Which is more Challenging - Laguna Seca or Nurburgring?

[JediRage]

Why are you comparing a race track and a test track?

If the poll was Laguna Seca vs Nurburgring GP, that would be a bit more realistic.

 

[danjee]

Why are you comparing a race track and a test track?

If the poll was Laguna Seca vs Nurburgring GP, that would be a bit more realistic.

Wha...!?

Both are very much race tracks. Do some research.

 

[Duck]

They both present their challenges. I think the "burg" is more grueling That's 84 turns to manage and if you have to do that for 4 hours or 24 that's like it's name "A Green Monster".

However, as a race I believe Seca is less forgiving. If you make a mistake you're gonna loose a lot of time, that's next to impossible to recover. It's like steering a ship you've gotta hit each turn near perfectly or you'll fall behind.

Laguna Seca is a short track, so it's true that an error is hard to recover, because tenth of seconds in these kind of tracks last an entire life....

On the other side I don't agree it can be considered "less forgiving". First corner: wide track and a lot of sand; 3rd corner: wide kerb and a lot of sand; 4th corner is the most challenging imho, and 5th almost at the same level. Just drive at 99% and I'm sure everyone can match a good race. The last 1% is too much risky, you have to reserve it for hotlapping.

In my experience, approaching the Ring with this conservative way, costs too much in terms of lap time. Most likely, a 'conservative lap' means 20-30" (less within experienced drivers) over a hard hotlap with top cars. The key is: speed. The ring is a very fast track, with very high speed corners. Also there is no sand: many mistakes are only forgiven by.... armco.

 

[Eric.]

Wha...!?

Both are very much race tracks. Do some research.

The Nurburgring is actually an unrestricted toll road besides when its closed for races or manufacturer testing.

 

[HotRodKing]

However, as a race I believe Seca is less forgiving. If you make a mistake you're gonna loose a lot of time, that's next to impossible to recover. It's like steering a ship you've gotta hit each turn near perfectly or you'll fall behind.

while this is true, you cant say its not true for the ring. perhaps what makes the ring seem more forgiving in the game is that if you hit one of those very close guard rails, you just bounce off and keep going. One moderate hit in really life would send you to the pits. It isn't as often that cars it the wall really bad at Laguna.

 

[sdf]

My vote is for the ring, in every lap finds a new way to kill you.

 

[ZEROX]

The Nurb Nord.
It's far more challenging than Laguna Seca.
I've run on Nurb. many times but yet to master it.

As for Laguna, yes, it's true we will lose much time when make a simple mistake.
Try High Speed Ring, it's even more difficult to recover the lost time if you just slide even just a bit or steer away abit from racing line.

 

[mr.wigglesaur]

Strange question, really.

A lot of people here are saying that the Ring harder—because it's longer. This, in my opinion, is no valid reason. To compare them fairly, how about you're doing an hour of each. Length doesn't matter here; it's the feel of the track and the skills required for each.

The Ring is a beautiful mess of different corners, but surprisingly, not to many clear straights (proportionally). I thinks apex-sniping and line are a little less crucial at the Ring. It's really more about balls: Are you willing to hit that kerb at 150 mph? Will you risk touching the dirt to shave some tenths off of your lap?

Laguna, in comparison, is more like finesse driving. Every corner must be dead-on (like the OP says). Otherwise, you fall behind. Consistent, clean laps must happen every time here—no margin for error.

So, I think Laguna Seca is harder.

this. both are challenging, without a doubt, and burning through nurburgring in the rain is absolutely insane, but i still prefer laguna seca. just my opinion

 

[Sm0k3:D]

I think you can't compare these tracks. Because you can't compare the ring with any other track in the game.
Laguna Seca has 1 special corner (corkscrew) and all the others aren't nothing special. IMO it's a nice track.
The ring has lots of special corners... For me is the most challeging track in game.

 

[Gaiajohan]

What's Laguna Seca doing there? Both Spa and Bathurst are much more challenging than Laguna Seca.. Let alone the Ring..

 

[danjee]

The Nurburgring is actually an unrestricted toll road besides when its closed for races or manufacturer testing.

Yes, today. But it was opened in the 20's as a racetrack, right? Or as a race track/road? Either or, I wouldn't restrict it to "test track".

