Gear ratios have no effect on a car's PP rating because PD specifically disabled that from affecting them. Do you not remember the Tomahawk exploit days?
Yes, I am aware they used to, but they don't now, therefore the cars acceleration does not impact the cars PP rating, only which gearbox is installed.
Why? This is a discussion board, not a "my opinion is right so I don't need to explain" board.
Of course it does, because you can shorten or lengthen the ratios to your hearts content, altering the cars acceleration performance in the process, and the PP score will not budge. Which gearbox is installed changes the score, not the ratios themselves. Therfore, its the part not the actual acceleration influencing the score.
There are 5 different gearbox options in the game. The car's original, close-ratio transmission low, close-ratio transmission high, fully customizable manual and fully customizable racing. Every installation changes the car's pp value... for a fact.
Yes it does, if I increase or decrease a cars acceleration by modifying the gear ratio's the cars PP does not change. Do you dispute this fact? Ergo, the cars acceleration does not affect the PP score of a car. When it comes to gears, no more than what gearbox is installed impacts the cars PP, this isn't reflective of how fast the car accelerates as you can install a racing gearbox and stretch those gears out wide or really narrow them and it makes no difference whatsoever.... For a fact.
You are increasing/decreasing the cars downforce, the byproduct of which is better/worse cornering at various speeds, faster/slower acceleration and higher/lower top speeds, amongst other things. We can eliminate acceleration as a direct factor into a cars PP by simply recognising that adjusting it directly by way of changing gear ratios, does nothing to the PP score. If the cars acceleration did figure into the PP score, then how would increasing the cars acceleration with good ratios not result in an increased PP score? Or likewise, worsening it by poor ratios not result in a decreased score?
Interesting idea, hard to test though since the PP formulas have been tweaked from update to update. Even if someone had records of how much extra/less PP a specific transmissiom added to a certain car at the stock ratios prior to the update where gear ratios no longer impacted PP, it likely wouldn’t match the same increase/decrease adding the same gearbox to the same car now.
Or maybe , Just maybe the game just ignores your gear ratios and test it with the default ratio. PD clearly designed the simulation to test acceleration and due to us exploiting just disabled the test for OUR custom ratios but as noted use the baseline preset to test it. The other guy is right .
Let’s for a moment assume that you are correct. Then two cars with the same PP should be equal in performance, right?
No, because PD especially decided to remove this calculation because they didnt find a way to fix the flaws with gear ratio PP calculations.
You know, I think I have been misunderstanding what you were getting at all this time. Correct me if I'm wrong but, you're talking specifically about the Acceleration Performance data on the left of the tuning screen which doesn't change based on your gear ratio's (which is flawed as heck as a result). I was thining you were refrering the tests using the cars actual acceleration performance, not the arbitary numbers, which are incorrect as soon as you change the cars settings.
No, I’m not confusing the transmissions. I only ever use the stock or fully customizable racing transmissions. I’ve never attempted to use any of the others. There are lots of instances where I’ve seen the fully customizable racing trans lower the PP value of a car, though usually only by several PP, maybe 10, not 35 or 68. This is true in both road cars and racing cars that I’ve seen when tuning my cars.
I’m certainly jumping into this late but a quick observation on the one point of the racing transmission having a lower PP value when added vs others, I believe what you described is due to the racing transmission also needing the additional racing clutch/flywheel to get power out of it to simulate real racing. Same as if you put in a racing transmission in a stock car, the stock clutch/flywheel will hinder its performance in real life.
I only run the racing clutch/flywheel except on a few cars that I dedicate for the super low PP restrictions where you have to be VERY selective with the few upgrades you can make.
