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Hello!

(If there is any thread like this, I did not find one)
I have played GT5 since 2010, when it came out, with DS3 and on a 20-year-old Fat(not Flat)screen... Now after enjoying GT5 for a long time, I want to change to a new Flat and I want to use a wheel for upcoming GT6...

Now I want to know, which wheel you would recommend, its price (maybe in Euros? :nervous: ), its quality and if it is worth its price... a clutch would be nice, but isn't a must have if too expensive...

Ah, and how is a normal wheel ( Like DFGT or G27 mounted without a seat? On a table ( :crazy:?) or does it have its own base? is it easy to de-mount if not needed?

Thanks for all the answers :)👍 :cheers:

EDIT: found out about the mounted thing:)
 
I don't have too much experience with wheels - I only know the DFGT, G25 and my current setup, the Fanatec CSR Wheel, combined with the CSR Elite Pedals. It does come with a clutch, optional sequential and H-gate shifters in addition to the flappy pedals. 380,00 Euros for the package, which is a bit less than the G27 would cost.

So far, it's considerably better than any of the other wheels I've experienced. Better Force Feedback, better steering feel (don't know how to describe that, exactly), feels better to the touch and better built. Same goes for the pedals. These come with a clutch pedal as well. Easy to mount and dismount to a table as well. Plus, it connects to the PS3, Xbox360 and the PC, so it's an allrounder.

Worth the price? To me, definitely.
 
It's even possible to shift with the H - Shifter without clutch, if you know how. ;)
So yes, you can shift without the clutch (sequential, paddles, H - Shifter)

Really, if you're going to use the wheel exclusively for GT6, then I don't really see any use in buying the expensive options in the form of G27 and Fanatec. I'm using a DFGT and qualitywise it's really good. You don't have the feeling that the wheel is going to break in half when you're really crank up the Force feedback, which is exceptional btw, and saw on it. Two mayor complaints, the FF motors tend to be a little loud and the paddles are, there's no other way to put it, rubbish.

I've also used the cheapest wheel of Fanatec (Fanatec Carrera) which was defect after a short period of time and due to some complications with the support I didn't get replaced (that's why I'm using the DFGT again, used one prior to the Fanatec as well)
But the time I've spend with this wheel it was exceptional! Although the Carrera was pretty cheap looking, the overall feeling when driving it was and still is untouched for me. The G25/G27 don't come close to the driving feel and especially pedals of Fanatec.

So, if you're willing to pay the price, go Fanatec! But, if you're just looking for a (very) good wheel for the occasional GT6, then don't waste the money and go DFGT, although the pedals are rubbish, the wheel itself is fantastic. With a little mod, you can even fit Fanatec paddle shifters to the buttons on the backside :D
 
Hmm... does the DFGT have a clutch?

And what do you mean with rubbish pedals... Is it hard to control the acceleration?

And rubbish paddles... do you mean the shift paddles don't work properly?

Thanks for the answers;-)

Edit: My english is not very good, does that mean there is force feedback, but the servos from force feedback are loud?:)
 
ImmalovemaGTR
Hmm... does the DFGT have a clutch?

And what do you mean with rubbish pedals... Is it hard to control the acceleration?

And rubbish paddles... do you mean the shift paddles don't work properly?

Thanks for the answers;-)

Edit: My english is not very good, does that mean there is force feedback, but the servos from force feedback are loud?:)
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They mean that they're made of crappy materials/plastic. And no, no clutch on DFGT.

Just so you know, you need to mount any (quality) wheel you get to something. They don't come with anything to mount on, so you'll need a table or something. They do however, come with clamps so you can clamp/secure it to what ever you want.
 
ImmalovemaGTR
Hmm... does the DFGT have a clutch?

And what do you mean with rubbish pedals... Is it hard to control the acceleration?

And rubbish paddles... do you mean the shift paddles don't work properly?

