Wheels?

[Kent]

Looking into buying new wheels for my '11 Si (dyno blue). What are the best wheel makers? My current choice is the Konig Feather Gold but I would love to hear suggestions from yall.

Thanks for your input!

Btw... http://www.konigwheels.com/Konig-Home/Konig-Passenger-Wheels/FEATHER-GOLD

Oh and the size would be 17x7 with +45 offset

 

[Keef]

What are the best wheel makers?

Depends on how much money you have in the bank.

WedsSport TC105Ns are the new hotness. Bolt some up in 17x9 +25...

That'll be about $450 per corner.

Yes, you read that right. 17x9 +25 and they're not even poking. I've been a member of 8th Civic for while and I can tell you with certainty that if you're looking for good fitment, nothing extreme, don't pay attention to what any of them have to say. There's a select few FGs out there with nice fitment, and the car I posted happens to be one of them.

 

[Kent]

Looking to keep stock sizes so I doubt 17x9 is in my future. Im doing it for appearance not performance. I will be keeping my tires as well which is part of why I want to keep stock sizes. That said wedsport is what you ride on? Sounds good, thanks for the advice. Btw, Im in a dbp fa5.

 

[Joey D]

Look at MB Weapons, they are rebadged A-Tech wheels which are Mad JDM y0!

They are inexpensive too.

Oh and here's an Si sitting on em.

 

[Keef]

Nothing wrong with keeping the stock size, but you should go with a lower offset for a more flush fit.

And no, I don't have Weds lol. I wish I could afford wheels like that. My wheel of choice used to be, and eventually will be again, Enkei RPF1s...

...though they're wide too lol. But, the stock 205-width tires fit.

17x9 +22 RPF1:

RPF1s in 17 inch sizes can be had for about $250, which is very cheap considering they are pure-bred with a track pedigree.

EDIT: I like how when you image search "Civic Si RPF1" my old Civic pops up. Nice.

 

[Joey D]

EDIT: I like how when you image search "Civic Si RPF1" my old Civic pops up. Nice.

In the Questionable Mod's Thread on GTP too!

 

[Kent]

So apparently advan doesnt have a US branch so Im not buying from them, that said Im looking at Konig again but mostly because I dont know many other brands. Any other companies out there worth checking? My main concern is durability/ reliability and brand strength (as an assurance of customer service and whatnot).

 

[Duke]

Any other companies out there worth checking? My main concern is durability/ reliability and brand strength (as an assurance of customer service and whatnot).

I would also look at Motegi (many styles and prices) or Kosei (though their styles are limited, they're good). I have a set of each for the Miata, and Borbets on the BMW, which are well made but too.

These would be the hotness.

By the way, do you know about www.tirerack.com? Their prices and selection are solid (though no longer the best) and they have a configurator where you can view your car with the selected wheels. Plus if you buy tires at the same time, they mount and balance for free, which is about $100 savings. Also try www.discounttiredirect.com.

 

[Perfect Balance]

If you're doing it mainly for looks, then you should be especially paying attention to wheel size and offset, since that's the only thing that's going to make them look good if they aren't wrapped in 255 tires.

I actually have 205/45/17s on my car on a 17x9. It's not really that bad. I don't really know what a stock Civic runs, but don't spend money on something that's going to make your car looks worse that it does. MB wheels are super cheap, and since you're looking at Konigs, I imagine your budget isn't too high.

XXR also is coming out with a wheel called the 527.

17x8.25 and come in +25 and +35 offsets. Like 120 a piece.

 

[Keef]

That looks pretty nice. That deep face would look fantastic, and the 17x8.25 +25 size would fit near-perfect on the Si. Lower the car down around those wheels and it would be looking good.

 

[Punknoodle]

I actually have 205/45/17s on my car on a 17x9. It's not really that bad.

205s must be pretty stretched on a 9" rim, just for other people reading this you have to make sure both rim and tire are suitable for stretching, and it is illegal to do in some places.

 

[Eric.]

