Where are all the cars?

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I got a PS3 last year so I thought I would get GT5. I used to have an Xbox 360 and I loved Forza 4. But when I started playing GT5 I was a bit disappointed. The graphics were great but I had heard that GT had an enormous amount of cars but I honestly didn't think there was. I am a noob when it comes to GT or PlayStations for that fact but where do I find all these promised cars?
 
There is over 1000 cars

800 of them in UCD and i think 200 in the NCD.



why there are separated ?

very very long story and alot of explanation .
 
I got a PS3 last year so I thought I would get GT5. I used to have an Xbox 360 and I loved Forza 4. But when I started playing GT5 I was a bit disappointed. The graphics were great but I had heard that GT had an enormous amount of cars but I honestly didn't think there was. I am a noob when it comes to GT or PlayStations for that fact but where do I find all these promised cars?

You'll find ~40 Skylines, ~30 Miatas and ~20 S2000s in the game ;)
 
and also the UCD cycles through a load of cars per 5 races i think? so you cant just go out and buy what you want.

Same with the OCD aside from the fact thats not random thats whatever PD wants it to be.
 
About 200 of the cars can be bought from the new car dealership, these are 'Premium' cars. The other 800 cars can be bought from the used car dealership, these are 'Standard' cars. You may be disappointed to find out that only the 'Premium' cars are PS3 quality, the 'standard' cars are all imported from the PS2 and as a result they lack interiors and look very last-generation.
 
There is over 1000 cars

800 of them in UCD and i think 200 in the NCD.



why there are separated ?

very very long story and alot of explanation .

800 is quite the fluff...

Not counting dupes, and regional dupes (LHD/RHD), theres about 550 standards.

This is the biggest SWINDLE inthe whole game...Lutecia or Clio, the only difference is wat side the blacked out steering wheel is on, OPEL or VAUXHALL astra TC, same, Mazda 3 or Familia, same

This is even more of a rip off than having 50 skylines, at least they are individual models...

They arent fooling anyone...1000 "cars" arent 1000 individual models..
 
Gran Turismo 5 has 1089 vehicles (including DLC) to choose from. 278 cars are premium and 811 cars are standard models.

Premium cars are found in the Car Dealership, while the standard cars are found in the Used Car Dealership (UCD) or the Online Car Dealership (OCD). The UCD cycles vehicles after each offline and online event (excluding drift and time trial runs) and the OCD cycles when Polyphony updates the list, which is usually every other week.

Premium cars are the vehicles modelled for GT5, as the ones seen in most screenshots of the game, and are fully modelled. Standard cars are vehicles imported from Gran Turismo 3, Gran Turismo 4, and Gran Turismo PSP, and are not fully modelled.

Hope this helps.
 
I got a PS3 last year so I thought I would get GT5. I used to have an Xbox 360 and I loved Forza 4. But when I started playing GT5 I was a bit disappointed. The graphics were great but I had heard that GT had an enormous amount of cars but I honestly didn't think there was. I am a noob when it comes to GT or PlayStations for that fact but where do I find all these promised cars?

One of my biggest complaints about GT5, is how inaccessible the car list actually is. over 80% of the cars are in the Used Dealership, and just direct ports off of the PS2 Gran Turismo games.

The thing I loved most about Forza 3, and 4, was that at anytime I had access to all of the cars, and I could use them in time trials, hot laps, or in multiplayer. If I wanted to paint them, tune them, or modify them in anyway, I had to buy the car with credits for my garage. It was a really great system, that I badly hope Gran Turismo 6 adopts.

800 is quite the fluff...

Not counting dupes, and regional dupes (LHD/RHD), theres about 550 standards.

This is the biggest SWINDLE inthe whole game...Lutecia or Clio, the only difference is wat side the blacked out steering wheel is on, OPEL or VAUXHALL astra TC, same, Mazda 3 or Familia, same

This is even more of a rip off than having 50 skylines, at least they are individual models...

They arent fooling anyone...1000 "cars" arent 1000 individual models..

In comparison, Forza 4 has 625 cars after the Porsche Expansion is released, and all of them are unique models, with fully modeled cockpit views.
 
I like the UCD as it is. In fact, I would actually prefer it if it was even tougher to get at the cars. Cars like the '73 BMW 2002 Turbo and other classics should pop up every six months or so. The waiting and anticipation is what gives them worth. Yes it is a game and they are virtual, but does PD prefer the legions of "nothing else to do in GT5" types?

And the NCD ...I think it is WAY too easy there too! The pricing should be such that it takes weeks or months for a person to be able to buy a brand new Premium car ...and by Premium I mean premium models like Mercedes, Ferrari etc. If, in real life, I was told that I can buy a brand new 458 Italia simply by "grinding" for an hour or so, what actual worth would that car have for me? The harder it is to get ...or the more expensive it is, the greater the perceived worth. In order to please the people who want to get at everything the second they launch the game for the first time, I wish they would introduce a test drive system (a system which allows you to take the car to any track in Practise mode only).

