Which car are you looking forward to drive in GT5?

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Lotus Exige S260 (I really hope it's in the game...)
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PD has yet to include an Exige (though the Motorsport Elise is pretty darn close to an S1). It's been very frustrating and I really hope that's remedied next month. Any version will do for me!
 
PD has yet to include an Exige (though the Motorsport Elise is pretty darn close to an S1). It's been very frustrating and I really hope that's remedied next month. Any version will do for me!

Considering their close relationship with Lotus and the fact we got the Evora as DLC in Prologue weeks before the motoring press actually got to drive the real one I was wondering whether we might get one ( or a few ) of the new concepts shown at Paris......
Probably not but I wouldn't mind the new Esprit, Elite, Elan, Elise and Eterne to make their debut in GT5 again.

Considering the fact they want to put Lotus firmly back on the map and may want to retain the momentum by maximizing exposure worldwide.
 
Considering their close relationship with Lotus and the fact we got the Evora as DLC in Prologue weeks before the motoring press actually got to drive the real one I was wondering whether we might get one ( or a few ) of the new concepts shown at Paris......
Probably not but I wouldn't mind the new Esprit, Elite, Elan, Elise and Eterne to make their debut in GT5 again.

Considering the fact they want to put Lotus firmly back on the map and may want to retain the momentum by maximizing exposure worldwide.

There's a huge difference though - the Evora was production-ready at least by the time that DLC was released, and probably pretty close to it when it was being modelled by T10. The six cars revealed in Paris are pure fantasy at the moment, sketches and proposed performance figures with little behind them. It's far from clear that they will all, or indeed that any of them will, enter production at any stage.

Of course, PD aren't shy of including fantasy cars in GT (if I sound bitter it's because it's one thing I really hate in a game that claims to be a sim) but I don't think there's anything much for Lotus to share with them yet. Depending on how Lotus' future unfolds and GT timescales develop we may yet see Lotus prototypes in GT6 though.
 
There's a huge difference though - the Evora was production-ready at least by the time that DLC was released, and probably pretty close to it when it was being modelled by T10. The six cars revealed in Paris are pure fantasy at the moment, sketches and proposed performance figures with little behind them. It's far from clear that they will all, or indeed that any of them will, enter production at any stage.

Of course, PD aren't shy of including fantasy cars in GT (if I sound bitter it's because it's one thing I really hate in a game that claims to be a sim) but I don't think there's anything much for Lotus to share with them yet. Depending on how Lotus' future unfolds and GT timescales develop we may yet see Lotus prototypes in GT6 though.

Well a concept car isn't a fantasy car in my opinion, it may be far fetched to perceive it as realistic driving one in a game but to be honest I welcome them as it's probably the only chance they might be experienced by most of us.
GT4 included quite a few concepts cars ( remember the Audi Le Mans which eventually became the R8? ) and GT5 will include at least 2 specifically created for GT5 ( which therefore are fantasy cars ).

And ofcourse those Lotus concepts are fantasy for now, that doesn't mean the data can't be used for the physics engine of GT5 and the engines used for each model are also known.
All models are fully designed inside out and Lotus does seem to go for a rather aggressive and bold strategy this time.

But you're right in saying the Evora debut in Prologue was a different situation but they may wish to enthuse potential future customers for this new line-up given the long lifespan of GT5 combined with the fact these cars are a few years away yet and the momentum they now have may diminish in impact over time.
But again I don't count on it to happen.
 
Well a concept car isn't a fantasy car in my opinion, it may be far fetched to perceive it as realistic driving one in a game but to be honest I welcome them as it's probably the only chance they might be experienced by most of us.
GT4 included quite a few concepts cars ( remember the Audi Le Mans which eventually became the R8? ) and GT5 will include at least 2 specifically created for GT5 ( which therefore are fantasy cars ).

And ofcourse those Lotus concepts are fantasy for now, that doesn't mean the data can't be used for the physics engine of GT5 and the engines used for each model are also known.
All models are fully designed inside out and Lotus does seem to go for a rather aggressive and bold strategy this time.

I think this is one of those areas where the distinctions are personal. For me, a concept car which is not driveable in the real world is a fantasy car as far as representations of that car's driving behaviour are concerned. We're not experiencing a representation of those cars in the game, we're just experiencing the polygon shell of that concept on something mechanically unrelated to it. Inevitably racing sims are a large part fantasy, but that's too much fantasy for me to feel enthusiastic about.