Thanks for the answers;-)

Edit: My english is not very good, does that mean there is force feedback, but the servos from force feedback are loud?:)
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No, the DFGT doesn't have a clutch. And by the rubbish, I mean that you basically have no "feeling" in them, like you would get when driving/pushing a brake pedal in real life.

The Shift Paddles work very good, although they're not paddels as such but rather bigger buttons.

No, it's basically the "turning" servo that tends to get loud when you're turning your feeling quickly.
 
The very best thing you can do with a DFGT is modify a set of G27 pedals bought from EBay to work with it. It's not difficult (you can probably just unplug the DFGT pedal cable and swap it across) and although you end up with a redundant clutch pedal that will never work, you get decent pedals which you could then modify further with a replacement spring or load cell if you wanted.

Unfortunately all of the Logitech wheels are gear driven and although the DFGT and G27 use helical gears, you still get some gear lash (the whirring noise, though it's far, far quieter than the DFP's straight gears!) and clacking sounds as the direction changes and the spring loaded axle stops extend and tap the inner case. Not much you can do about those noises but the noise from the G27 pedals is louder anyway, in my experience. If those noises bother you too much all you can do is get a belt driven alternative but they're all far more expensive.
 
Hmmm... Now I am interested in the DFGT... but is there a wheel, same price same quality WITH Clutch?

EDIT: What about rotation... what is better 500 or 900 degrees?
And is there a price difference?
Ah and what I forgot, H-shifter would be perfect...

Okay sorry for again editing, but everything in a nutshell: I want a wheel with the functions of the G27, the quality and price of the DFGT...
 
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The DFGT is a good choice if you want to stay at a low price, It clamps well to a table also. I have one here that I used for a little while and liked it just fine. I also play Forza though so I upgraded to a Fanatec which is awesome but much more expensive.

As good as the Fanatec is when it comes to table mounting I think the mounts on the DFGT and the G25/27 are quite a bit better. I ended up building a rig and bolting my Fanatec into it. When mounted using just the clamp I was always afraid I would break the mount off while driving and the wheel moved around a bit no matter how tight it was clamped.

No clutch on the DFGT though and the pedals are kinda cheapy but do work well.
 
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The DFGT is a good choice if you want to stay at a low price, It clamps well to a table also. I have one here that I used for a little while and liked it just fine. I also play Forza though so I upgraded to a Fanatec which is awesome but much more expensive.

As good as the Fanatec is when it comes to table mounting I think the mounts on the DFGT and the G25/27 are quite a bit better. I ended up building a rig and bolting my Fanatec into it. When mounted using just the clamp I was always afraid I would break the mount off while driving and the wheel moved around a bit no matter how tight it was clamped.

No clutch on the DFGT though and the pedals are kinda cheapy but do work well.
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Does the fanatec have H-shifter? and is there a version without the forza logo? (yeah I know stupid but... however)

And what about the G25...?
 
I searched a bit through the Internet, looked at the money I have...
Well I think it will be the G27... Not only for GT6, also for Dirt3 and maybe pC.A.R.S. later...

EDIT: Or does anybody have a good alternative...?:)
 
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Ended up with G27, It was 100 percent worth the 260 Euros... extremely smooth on GT5, a blast on DiRT3 and great fun with NFS: MW 2012
 
Best choice! It is really a step up from a DFGT but it isn't that expensive as a Fanatech or Thrustmaster. They seem to be really reliable, because they use a gear in stead of a belt driven system. I experienced the same as you. It has good feedback and extremely smooth for a gear driven wheel. I almost can't feel the gears. It uses very nice materials (I love that leather and aluminium) and it has really capable pedals.
And it has three years warranty...
 
ImmalovemaGTR
Ended up with G27, It was 100 percent worth the 260 Euros... extremely smooth on GT5, a blast on DiRT3 and great fun with NFS: MW 2012
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Now you only need ETS2 and thr set of games is complete. :P
 

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