@OP - Take your time ...you will find them all eventually. As frustrating as it may seem, I imagine it would be a lot worse to have the game for 3 months and become part of the "nothing else to do in GT5" crowd.
 
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I like the UCD as it is. In fact, I would actually prefer it if it was even tougher to get at the cars. Cars like the '73 BMW 2002 Turbo and other classics should pop up every six months or so. The waiting and anticipation is what gives them worth. Yes it is a game and they are virtual, but does PD prefer the legions of "nothing else to do in GT5" types?

And the NCD ...I think it is WAY too easy there too! The pricing should be such that it takes weeks or months for a person to be able to buy a brand new Premium car ...and by Premium I mean premium models like Mercedes, Ferrari etc. If, in real life, I was told that I can buy a brand new 458 Italia simply by "grinding" for an hour or so, what actual worth would that car have for me? The harder it is to get ...or the more expensive it is, the greater the perceived worth. In order to please the people who want to get at everything the second they launch the game for the first time, I wish they would introduce a test drive system (a system which allows you to take the car to any track in Practise mode only).

@OP - Take your time ...you will find them all eventually. As frustrating as it may seem, I imagine it would be a lot worse to have the game for 3 months and become part of the "nothing else to do in GT5" crowd.

That's the point, it's a game. So we can enjoy these cars without the problems and inconveniences of real life like maintaing them, dealing with availability, insurance, inevitable decay over time, etc. And you talk about taking weeks and months to finally obtain the high-end cars that Ferrari and Mercedes has to offer, I can't begin to imagine what this means for race cars. What if I want to get a Mazda 787B to have some LMP races? Do I have to wait years in order to obtain such a car, since there are only a few in existence? That's ridiculous.

And for a lot of people, being in the "nothing else to do in GT5" crowd has nothing to do with how easy it is to get cars. The problem for some is that PD did not put enough effort into the career mode so we can have events to use some of those cars in.
 
Extremely disappointing the way they set out out collecting cars for the game! I had the game 99% beaten before I even owned 300 cars! What I always thought Kaz should of done is implement a used car dealership! The original one we have now and a fixed one! When say 300 cars or so was always accessible just like the premium garage! Stick the dupes and concepts in the revolving OCD! Call it say a private dealership! Where rare car's can be sometimes purchased! I wanted variety when I raced in A-SPEC and it wasn't really there. Plus A-SPEC is TINY! GT3 Had a bigger A-SPEC with only something like 170 vars to choose from!

The basic components of GT5 is outstanding! But we needed so many more races to choose from! In A-SPEC the same form of racing kept coming up, racing against the same cars! Why the hell was I racing against Citroen C5's in the EXTREME events? why????

I don't mind the leveling up system for attaining cars because frankly it's not much of a stretch to reach level 24! Things like this need better management for GT6!
 
.... being in the "nothing else to do in GT5" crowd has nothing to do with how easy it is to get cars. The problem for some is that PD did not put enough effort into the career mode so we can have events to use some of those cars in.



Win.


Also- NOBODY has yet mentioned a most critical fact concerning the OP's question. The ever-wonderful Used Car Dealership (UCD) only contains about 30 cars. Every time you compete in an event, it refreshes 6 cars. So 5 events attempted (you don't have to win or even complete them) and you get a lovely refresh of these 30 cars- of which about 20 of them will surely be the ridiculously dominant (in terms of how often they show up) Miatas, S2000's, worthless Kei-cars, Skylines, Miatas, 3000GT's, and Miatas.

Yay?
 
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I really can appreciate the fact that there are not enough events for all the cars. It continues to frustrate me, for example, when I come across the same self-said '73 BMW 2002 in the supposedly "Extreme" European Championships.

But the fact is that I made level 40 on both A and B spec without doing the Ring 24, the Le Mans 24 and the Indy 500 enduros. And I did not take advantage of any glitch either since I do not connect my PS3 to the internet and literally live off A-Spec and Pratice mode. So how did I make the 40s? By doing the Clubman Cup (Amateur Series), Classic Muscle Car Championship (Amateur), Mini Challenge (I owned one before in RL and love it), Tuned Car Championship, Schwarzwalk League A and B, Turbo Challenge, Japanese Championships, Dream Car Championships, the Grand Valley 300km, the Laguna Seca 300 Miles and the Nurburgring 4-Hour Endurance races over and over again. Mind you I was not grinding ...I was simply using as many cars available in the NCD and UCD as possible and was enjoying every mile/kilometer! Many cars, like the M5, the R32, R33 and R34 have been used over and over again because, quite frankly, I cannot get enough of them. And these races have been done in my spare time ...like 30 minutes before I leave for work and 1 hour before bed. There was no effort on my part and it was, and is, certainly not boring for me.

My point is this: The OP needs to exercise patience if he is not to rush 100 miles per hour into the path of boredom. I was not in any way degrading the people who are bored with the game. I am only saying that if you run the game for the first time, and immediately ask "where are all the cars", some tweaking to the approach might be necessary if you want to prolong your enjoyment.
 
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