Wheel settings query

[Coldon66]

On the set-up screen for the wheel there is a section where you can alter the type of steering (amateur, standard or professional), the option of whether to have steering deemed power assisted or not and lastly the straightforward force feedback strength.

My questions concern the first two parts of the wheel set-up. Can anyone shed any light on what kind of differences can be ascertained when each of the amateur, standard & professional settings are picked. What kind of changes or lack of can be felt with the different types of steering. Also the power assisted thing, what does that do or change.

I'm level 31 and would like advice of what settings I ultimately should be using. Since I'm pretty good at the game should I be opting for professional and will it benefit me more??

Any thoughts welcome...

 

[evil_c5]

I started out on amateur and feedback at 1 and it jerked me all over the place. then changed to simulation and 6 feedback and it drives nice.

within an hour I had cut 3 seconds off my best DS3 time on high speed ring with my test car (905)

 

[Alara78]

It depends on what wheel you have

 

[Basilea]

Good question... I have a DFGT what is the standard setting and what should I use? Never changed it...

 

[Coldon66]

It depends on what wheel you have

I have the DFGT wheel. What settings do you think for this??

 

[schigara]

I have my DFGT set on simulation and FFB strength on 10 and wish it could go to 12 or 13.

 

[liQster]

I have my DFGT set on simulation and FFB strength on 10 and wish it could go to 12 or 13.

wish so, too 👍

 

[Miths]

FFB higher than 6 or 7 (I've had it as low as 3 at times, currently using it at 6) and it feels like I'm wrestling my G25.
Sure, I can still turn the wheel at the highest FFB setting, but when I want an upper body workout I go to the gym .

 

[puppy1985]

Dint think the DFGT used amateur, professional and simulation settings?

Just the force feedback and power steering. (in GT5)

 

[YellowG1]

I have the DFGT wheel. What settings do you think for this??

I have the DFGT. My FFB is set to 1 or 2. In my experience 7-10 is unrealistically high. Also, it seems like high FFB setting wear out the wheel's motor quicker. Not my personal experience though.

 

[Coldon66]

Dint think the DFGT used amateur, professional and simulation settings?

Just the force feedback and power steering. (in GT5)

Does use the amateur, simulation & professional settings. Not sure what one to opt for, and what differences it makes to the experience if anything noticeable at all?

I use FFB at 5 and I find that okay. However, not too sure what the optimal settings are for the other two parameters?

 

[Alara78]

The option for amateur, professional and simulation settings do not apply to the DFGT as seen by the fact that the DFGT icon fades out when highlighting these settings.

 

[puppy1985]

the option for amateur, professional and simulation settings do not apply to the dfgt as seen by the fact that the dfgt icon fades out when highlighting these settings.

x1

 

[tezster]

There seems to be a post about this every week - the 'realism' settings do not affect the behavior of the DFGT.

I think it would help greatly if we had a sticky either in the GT5 (or even the wheels) forum covering some basic information about the more popular wheels, and how the various settings affects a wheel's operation.

 

[Alara78]

x1

What are you trying to tell me ?

 

[Basilea]

I tried it yesterday and the DFGT indeed doesn't have amateur, professional and simulation option. Only the FFB can be changed!

 

[Coldon66]

The option for amateur, professional and simulation settings do not apply to the DFGT as seen by the fact that the DFGT icon fades out when highlighting these settings.

On my PS3/GT5 when I highlight these different settings they are definitely available. I can choose Amateur, Professional or Simulation, any one of the three. So they must affect my wheel otherwise I would not have posted the question...

Not being a nuisance but they appear on my screen and can be chosen??

 

[Coldon66]

I have my DFGT set on simulation and FFB strength on 10 and wish it could go to 12 or 13.

Also check this above. This person has changed to simulation!! So it can be done.

 

[Alara78]

On my PS3/GT5 when I highlight these different settings they are definitely available. I can choose Amateur, Professional or Simulation, any one of the three. So they must affect my wheel otherwise I would not have posted the question...

Not being a nuisance but they appear on my screen and can be chosen??

Yes, they appear on your screen and can be chosen, but have no effect whatsoever on your DFGT.

