White Cars = Jaggy graphics?

[Hot4]

Is it just me or my crappy Palsonic 51cm TV, but white cars in GT3 appear to look more Jaggy. For example look at the white Mazda Rx7 FD)

What do you people think?

 

[Glut]

It's just you. Jaggy graphics are more a symptom of good tvs, low resolutions and no anit-aliasing. Maybe because it's white you may notice it against dark backgrounds, but other than that the different colours shouldn't make a difference.

 

[Solid Lifters]

It sounds a lot like color bleeding. If it happens with the color white, your TV's contrast ratio might have something to do with it too. Do you have a problem seeing dark objects? Like a black double breasted suit, can you see the lines of the jacket where the breast folds over?

Try adjusting your TV's color and brightness controls. That should help it make it better.

 

[Hot4]

Actaully, wait. I think its just the Mazda Rx7 FD. My other white cars look fine.

Maybe im just imagening things i dunno. Every time i look at that particluar car it looks jaggy. Everything other car looks fine. I actually noticed it on another TV too...just that car,

Ahh well dun matter
Do you guys play much? I been playing for a little while, im still crazy about it.

 

[Hot4]

Solid Lifters, I dont really have a problem seeing black colors.
What do you noramlly set the contrast too? I know all TV's are different so its hard to say i guess. What does the contrast do anyway?

I double checked with my other white cars and they all look fine. Its just for some reason the Rx7 FD (in white) Looks jaggy! pshhh and i really like that car in white! hehe. Dont worry about it. Maybe if you get a chance you could have another look the next time yoy play and let me know.

I was looking for a 100 Hz TV but they dont make them in 51cm from my understanding and thats the biggest i can get coz i dont have that much space in my bedroom.

 

[ving]

yeah been playin for ages Hot4, tho now I am playing wrc2.
welcome to the forum

 

[Hot4]

Thanks Ving
Its good to know that there are other GT3 freaks out there. Whats WRC2 like?
There are a few more car games comming out, but i havent really found one yet that compares to GT.

Project Gotham 2 is comming out in oz soon, and so is Need 4 Speed Underground.. that will be interesting. I was reading a bit about it and it seems like you can change a lot of visual things with each car.... Bodykits, stickers etc. Apparently there is even Nitro in the game, like in Fast and the Furious...hit a button and WOOOOSH!!

Have any of you guys heard ANYTHING about Nitro being used in GT4? That would be so mouth-drooling!

 

[Glut]

Lots of the people in this forum are allergic to the mention of N2O, so we avoid the subject.
Do a search

 

[Vasco]

WRC 2 is damn good... CMR 4 is also quite good...WRC 3 will be even better. Ah, the joys of rally games.

 

[TurboSmoke]

Originally posted by Hot4
Is it just me or my crappy Palsonic 51cm TV, but white cars in GT3 appear to look more Jaggy. For example look at the white Mazda Rx7 FD)

What do you people think?

thsi effect is called aliasing...or anti-aliasing....one or the other..theres not much you can do except perhaps tone down the contrast on your TV screen....

i play using a German Grundig 32" widescreen...superb quality and dosent suffer from the bleeding or jaggy colours....but i fine tune the video settings to eliminate thats...

 

[Hot4]

I think NOS in the game would be interesting. Take what you already have, keep it simple, dont let it take over the entire game. Maybe make it really expensive or hard to get? and only some, not all cars can use it. When you hit a button, maybe make the car simply go faster, the ass end slip-out (ifs its FR) and the rev gauge max out even more.

How mad would that be? You punch a button and the tail end of the car kicks out, loses a little traction and NOS kicks in as you fly up a straight.

 

[Hot4]

Why are people so against NOS being used in the game?

 

[Hot4]

Ok maybe this is not the right thread to be talking abouts this

 

[Street Fighter]

Holy generalizing with the whole NOS thing...

As for jagginess, I found that if I'm looking at a with car with black rims, I can see the actual construction of the rims, it's just black.

After fiddling around with the contrast and brightness I could see the rims.

The screen has always been a detriment to my gaming, be it console or PC gaming. I've gone through three $300 moniters cuz they couldn't display a high resolution for long periods of time.

 

[Pupik]

Another anti-(anti-)aliasing issue pops up when you use multiple methods of input from your PS2 to your TV: For example, if you plug the PS2 outputs directly into your TV's a/v inputs, then you'll get a better picture than if you plug the wires into your stereo deck and then then the TV, I've noticed.

Why does Nitrous Oxide/NOS gets the thumbs down in most any GT forum? Well, the prospect of "just pushing a button" to make up for inferior driving skills isn't very well respected. If you want to use it in real-life, then fine, but with the excpetion of non-professional drag racing contests, it's forbidden in just about any form of motorsports.

 

[Driftster]

No the LM cars alllll have Jaggy graphix...especially the Rx-7 LM car......it's whole back end is jaggy....The XR8 is fairly jaggy..And don't blame it on TV's i've tried playing it on my HOME TV and it had jaggies....Here in the DORM my roomate has a Samsung HDTV And it still has jaggies...

