Why do people like this car

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Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
As for the low 9's yeah tons of cars can do it with 10K put into them but the skyline does it out of 2.6 liters while the "muscle cars" need 5 or more....so I'd rather run just as fast but spend less on gas too :P

Turbo engines can be good for fuel economy with power, but not a twin turbo system like the GT-R's with a 2.6L twin turbo I6, it's going to get horrible gas milage, just as bad as a large V8.

And with that line, you say it like the Skyline is better than American Muscle because they 'need' 5.0L+ engines to get similar performance to a 2.6L I6 TT. I just didn't like the tone of your... post. I don't know.
 
Actually, you said the GN was your American Skyline, I guess I mistook that as a comparison.

As for a comparison, though... You can say things like 'they're both 6 turbos' or 'they're both 2 door coupes', but when it comes down to it, they're completely different animals.

When you break it down, the GN is an 80s-ized car from the 70s, and the Skyline is, by comparison, a very high tech modern car.
 
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stock doesn't matter...Modded.....9's very very easily and very very legally....The last REAL sleeper...

but it was average running low 13's and said to run 12's on the right track at the right altitude.
 
Originally posted by Driftster
Yeah.....R34, pass emissions.......Or perhaps it's registered in a EMISSION FREE AREA....Didn';t think of that did you...

um no...the veilside GTR is registered and street legal in all of japan and can be driven just like a car you buy from the dealer.
 
Originally posted by mayorbill11
Turbo engines can be good for fuel economy with power, but not a twin turbo system like the GT-R's with a 2.6L twin turbo I6, it's going to get horrible gas milage, just as bad as a large V8.

And with that line, you say it like the Skyline is better than American Muscle because they 'need' 5.0L+ engines to get similar performance to a 2.6L I6 TT. I just didn't like the tone of your... post. I don't know.

It all depends on what boost levels you are running and how you drive....lol "tone of my post"

when I said the GN was my american skyline I meant that the skyline is my favorite japanese car and the GN is my favorite american car ;)
 
Originally posted by Driftster
oh and another thing Skyline GTR guy....
Right there

9 seconds..
STOCK BLOCK

and NOT AWD...

:rolleyes: I've been over this I meant that not many cars can do it...not that the skyline is the ONLY car that can do it....jeeze.
 
Originally posted by Driftster
You're speaking of which Veilside GTr...A LOT GTR..or the 1300HP GTR?

The veilside R-34 street drag skyline. 1360 Hp street legal, road registered...that one....8.612 @ 172.5 MPH on Radial tires over 500 hp per liter ;)
 
Well, low pressure turbos like in volvos and stuff can be very efficient, an I4 with the fuel economy of a 4 and the power of a 6 or whatever, but high pressure turbo, like in sports cars is just ridiculous gas milage.

and comparing the fuel economy of a skyline to an old muscle car is just ridiculous, for reasons such as carburetors and auto trannies with 3 gears and no overdrive gear(s). old, inefficiently tuned engines with crappy transmissions running on crappy gas.

You could compare the fuel economy of a skyline most fairly to the economy of a 6 speed F body, i'd say.

As for the Buick Grand National...

The Grand National was made in the mid 80s (83-87 i believe 83 didn't have a turbo, though). Identical to the Buick Regal, the Grand National was a turbo Buick Regal with black paint. You could get a normal regal turbo, T type or turbo T in any other colour, or a luxury regal limited with a turbo... to sum it up, you could get pretty much any 1984-1987 Buick Regal (and a few other buicks) with a 3.8L single turbo (intercooled in 86 and 87) V6. You could also get the turbo engine in the FWD Buick Riviera luxury cruiser.

Buick started playing with turbocharging in the late 70s as a way to get their V6 engines to make V8 power with V6 fuel economy. The early carbed turbo engines of the late 70s and early 80s made nearly 180hp and had horrible turbo lag and detonation problems, but they were a start. in the late 70s/early 80s in buicks lineup, you could get a turbo in pretty much any midsize to large car (regal, lesabre, park avenue, riviera).

The G body platform itself is an 'oldie but a goodie', 70s technology and chassis design, not too heavy, fairly rigid, full frame body on frame design, A arms in front with a solid rear axle. A midsize platform, which the following cars were based on from, not all at the same time, though.

1978-1988, A/G body platform (was originally the A body, switched to G body designation when A was taken over by the FWD celebrity/ciera in '82)

Chevrolet:
Monte Carlo/SS (2 door)
Malibu (2 door/4 door/wagon)
ElCamino (2 door pickup) (and GMC cabellero?)

Pontiac:
LeMans (4 door/2 door) Lemans Safari (wagon)
Bonneville (4 door)
Grand Prix (2 door)

Buick:
Regal/T Type/Turbo-T/Limited (2/4/wagon)
Century (4/wagon?/3 and 5 door hatch)
Grand National (2 door)

Oldsmobile:
Cutlass Supreme/Calais/Salon/442 (2/4/wagon/3 and 5 door hatch)

When you come down to it, the Grand National is a Turbocharged Personal Coupe based on a family car platform that has 16"s, fender flares, and looks kick ass cool. Isn't that basically what a GT-R is? a turbo 2 door family car.
 
Originally posted by LancerEVO Boy
Why do alot of people love the Nissan Skyline?
Cause we can't just go to the corner car lot and get one.
It's a matter of exclusivity.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
:rolleyes: I've been over this I meant that not many cars can do it...not that the skyline is the ONLY car that can do it....jeeze.


did he put 10,000 into it? From the looks of his mods...I doubt it..
 
Originally posted by mayorbill11
So he has the 200hp non-intercooled version?

yep...Although I think he has done several modifications to it. I'm not sure what but both him and his dad are big car guys so I'm sure whatever they did was something good.
 
Originally posted by Driftster
did he put 10,000 into it? From the looks of his mods...I doubt it..

So who cares? I'd still get a skyline becasue thier more of a well rounded car. It can do both straight line acceleration and tear up the circuit. Power isn't anything without handling.
 
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