Look at MB Weapons, they are rebadged A-Tech wheels which are Mad JDM y0!

They are inexpensive too.

Oh and here's an Si sitting on em.

And here's another Si sitting on them...

OH!

 

[Kent]

Actually the budget is unlimited more or less, I just dont know much about wheels. The current set is 17 215/45 with +45 offset. On my way to tirerack, will update later. After looking at tirerack and realizing sets of bbs can be 4500 Im going to mention that ideally Id like to spend 500 per wheel at most... 200 to 300 would be great.

 

[Keef]

The RPF1 I posted earlier fits neatly right in the middle of your budget, then.

If your stock tires are 215/45 you'll be pleased to find out that those will fit perfectly well on a x9 wheel, with a nice stretch. That's a common tire and wheel width combo for the 240 guys.

If you're not into as much stretch, the XXR Perfect Balance posted won't be as bad. It's still got the attractive convex face that really sets off a car's stance, making it look wider, lower, and powerful. Because it's x8.25 +25 instead of x9 +25 it won't sit all hellaflush, which it sounds like you're not into, but it will fit more proper than a near-stock sized wheel.

Honestly, I'm already convinced by the XXRs. If you don't like the color you can get them powdercoated with the epic money you save!

 

[Kent]

I know it will sound crazy but im going to stick with the stock dimensions. Im staying as close to stock as possible until the time comes for some real upgrades i/h/e. As it stands now Im also considering advan but I cant confirm any offices in the US, anyone able to confirm or deny?

Regardless my concern is to go with the right brand and go for the right style after that.
More brand suggestions are welcome.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Evasive motorsports sells Advan wheels.

Also I think you're wasting your money going with the stock dimensions. You're dead set on that even though there's absolutely no logical reason to do so, and quite a few reasons why you shouldn't.

You don't have to buy new tires. 215's look fine on a 9. Go with an 8 if you're that worried about it. Even selling a 17x7 will be difficult in the future when you decide to get a proper sized wheel because it's a size nobody really wants.

EDIT: Btw, a properly sized wheel and tire setup will do more for looks AND performance than the "real upgrades" you mention.

 

[CodeRedR51]

As it stands now Im also considering advan but I cant confirm any offices in the US, anyone able to confirm or deny?

Shameless plug.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/wheels-advan-c-6424_4542_4544.html

Edit: Call for best price, website is mainly MSRP.

 

[Eric.]

And just what good does a 17x9 wheel with a massively stretched 215mm tire do on a stock Civic Si? It'll look retarded at the stock 4x4 ride height.


Kent, best mod for the car is Hondata FlashPro.

 

[Perfect Balance]

And just what good does a 17x9 wheel with a massively stretched 215mm tire

Not really.

It's going to look equally as retarded 4x4 status with 17x9s or 17x7s. Might as well get something that has the potential to look good with a drop.

I also thought he might not be a fan of stretch, which is why I recommended those 17x8.25 wheels, but I wouldn't really go for those since his budget allows for something much better.

 

[Keef]

I'd go for them because with the money he saves he can get better tires, or add to his coilover fund.

 

[Eric.]

I've seen 225s stretched on 17x9 that looks more stretched than any of those pictures.

 

[Punknoodle]

Everyone is saying about how there is no logical reason not to vary from the stock offset etc but pushing out a wheel too far from it's factory offset can completely ruin the suspension geometry of that vehicle. I know everyone does it these days but just bear it in mind.

 

[Kent]

Ride quality has to suffer.
Stretched rubber + friction = reduced durability.
Non-factory dimensions equals grounds for voiding warranty on all affected parts (points to post above).

If I were more concerned with icreasing performance Id be asking about what summer tires to wear in auto-cross. That said, Im on all season staying well within their limits for daily driving.

While I appreciate the input, I feel its foolish to say there is absolutely no reason for staying on stock sizes.

Btw, the advan links are only distributors, not actual offices for US relations so it would still be a huge pain to contact advan for anything.

