Which is Faster Supra or skyline..??

[trivium]

But When it comes to drifting it , the skyline totally doesn't get sideways , I use NOS to get Sideways and Stiffning it up and messing with VCD seems to help , and now when it is exiting a turn it will start its own powerslide.

Ill post my setup soon , see what you like.

 

[Leonidae]

post it on drift forums. and start practising weight shift, it helps a lot.

 

[Dark Elite]

So a new day and I got the R33 close to your Le Sarthe run on R3's finally so it could be possible. Midfiled numbers are possible in both cars.
So that leaves the Le Sarthe run in the R34 Vspec II N1 time of 3.27. a 3.29.867 is my fastest so far and I cut across the last section a little cause time was running out. lol

Could be possible? I think I proved it is, but... OK. Yes, the Midfield runs are easy to match, but I get the feeling we're starting to concentrate on la Sarthe a bit more here?

I believe DE both our runs at Le Sarthe and Midfield are record runs. I checked various websites including ours with track records in the same cars and no one even comes close to our runs in each car. lol ..

That's nice to know

Oh and about the pictures it's fuzzy but I can still see so if you can do that that would be great so I can get an indication of your speed at various parts of the track.

Like I said, I didn't save the replays but I'll get some near-matching runs for you and save those

Thanks DE I agree no deadline lets continue It's a blast driving these cars..... lol

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But When it comes to drifting it , the skyline totally doesn't get sideways , I use NOS to get Sideways and Stiffning it up and messing with VCD seems to help , and now when it is exiting a turn it will start its own powerslide.

Don't use NOS, don't fit VCD, there you go.

DE

 

[trivium]

Well I've now tryed them both on stock and I must admit that the supra drifts better ,and I am a real Skyline fan. But in real Races , you need grip which the R34 suplies , a lot. But then Again , this is a drift forum , drifting is so much easier with FR.

Greetz TR

 

[Dave A]

This isn't a drift forum, this is a GT4 forum, the drift forum is a sub forum here, but this isn't it.

 

[.*StReeTz*.]

The Skyline I feel is an overall better car as well.

 

[Leonidae]

we know

 

[trutank]

Jesus christ those are really fast times at Le Sarthe especially the Supra. But the GTR N1 is just rediculous. I'll try it tonight with the DFP.

 

[Mc Bob]

typically I have found that the Supra is faster, however the R34 will always be faster because of it's superior handling and acceleration.

 

[Dark Elite]

typically I have found that the Supra is faster, however the R34 will always be faster because of it's superior handling and acceleration.

So how does that make any sense at all?

Jesus christ those are really fast times at Le Sarthe especially the Supra. But the GTR N1 is just rediculous.

Thank you.

DE

 

[Leonidae]

I think that he meant Supra being faster in straights, but GT-R being even faster because of the superb traction in corners.. that's my interpretation.

 

[wipplewits]

Originally Posted by Sonzilla
Thanks DE I agree no deadline lets continue It's a blast driving these cars..... lol


This seems like a good place for an invitation for anyone to try to prove his/her position regarding the topic.

I don't have a position, but I like seeing the results point toward an answer.

Edit: Bah, I kan't spel

 

[Kent]

I'd have to say the two cars are even.
Basically... (all my opinions and not proven facts)

Stock: Skyline wins
Both cars can step out of line when riding in stock form on S tires. The Supra seems to get less traction but even so, the Skyline does the same thing and so it really comes down to which one is harder to drive effectively. Because of that, I say the Skyline wins- it is easier to drive fast laps in the Skyline.

Tuned: Tie
Both cars can be tuned to be some of the fastest street cars in the game. On sports tires the Skyline carries the advantage but if racing tires are applied the Supra can really shine. Overall the tuned Skyline and Supra are products of the tuner more than anything else... My tuned Skyline might be faster than "his" tuned Supra but not faster than another guy's Supra. So the end result on this one- tie, both have vast potential as tuned street cars on sports or racing tires.

Race Cars: Supra
I've always been a fan of the Supra race cars in GT. Yes this is a personal bias but I've always found the Supra race cars to have better powerbands (the skylines in gt3 were "weird" and in gt4 there's not even a redline on Skylines). Of course, like I mentioned, race car to race car, this challenge is a matter of taste.

Overall: A tie exist between the Supra and the Skyline.
Both are excellent cars capable of doing pretty much anything you want. On a personal level though, I vote for the Supra as the better of the two... When two cars are so closely tied I go back to appearance and brand- the Supra looks better and stands as Toyota's big dog sports car.

