Why do people suicide ?

[Sohail]

I'm not quite sure but things like Clinical Depression raise the chances of suicide. Life is too good to lose!

 

[TheDrummingKING]

In some countries deaths are mourned, in some countries they are celebrated,
how people cope and react to death very much depends on their outlook on life, it doesn't automatically mean you don't care if you are not sad, just that you accept death as a fact of life, and are happy to remember the person's life, and not think of them just in death.

Alright, makes sense. But what about with relationships? It's the same with that, I never feel sad. Well, I never really feel sad with anything that most people would.

Does the "I accept that it's just a part of life" still apply to those?💡

 

[MatskiMonk]

Alright, makes sense. But what about with relationships? It's the same with that, I never feel sad. Well, I never really feel sad with anything that most people would.

Does the "I accept that it's just a part of life" still apply to those?💡

Well, don't rule out the possibility that you are a Vulcan 💡

Seriously though, there are two aspects: How much you can take, and how fast you can recover. It could be that you can take a lot of punishment, and you recover from it pretty quickly. Personally, I can take a lot, but I hang on to it for too long - I still drink to heartbreak from 10 years ago.


.. at least, that is the way I see it, I might be wrong.

 

[Blitz187]

My condolences to the OP for his loss. Its always hard to lose someone close to you.

I'm not being unsympathetic, and I'm not a psychiatrist, but I have some personal experience with this kind of stuff and I firmly believe the most important things are to talk to somebody about your problems, they are not likely to give you any answers, reasons or solutions, but hearing yourself verbalise your problems and getting them out there can be a massive weight off your mind.

Do not focus solely on your problems, when people are upset/depressed they tend to focus on nothing else in their life, and they never see it if there is any good stuff. Focus on CONSTRUCTIVE change. Try to keep things in perspective.

Accept that it will be difficult to change things, but the only other solutions are destructive.

^ This is genius. Exactly what I wanted to say. I am one of the people who completely negates suicide. It is NOT an option for me and I dont understand it one bit. Ive been at the bottom of the pit, I've lost ones I love, I've lost GFs which I liked very much. But this has all made me stronger in the end, not weakend me.

When I was in my younger years (pre 20s-Early 20s) I was continuously getting myself into dumb situations. I was building debt, messing about, not doing well with college and much more. This all caught up to me at a certain point and exploded in my face sending me to the bottom of the pit. I was in a rut, I didnt know what to do until, one day, I just sat back, looked at the situation and realised what was going on. In other words, realisation, I didnt even think about suicide. Once I knew what I had fallen into I did everything in my power to change that. Nowadays I will never let such things happen anymore and I talk about my problems with people close to me. Talking about your problems is a great way to relieve sad or morbid feelings. Its just a pity that some people dont realise this because it could save them from taking their life in some cases.

 

[kikie]

I'm not quite sure but things like Clinical Depression raise the chances of suicide. Life is too good to lose!

Correct!

Hear hear!

 

[LizMcQueen]

I think people who commit suicide is because they are very desperate and can't see another solution.

Thinking about suicide, what reasons would force me to commit suicide? initially the answer was there is no reason, (almost) everything has a solution, you only need find it, but after watching the news where a driver ran over and killed a woman and her two children in a crosswalk, my view about suicide changed and in cases like that, I could understand it. Could you live with something like that in your head? neither can I.

 

[G.T.Ace]

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I don't say people who commit suicide are selfish, neither would I ever say that to someone who tells me he wants to kill himself. But I don't have respect for someone, who brings sorrow to other people, "just" because of personal problems. Of course it's a complicated, psychological thing, but that doesn't give that person the right to "hurt" other people he, or she, didn't even know. I know a lot of stories were engine drivers and passengers had very hard depressions themself, after their train hit someone. The lifes from these people are often completely ruined.

Don't get me wrong, I was already often in the situation, thinking about doing it some day and I know that you cannot really denunciate someone who did it, but it's just something no one talks about and I find that pretty sad.

 

[Ardius]

Its not a "right", who said anything about having a "right" to do it? Suicide is, I believe (I'm probably wrong), an illegal act, so no one has a right to commit suicide.
I'm not justifying suicide or telling people to respect the act of suicide, but I am in complete disagreement that its always a display of selfishness of that person with no care of thought for anyone else involved. It suggests to me that people just don't understand the mentality of suicide.

To get to the point of suicide, you have to be in the deepest, darkest, most lonely pit of self-dispair. To expect someone in this state of mind to think of others and act selflessly is ludicrous. While it helps to remind people who are feeling depressed of this or to dissuade people from suicide, I don't think its right to paint all those who decide to commit suicide as essentially villains.