 

[Joey D]

Aftermarket wheels won't affect your warranty. I've had aftermarket wheels for two years and the only thing the dealer ever complained about was when I forgot my wheel key. I even had various suspension items replaced under warranty with aftermarket wheels and there wasn't an issue.

If you are really paranoid just swap to the OEM wheels and tires prior to service.

 

[Kent]

Thats entirely up to the dealership but even then all the other stuff I said holds true. Further I didnt mention it but I refuse to get into a situation where there is rubbing and the only way to check that is with four people in the car, normal speeds, a solid bump of some kind, ant the wheels in question. More over I dont see why suggestions for wheel brands has turned into a persuade Kent to get away from stock sizes argument.

Btw, what did you have to replace under warranyy, Im calling my dealer now to ask about the subject.

 

[Joey D]

It's not up to the dealer, it's governed by the law, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 to be exact.

And as long as you keep similar dimensions on your wheels you won't have rubbing. Even then I doubt you'll have much of a problem. I went from 175/65/15 to 205/50/16 to 205/55/16 with no rubbing issues. I could even go 215/45/17 with no problems either. Unless you are going to put 20" rims on your car with some stupidly big sidewall I doubt you'll have rubbing issues.

I mean Civics are some of the most modded cars out there. You'll be fine.

 

[Kent]

Lemon law isnt going to force a dealer to honor a warranty on suspension arts when the geometry is off because of non-stock wheels. More over, someone Ive never met telling me on the internet they doubt I will have issues isnt the comfort you may think. Fact is, I was looking for suggestions on brands since I didnt know which manufacturer to trust. At this point in the thread we are so far from that I dont see much point in continuing.

Also, I dont see how anything else I said was refuted. Of course I still grant you congrats on that suspension warranty repair (forget answering me about the part), what kind of car was it?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Btw, the advan links are only distributors, not actual offices for US relations so it would still be a huge pain to contact advan for anything.

Believe me, if you need something we can find it/get it. 👍

 

[Keef]

I've seen 225s stretched on 17x9 that looks more stretched than any of those pictures.

Tire sizes vary. You didn't think those measurements were industry-standard, did you? Or that all-seasons aren't typically as wide as summer tires, which aren't typically as wide as Extreme summer tires, which aren't typically as wide as R-comps. Look at Speed Junkie's 205 R888s. They're a whole inch wider than his 205 DZ101s.

Everyone is saying about how there is no logical reason not to vary from the stock offset etc but pushing out a wheel too far from it's factory offset can completely ruin the suspension geometry of that vehicle. I know everyone does it these days but just bear it in mind.

You're right that lower/higher offsets have interesting effects on suspension geometry and tracking, as does increased width. But it's all about the look, man. And if you're into performance, slapping some fat R-comps on your wide wheels because you can will make you forget about any marginal geometry change you've made.

I mean Civics are some of the most modded cars out there. You'll be fine.

I posted the ridiculous sizes people put on new Civics to show Kent that, yes, RWD sizes fit on Civics lol.

Ride quality has to suffer.
Stretched rubber + friction = reduced durability.

So you want wheels because they look cool, right? Being legit comes with some sacrifices.

Btw, the advan links are only distributors, not actual offices for US relations so it would still be a huge pain to contact advan for anything.

Why do you need to contact Advan? It's not like you can sent off your one-piece forged wheels to be rebuilt. Order what size you want, bring them in off your doorstep, bolt them on. Simple as that.

 

[Eric.]

Tire sizes vary. You didn't think those measurements were industry-standard, did you? Or that all-seasons aren't typically as wide as summer tires, which aren't typically as wide as Extreme summer tires, which aren't typically as wide as R-comps. Look at Speed Junkie's 205 R888s. They're a whole inch wider than his 205 DZ101s.

How about Star Specs. They're pretty much as wide as they come.


And again, he's not slammed down to his bumpstops on cheap coilovers, he's at the stock ride height with 5" of fender gap. 17x9s will look retarded.