 

[Dark Elite]

Well, Kent, we're trying to sort out the 'tie' between tuned Skylines and Supras. So far, the fastest Skyline beats the fastest Supra, but will that change as we go on? Maybe, maybe not. You could say that a tie also exists between the race car versions of each, as your choice is, as you say, purely personal preference. And I've never lost in a JGTC Skyline against a JGTC Supra

DE

 

[Kent]

Well, by chance I happen to be investigating this subject.
I just started a GT mode based spot race on the ring and my two cars of choice are the Skyline and Supra.

The idea...
Stage 3 weight reduction
Full racing and full custom everything
Racing parts for all power modifiers (as well as all other power mods)

Then test with Stage 1 turbo, stage 2, stage 4, and maybe even stage 5 with original suspensions to compliment the "tuner" theme. 👍

Once I've got some results I will post a link to them in this thread.
Until then,
-Kent

PS. Supra Rules!!!

 

[Dark Elite]

PS. Supra Rules!!!

DE

 

[GM]

Kent, that could work, but then Dark Elite will still disagree when the Supra wins .

This is turning into a battle, Dark Elite vs The World.

Unlucky, Dark Elite.

 

[Dark Elite]

Since when was I on my own, and making statements that aren't backed up by proven fact? Proven fact you seem to have overlooked.

Thus far, the Supra has not won. And if it did, I wouldn't disagree because unlike some, my views are not unfounded and I do not object to being proven wrong. Running the 300mph Club has taught me that I am not always right, and that nevertheless I should always try as best I can to be.

Did that post have any point, or indeed any truth? We wouldn't want to see you going back to this, now would we..

GeorgeMorley - 13th May 2006 - Temporary ban due to poor quality posts, attitude and attempts to avoid the swear filter. Please take the time to consider your style of posting and how it may be improved upon.

DE

 

[GM]

DE

Point of that post is?

 

[Dark Elite]

We're all entitled to a little joke every once in a while, making occasionally redundant posts such as that one shouldn't be frowned upon. However, making comments against members is not advisable, especially when they are untrue and, dare I mention it, childish. I don't feel like arguing any more over this, although if you haven't had enough by all means carry on, but the words 'flogging', 'dead' and 'horse' come to mind.

Seeing as you didn't actually reply to what I said in Post #318, I assume you have no arguements with it.

DE

 

[Scaff]

DE & George

Can I please just ask that we keep things calm in here, its a very interesting and valid thread and I would hate to see it head in the wrong direction.

Thanks

Scaff

 

[GM]

We're all entitled to a little joke every once in a while

Exactly, that expalins my post, anyway, I'm going to stop now.

Edit, Scaff posted a few seconds before me, will do, Scaff.

 

[Dark Elite]

Sorry, Scaff, I too am interested in this thread and what it might show. Just got a little irked at that comment implying blind stubborness...
*Gladly drops the silly arguements*

Sonzilla, have you any new times in the Supra?

DE

 

[GM]

All back to normal then, at last , I'm going to do a few more B Spec tests since I find it's the only way to do these sorts of tests fairly.

 

[Scaff]

No problem and thanks guys

Scaff

 

[Dark Elite]

About as 'normal' as we get, indeed

You know I disagree with using B-Spec for this sort of thing, for reasons I outlined earlier, but seeing as we have an A-Spec battle going on then you can if you wish

DE

 

[Kent]

Yeah really guys, let's keep it civil.

On the subject of this thread...
I have a dilemma.
What Skyline should I use to test agains the '97 Supra RZ?
Should I use a '97 GT-R (R33) or should I use a '99 GT-R (R34) or should I just say screw it and use a GT-R (R34) Nur '02?

I want to keep things even but I also want to keep them fun. There in lies the problem.
If I run an R33 things will be even on a scale of production year and all that but I know the Supra will win (plus, I don't really have an interest in the R33). At the same time though, I know using a R34 may create a real advantage for the Skyline.
Finally, in a test like this, would it make a great deal of difference if I were to use the '02 Nur instead of the regular '99 R34?

Thanks for the input fellas.
As of now I'm going to be thinking it over and looking at what's availible in my garage. Since my Blue Nur model is so pretty I may just use it and say "these models are the pinnacle of each car's design and therefore the year is irrelavant." Then again, that might just be a good way to ruin the test before it starts.

Let me know what you all think.
Thanks.

 

[Dark Elite]

"these models are the pinnacle of each car's design and therefore the year is irrelavant."

I'd agree with that theory. The original post says nothing at all about age, so the year of manufacturer should be irrelevant. It is ridiculous to disallow a particular model of Skyline because it's 'too good' - doesn't that answer the question anyway?

DE

 

[GM]

It's a shame that there is only one Supra and so many Skylines, it makes it hard to choose, but I think you should use the one closest to the Supra 'agewise'.

 

[Dark Elite]

Why?

Just wondering, maybe there's a reason I missed?

DE