I think we need to seperate two things here:
Suicide, is a selfish act. Its caused by serious personal pain and anguish.
A person who commits suicide is not necessarily a selfish person simply for commiting suicide, the act in itself is selfish, of course it is, its caused by someone incapable of thinking of others at that moment in time. But if anyone else experienced the same experience, it would be difficult for them to make a different decision, choosing the act is not selfish, because there is no other choice.

 

[G.T.Ace]

...but I am in complete disagreement that its always a display of selfishness of that person with no care of thought for anyone else involved.

Well, the person does not care for other people in this very moment, of course you can't really blame him/her in this moment of course.

I think we need to seperate two things here:
Suicide, is a selfish act. Its caused by serious personal pain and anguish.
A person who commits suicide is not necessarily a selfish person simply for commiting suicide, the act in itself is selfish, of course it is, its caused by someone incapable of thinking of others at that moment in time. But if anyone else experienced the same experience, it would be difficult for them to make a different decision, choosing the act is not selfish, because there is no other choice.

I agree, but there are still many ways to commit suicide (god that "sounds" so horrible, sorry) which don't involve innocent people getting "hurt" (mentally), except of course for the persons who love him or her anyway.

 

[Ardius]

True, but from what I have experienced, when people decide to commit suicide, it tends to be when they are in a situation where it is easy to make the choice. In other words, they decide suicide might be an option when they are already somewhere where they can do it, not the other way around.
Those people that plan it all out before hand, are pretty careless though I agree. Though, as I said, its difficult to call someone who is in an extreme state of self-pity as any more careless than they already are.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

So, I guess this could be asked in here. I don't feel sadness. Like, I don't get sad from anything. My grandparents (grandfather and grandmother) died a month back and only a month apart. I wasn't affected by it at all really. Felt no sadness, no remorse, nothing of the sort. Then about 8 months before that two of my friends commited suicide not that far apart. Again the same about not getting sad, etc. However everything else about me is completely normal.

So what, I'm semi-sociopathic?

I can understand this guy. Once you lose someone and recover extremely quickly, it's hard to be hurt again. I lost my Grandma on my Dad's side last September. Did I mourn lightly? Sure. Then my Father passed earlier this year. Did I mourn heavily? Hell, of course. Almost anyone would. But 2 days later, I was at a funeral, just fine. Day after, I was in school. Couple months later I spoke to my Student Council (we were doing a Penny Drive for people who lost parents; coincidentally, my Dad had a big jar of pennies, so I donated them. When I spoke on how we should press for donation, I teared up a bit towards the end. But for someone who can get through it, it's easy. I can honestly speak with the straightest face about it, and be like "yes, my Father is dead." It's all in how you see it. I saw it as "there's nothing I can do."

Funny enough, these weren't the days of my depression, yet it's probably the single-handed worst thing to happen in my life. I don't know.

 

[Submerged]

an illegal act.

In Britain, it is considered an illegal act to kill yourself or get someone to kill yourself EVEN if you've given them permission to do so (to my knowledge as a layperson in Britain).

The thing I don't yet understand is, if you've successful killed yourself, you cannot be tried. But if you've TRIED to kill yourself, you're looked after at the hospital to recover, but then released into the public. Rarely, if ever, tried for "committing sucide" to cause danger to other people.

 

[Akmuq]

That's such a sad story. I feel terrible for the girlfreind. She would be scarred for life.

 

[vfrmaverick]

I can understand this guy. Once you lose someone and recover extremely quickly, it's hard to be hurt again. I lost my Grandma on my Dad's side last September. Did I mourn lightly? Sure. Then my Father passed earlier this year. Did I mourn heavily? Hell, of course. Almost anyone would. But 2 days later, I was at a funeral, just fine. Day after, I was in school. Couple months later I spoke to my Student Council (we were doing a Penny Drive for people who lost parents; coincidentally, my Dad had a big jar of pennies, so I donated them. When I spoke on how we should press for donation, I teared up a bit towards the end. But for someone who can get through it, it's easy. I can honestly speak with the straightest face about it, and be like "yes, my Father is dead." It's all in how you see it. I saw it as "there's nothing I can do."

Funny enough, these weren't the days of my depression, yet it's probably the single-handed worst thing to happen in my life. I don't know.

Similar story, lost my first brother 2 days after him being born, on the week of 9/11 while my dad was a pilot based out of JFK. I think I used up my emotions that month enough for the rest of my life. Ive seen many things, murders etc, lost many close friends from different times of my life this summer and most of my relatives are either droping like flies or bankrupt. I should get into wallstreet or something.