I may well be wrong (for a change!) but I don't believe Lotus have enough data on those cars for PD to be able to model them. They're being touted as production plans for the company, but it seems like there could be more too it than that. Or less, depending on your point of view.

Sorry, that's rambling a bit. Too tired to make anything more coherent out of it, but hopefully it will make enough sense to be worth posting as a reply!
 

i loved the race version of that car when i won it in gt4, it was definitely one of my favorites, i'll have to remember to win or buy that car in gt5 for sure, it had the best handling that i can think of
 
I agree on that black Mercedes. The race version was really great. Never had the road version though, but yeah I'll make sure to get both in GT5.
 
I think this is one of those areas where the distinctions are personal. For me, a concept car which is not driveable in the real world is a fantasy car as far as representations of that car's driving behaviour are concerned. We're not experiencing a representation of those cars in the game, we're just experiencing the polygon shell of that concept on something mechanically unrelated to it. Inevitably racing sims are a large part fantasy, but that's too much fantasy for me to feel enthusiastic about.

I may well be wrong (for a change!) but I don't believe Lotus have enough data on those cars for PD to be able to model them. They're being touted as production plans for the company, but it seems like there could be more too it than that. Or less, depending on your point of view.

Sorry, that's rambling a bit. Too tired to make anything more coherent out of it, but hopefully it will make enough sense to be worth posting as a reply!

Yes it does make sense and yes it's a personal preference foremost and I can't tell you and you can't tell me which cars to like or not and which cars should be perceived as realistic or not ( if they aren't available to buy in real life ).
We all have our own particular idiosyncratic likes and dislikes but you have to agree that your dislike for concept cars in a simulator ( or fantasy cars ) has nothing to do with the possibility these Lotus concepts may or may not be included.

The fact that the GT-R Proto in Prologue didn't have an interior in real life suggests to me it's just a mock-up in real life ( haven't done research to back it up but that seems logical ) as a lot of these concepts or design studies are simply a shell ( mostly with an interior though ) not capable of running.
The fact it could be driven in Prologue suggests the data gathered from it or supplied by Nissan was enough to make it 'realistic' enough to experience in the game ( it's not as if it cornered arcadey or achieved a topspeed of 500 mph, in fact it drove quite similar to the final production version sans cockpit view which made it a bit irrelevant to me ) so I guess the data gathered of those Lotus cars would be sufficient to provide a real taster of the final production ones.

To be honest, I do experience concept cars different from production or real life racecars in the game, as knowing they either aren't for sale, unlikely or impossible to be driven, or even only existing in the game does make the experience indeed less real perhaps but I use a different mindset to appreciate these cars in the concept of a game, one of curiosity and imagination.
And if these cars could ever be experienced by mere mortals a videogame aiming for simulation might be the proper and only context to do so.

As for pure fantasy cars which don't exist, the Nike concept car was in my opinion a bridge too far as it was clearly a cynical Nike marketing concept to tap into another large potential market and although the car was interesting to drive in itself for a few times I treated it as just an irrelevant oddity.
The RedBull X1 however I clearly look forward to, as it's designed by Adrian Newey ( whom I highly regard ), and RedBull is clearly linked to motorsport ( as opposed to Nike ) and the thought of designing a racecar free from regulations incorporating future and past inventions banned in real life is a tantalising prospect.
This is just a designers or engineers wet dream for a long time ( and debated what it could look like for ages ) made possible for the first time in a videogame as in real life this would be a costly and pointless exercise not being considered.
Unrealistic? Yes, in fact better than realistic perhaps.:)
 
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Ditto! can't wait to see which one of the mighty 3 are quickest around different tracks :D

I reckon the 330 P/4 is going to be the most fun and quickest car to drive its history just makes it sound amazing :)









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Stock FF cars round the Nurb'. Always found that super fun, then after sending three or four down, jumping in an EVO or WRX and having them feel like the fastest cars ever.
 
Did I ever say Peugeot 908 at La Sarthe? That's probably a thing I have to wait more than three weeks to try unless it's available to drive from arcade mode.
 

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