 

[Driftster]

Originally posted by pupik

Why does Nitrous Oxide/NOS gets the thumbs down in most any GT forum? Well, the prospect of "just pushing a button" to make up for inferior driving skills isn't very well respected. If you want to use it in real-life, then fine, but with the excpetion of non-professional drag racing contests, it's forbidden in just about any form of motorsports.

pupik i think you've missed quite a bit...For one, there ARE racing divisions in which nitrous oxide is allowed......The use of nitrous oxide is well known among professional drag racing, which is deffinatley a form of motorsports....The reason alot of race cars DON'T use nitrous, is because it distorts the power band. Say you use nitrous on a straight away to pass someone...You're just going to heat your breaks up 2 times as fast just to make the oncomming corner, so why use nitrous when good driving skill can make up for it..........Nitrous is a provider of added power, not a substitute for driving skill.

 

[DoZeRxXx]

Another problem with NOS added in. As soon as/if the AI passes you your going to hit it right then if your on a straight or not and slam into the wall causeing the AI to be way ahead of you. And there is giong to be some problems with hitting the wrong button from people using it so much.

 

[Vasco]

Originally posted by DoZeRxXx
Another problem with NOS added in. As soon as/if the AI passes you your going to hit it right then if your on a straight or not and slam into the wall causeing the AI to be way ahead of you. And there is giong to be some problems with hitting the wrong button from people using it so much.

And people could just use it to cheat and the game would become too much like Midnight Club II. No NOS. Unless this was an arcadey game (Which it really isn't).

 

[spike10h]

i think drag racing would be a nice addition in GT4. and mabe allowing NOS only in certain drag races.

 

[Street Fighter]

Originally posted by pupik
Another anti-(anti-)aliasing issue pops up when you use multiple methods of input from your PS2 to your TV: For example, if you plug the PS2 outputs directly into your TV's a/v inputs, then you'll get a better picture than if you plug the wires into your stereo deck and then then the TV, I've noticed.

Why does Nitrous Oxide/NOS gets the thumbs down in most any GT forum? Well, the prospect of "just pushing a button" to make up for inferior driving skills isn't very well respected. If you want to use it in real-life, then fine, but with the excpetion of non-professional drag racing contests, it's forbidden in just about any form of motorsports.

NOS is just a brand name. A brand name that everyone who has watched Fast & Furious associates with nitrous systems. Saying NOS is basically saying you know jack **** about cars (no offense, please don't let me stop you from learning about cars).

But seriously, that's like me calling all Korean, Japanese, and Chinese people 'Japanese'... so to say.

 

[Street Fighter]

Nitrous Oxide = NO2

NOS...

Get it?

You obviously do. I think they deserve the "CLEVAREST NAME IN STRETE RACING AWARD!!1"

[edit] For the record, The Fast & The Furious blew chunks harder than me at a keg party. [/edit]

 

[Pupik]

Gran Turismo is the Real Driving Simulator. Most professional racing series do not allow for nitrous oxide, thus it's not in the game. This isn't a street racing game, it's game modeled after more professional styles of motorsports, not pick-up races on the main drag of your home town.

No professional road-racing organizations have ever allowed Nitrous Oxide to be used in their racing cars. Not CART, FIA, USAC, nor IMSA, and not even NASCAR. Drag racing is another thing all together, and even the highest classes of NHRA and IHRA forbid the use of nitrous. Drag racing had it's chance, it was pulled from GT2, not enough people wanted it in GT3, so it's fair to say it's a non-issue for GT4.

Oh yeah, I don't notice a ton of jaggies, but sometimes long curves tend to appear funny due to the pixellated format of a TV screen.

 

[Driftster]

Originally posted by Street Fighter
Nitrous Oxide = NO2

NOS...

Get it?

You obviously do. I think they deserve the "CLEVAREST NAME IN STRETE RACING AWARD!!1"

[edit] For the record, The Fast & The Furious blew chunks harder than me at a keg party. [/edit]

it's N20 kiddo...
and for the record
Fast and the Furious was a good movie...because that's all it was...was a movie...if you didn't appreciate Any of the cars in the MOVIE...then you're obviously not an enthusiast, you're a antirice-fanboy.

 

[Driftster]

Originally posted by pupik
Gran Turismo is the Real Driving Simulator. Most professional racing series do not allow for nitrous oxide, thus it's not in the game. This isn't a street racing game, it's game modeled after more professional styles of motorsports, not pick-up races on the main drag of your home town.

No professional road-racing organizations have ever allowed Nitrous Oxide to be used in their racing cars. Not CART, FIA, USAC, nor IMSA, and not even NASCAR. Drag racing is another thing all together, and even the highest classes of NHRA and IHRA forbid the use of nitrous. Drag racing had it's chance, it was pulled from GT2, not enough people wanted it in GT3, so it's fair to say it's a non-issue for GT4.

Oh yeah, I don't notice a ton of jaggies, but sometimes long curves tend to appear funny due to the pixellated format of a TV screen.

as for you....I don't think you read my other post either....but...there are professional racing series that allot for N20...

 

[Vasco]

I'd like to ask this to the people with TV Tuners in their PCs...do you get jaggies on your PC when you play GT3 on the computer screen?