It's not the option to choose the settings that fades out, it's the pictures of the DFGT and DFpro that fade out, telling us that these settings don't apply to these wheels.

 

[strtgng]

Ok - we have established these settings mean nothing for a DFGT. How about for the wheels they do work for? What exactly changes? I'm using a PWTS and I think I set it to Simulation.

 

[pay2021]

I have my DFGT set on simulation and FFB strength on 10 and wish it could go to 12 or 13.

You must be Hercules, how you rally?? DFGT here, i use simulation, and start with ffb 5, the rally goes hard and in the drift especially when you have to straight the direction, so i put 3 then 2 and now i think to put 1

 

[dynasty_dennis]

... the option of whether to have steering deemed power assisted or not ...

That's exactly my question too ! I just received my DFGT two days ago (finally !) and currently I am still struggling to drive with the DFGT (I know it takes time to get used to it but I'm not even able to drive a clean and fast turn) ! Therefore I was also thinking to play around with the settings but I don't know what the power assist will affect.

 

[puppy1985]

What are you trying to tell me ?

I ment +1 as I agreed with you.

 

[t_w_a_h]

That's exactly my question too ! I just received my DFGT two days ago (finally !) and currently I am still struggling to drive with the DFGT (I know it takes time to get used to it but I'm not even able to drive a clean and fast turn) ! Therefore I was also thinking to play around with the settings but I don't know what the power assist will affect.

For what it's worth I have the settings on:

- simulation;
- power assist off;
- force feedback 1.

I tried power assist on and it felt too twitchy. I think the force feedback setting could be increased but will do that incrementally until I get to where it feels right.

The thing I have am finding hard to get right every time is corner exits and winding off the lock correctly. I am getting closer to my DS3 times slowly though!

 

[tezster]

For the DFGT, 'power-assisted' steering reduces the amount of force required to turn the wheel when making rapid wheel movements - I've tried both and the effect is very apparent and (to me) doesn't feel very natural.

What basically happens is when you rotate the wheel fast enough, the resistance is significantly reduced, to the point where it feels like the wheel has gone limp. Its implementation, however, isn't that great. The effect generated feels exactly like when your car goes over a bump and a tire loses contact with the ground, so there are times it can be difficult to determine if the feedback the wheel is giving you is due to loss of tire contact or the 'power-assist' kicking in.

It can help on twisty tracks and longer races, but it boils down to driver preference whether you use it or not.

 

[dynasty_dennis]

I tried power assist on and it felt too twitchy.

So you mean it is trying to stabilize the car if it starts to slide ?

 

[Alara78]

I ment +1 as I agreed with you.

Ah ok, I thought you were referring the Red Bull X1, so I was like...Huh?

 

[MilesMenace]

What it means is that the wheel senses you are trying to turn fast and removes resistance so you can turn the wheel faster.

The effect is that it feels like your tires are sliding when in reality your steering wheel just got soft.

I hate this setting. I want the wheel to feel "real" all the time and to not help me.

 

[Coldon66]

For the DFGT, 'power-assisted' steering reduces the amount of force required to turn the wheel when making rapid wheel movements - I've tried both and the effect is very apparent and (to me) doesn't feel very natural.

What basically happens is when you rotate the wheel fast enough, the resistance is significantly reduced, to the point where it feels like the wheel has gone limp. Its implementation, however, isn't that great. The effect generated feels exactly like when your car goes over a bump and a tire loses contact with the ground, so there are times it can be difficult to determine if the feedback the wheel is giving you is due to loss of tire contact or the 'power-assist' kicking in.

It can help on twisty tracks and longer races, but it boils down to driver preference whether you use it or not.

Thanks for the explanation.

Apologies to some people who posted. I got in from work and it does appear that when you alter to Amateur, Simulation or Professional, the DFGT wheel does go grey and goes blank (which gives the impression as if these settings don't matter with this particular wheel). That may well be the case, who knows...

The other two things do matter obviously. Power assisted has been explained above by tezster and FFB is self explanatory (I like it at 5 and I think I will opt to leave power assist off).