 

[Tyger]

Fuji is ridiculous. That whole hairpin complex just has no flow at all, I never feel like I get it quite right.

Agreed, the older version in GT4 was more enjoyable, didn't have so many ridiculous run-off areas. I think one of the main issues with the new track is the gradient towards the end, makes a few of those awkward corners effectively blind.

I pretty much like all the tracks. Laguna is a pain but it's still fun to drive. The one I CAN'T stand is Tsukuba. It's a drone of a track. Speed-up, slow-down, right hand turn. Speed-up, slow down, right hand turn.

I like Tsukuba but with slower cars. I've enjoyed some of the seasonals there, particularly the very first one with the Fiat 500. It's not so much fun with faster cars though 👎

 

[YellowG1]

What a stupid question.
A longer track with more corners is always more challenging.
Nurburgring, by a huge margin.

By that logic, I-95, which runs from Maine to Miami, is harder than Nurburgring. Try to be more civil too--why say things on the internet that you wouldn't say in person?

 

[Duck]

The Nurburgring is actually an unrestricted toll road besides when its closed for races or manufacturer testing.

A race track (or 'racetrack', 'racing track' or 'racing circuit') is a purpose-built facility for racing of animals (e.g. horse racing or greyhound racing), automobiles, motorcycles or athletes. A race track may also feature grandstands or concourses. Some motorsport tracks are called speedways.
.....
Many sports usually held on racetracks can also occur on temporary but purpose built tracks, such as the Monaco Grand Prix in Formula One.

Of course the whole Nurburgring is a race track, and also is a permanent race track.
Almost all active circuits are open for manifacturer testing, track days, racing team testing.

 

[HONDAndy]

Enduro on seca I went off a few times, same car 4hr on ring afterwards I *had* to shell out a million on fixing the car.

 

[McRoflSandwich]

My vote is for the ring, in every lap finds a new way to kill you.

+1

It's a really challenging track. Even if you know it reasonably well, you can still get caught out reasonably easy when taking a new car round it.

Wheras Laguna Seca, I find thats a fairly easy track to race to be honest. It all seems to flow really well.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

Maybe he think on Nurburgring GP tack????

 

[Mac K]

They both are, but really any track can be challenging if you don't know how to drive, or don't know how the track is layed out.. especially if your after fast lap times. However I find the Ring to be more challenging, especially at night or while its raining.

 

[VicioustC]

The Ring is much more challenging. Laguna Seca only starts becoming tricky at the corkscrew and the 2 corners that follow it.

 

[chris139ryan]

I find laguna seca really easy. nurburgring is much harder

 

[andrez004]

The ring is an easy pick, but I believe majority of people overestimate their skills at Laguna. The Mazda racetrack is very unforgiving. That track will dish out big punishments in time for the littlest mistake. The track has a little of everything and will bring out your vehicles demons. If your car understeers you will find out at the first, second, or third corner. If your vehicle is heavy on oversteer then you might easily trying to drive backward after meeting the corkscrew. I'm not saying Laguna is more demanding than the Ring , but let's not act like Laguna is easy.

 

[freedomweasel]

Enduro on seca I went off a few times, same car 4hr on ring afterwards I *had* to shell out a million on fixing the car.

You only "had" to because you don't understand how chassis maintenance and engine rebuilds work.

Crashing into walls does not make a bit of difference with regard to those options.

 

[Techy]

Obviously, Nordschleife. It is one of the hardest tracks in the world. Running it at full speed is quite frightening to lots of people, esp. at night/raining. And as someone else on this thread said, you can't really master the track because on each and every corner you encounter will always try to mess you up. Even I get super nervous when I try to hot lap it or run it at full speed without wiping out. However, Laguna Seca is a different story.
The track is quite demanding for some reason, probably with the blind corners or something. The famous corner, The Corkscrew, is not really that hard. Once you find a good rhythm that doesn't get you to wipe out instantly, the corner will be like any other. However, they are some corner venues that can be a bit demanding. For one is the Rainey Curve. The sudden elevation gap there can make your car understeer a bit. And the kink before entering into the Rahal Straight, that corner can also be difficult if you accidentally go at over-speed. Still, the track is not as hardened as Nordschleife.