 

[Louishino]

I've been reading what all of you GTpers have to say, i think i am getting my answers now, i guess the true reason to suicide is always vague.

 

[Speedy Samurai]

Its not a "right", who said anything about having a "right" to do it? Suicide is, I believe (I'm probably wrong), an illegal act, so no one has a right to commit suicide.

And in some countries free speech is illegal. Does that mean the people in those countries don't have the right to free speech?

while I think suicide is a last resort and usually undertaken during a state of total emotional weakness, I can understand why people do it.

If you think you're life won't change for the better, ending it does seem like a solution.

And for those who say suicide is not the solution to your problems, you are incorrect. It is a solution. Just not a good one.

 

[Southend Rage]

I, as a short, quick messager, probably don't find myself in the right place in this thread.

However, I must say it upsets me extremely that some people cannot understand why some people end their lives.

Some even think it's something to look down upon, in great disgust....

Why, I must ask, do they think this? It's society, as a whole. See, some people that suicide, are treated as 'Over-sensitive' or 'Selfish' or 'Thoughtless' or simply, have mental health problems.

Their families may hear on the news, people talking about suicide, of course, it seems like taboo that they would even go anywhere near saying it's an acceptable act.
This is because, by law of course, it would go against everything the enforcers out there have put down on paper. Just imagine it, it seems ridiculous if the news readers don't take it badly, right?

People, by law, have their rights. The apparent illegality, of suicide is a right taken, to the greatest extent.

Personally, if a good friend of mine commited suicide & I heard someone talking about them in even the slightest down-talking manner, I might just end myself too..... Think about it, you would be upset incredibly!

Basically, what I was trying to say, the people that don't understand 'suicide' really need to get some new angles on life. It's not all easy you know. You might even find yourself happier than you allready are!

The problem is, people who try too hard, tend to die hard. Extreme effort for eventual nothing tends to exhaust the soul in such a way that it can lead people to suicide.

Merry Christmas, and god bless all that didn't make it this year.

 

[Sureboss]

I've been reading what all of you GTpers have to say, i think i am getting my answers now, i guess the true reason to suicide is always vague.

It's always difficult, sometimes impossible to find answers. Depression is something you cannot understand unless you've had it, it's not something you want to understand imo. You cannot apply logic to it, as there is no logic in the process of suicide. Panic and anxiety attacks are horrific things to try and cope with and require serious medical attention, unfortunately this isn't always readily available or adequate, particularly given mental illness is still a taboo in most of society.

I think all you can do is try not to blame his suicide on anything, that may sound odd given the rather obvious factor involved, maybe do a bit more research on the web about depression to attempt to understand what is happening, both from a chemical and personal perspective.

 

[Wolfe]

In Britain, it is considered an illegal act to kill yourself or get someone to kill yourself EVEN if you've given them permission to do so (to my knowledge as a layperson in Britain).

The thing I don't yet understand is, if you've successful killed yourself, you cannot be tried. But if you've TRIED to kill yourself, you're looked after at the hospital to recover, but then released into the public. Rarely, if ever, tried for "committing sucide" to cause danger to other people.

From my understanding of the "legal aspect" of suicide, the main reason it's illegal in many countries is to allow law enforcement to intervene, and also to "force" you into a place where you can find help, if necessary. On its own, "suicide is illegal" seems like a ridiculous thing (my first reaction to that fact was incredulity), but the laws pretty much exist for practicality's sake.

 

[CaliBoy1990]

Recently a friend of mine jumped off a 14th floor of his condo. He killed himself because of love. He used facebook for his final 45 minute countdown, i swear i thought he was joking.

I am not trolling, here's the link on our national newspaper's website. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/12/19/nation/7647966&sec=nation

Anyways, i'm still a little traumatize but what he did, i sometimes wonder, what would make a person suicide ? He did because of love which he had for 4 months. Would that be enough to kill a man ?

Why do people suicide ?

This was his last message posted on is blog to his girlfriend. Its all translated. Original Note was in Chinese Language

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ps: don't go hating on my friend guys, he's already dead, some of you might just wanna say he is stupid or a coward, well yea, just keep it to yourself, i've had enough of that.

I'm so terribly sorry you had to go thru that and only a few days before XMas too............

 

[marchi]

That's such a sad story. I feel terrible for the girlfreind. She would be scarred for life.

Which is the **** that pisses me off about the cowards that take the easy route. Sure you may have mental issues, but the world does not revolve around you. I have very little sympathy for people that take their own lives.