heard about N20 on FF 2F2F etc that they came up with the idea, the whole streaching the car bull****, if u cant see past that then its ur prob not PD's

If N20 didnt take up such a large space dont u think most race teams would be using it all the time? i mean when u have come to the limits of ur engine package (i.e turbo as large as possible to give the engine a decent power band but u still want need more power with out the extra lag of larger turbo, things like N20, water methanol injection and running on stright meth are the answer
 
kensei
It can't hang with the R8, Speed 8, BMW v12 or Pescarolo...it is about 200ps (hp) down on power, though i find it one of the more enjoyable LMP cars to drive.
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Hi Kensei, I'm a little bit surprised about that.....but we may not talk about the same car. I had the Mac Laren F1 GTR (#42, Le Mans 1997) in mind. Compared to the nissan R390 GT1, it has the same torque (72 kgf.m) The power is not mentioned, but I would suppose around 600hP, like the average LMP. (the R390 is 650hp for comparison).
So is it really the car you're talking about, or were you talking about the BMW M3 GTR race car (450 hp) ? I would really find suprising such a big difference of 200hp beetween the Mac laren and other LMP.

Another LMP I'm courious about is the Mercedes CLK GTR (1998). Is it good ? I would have appreciated the inclusion of the 1999 CLR (the car that flew like a plane in 1999 Le mans 24h), but it doesn't seem to be in the game.

About the M3 GTR race car, is it fun to drive ? how efficient ?

bye,

snypa
 
Double_R
498 km/h top speed in gt3 using the lotus esprite. Only has 1001bhp but the shape as very little air drag.
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Are you sure?
Last night I've tried with Esprit, I've reached "only" 430 Km/h...
Maybe You're wrong, my max speed in GT3 was with Escudo (1800 bhp), only 480,1 bhp.... Settings?
 
wings make sense on FF race cars, INFACT, in some cases, MORE SO THEN RWD!

Before you start slapping away a reply, shut up and keep reading.

First of all, myth number one: spoilers should be put over the drive wheels, to maximize traction under acceleration. This is utterly false. Few, if any, production cars have enough power to cause the wheels to spin, when traveling at a speed that causes the wing to have any effect at all.

Everyone can agree that FWD cars generally have a problem with understeer. The extra weight in the front, and the fact that the front tires do all the work, causes the front tires to loose traction first. This is understeer.

To FIX this problem, a front wheel drive race car has a huge amount of "mechanical oversteer" dialed into it. Giant rear sway bars, 1500lb+ rear springs, toe out, different tire pressures, etc. This all causes the car to rotate easier, and exibit oversteer - sometimes, massive oversteer.

This is great for an autocross car, or a car that races on a very tight, twisty course. The problem is that at 100mph, you don't want a car that is so twitchy that the back end is constantly on the verge of comming around. At high speeds, you want the car to become more neutral. SOOO... you add "Aerodynamic understeer" - increase traction in the back with a spoiler, so that the faster you go, the more planted the rear gets. A wing doesn't do anything at slower speeds (which is why I don't really understand speed activated spoilers, other then for looks)

Even though the average FF car understeers pretty strongly in its stock configuration, a properly tuned suspension will have the back end coming around very easily.

To sum it up:

Mechanical oversteer + aerodynamic understeer = easy to get excessive rotation in the tight stuff, and a safe, reliable, neutral car in the high speed sweepers.
 

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