Why is every rap video identical?Music

[Duke]

Originally posted by Zero
and whats the problem with that buddy? Do you like stock looking vehicles? If so you are pretty damn lame. Cars with rims are just like anything else in this world, they are something to spend money on to make someone different from another. Quit being ignorant.

The problem is that they expect me to be impressed about the fact that they have all this money to waste on idiotic crap.

It's still idiotic crap. It's just expensive idiotic crap. Big freakin hairy deal.

The thing that makes it so disgusting is to see the poor schmucks who kill themselves trying to live up to that. You see some guy who lives in a cockroach motel, probably doesn't have $50 in the bank at the end of every month, paying on time for a $2000 set of rims and a $200 pair of sneakers.

Idiotic. All of it.

 

[ving]

Why is every rap video identical?

translation: Hi, my name is Neon and I don't like rap.

Hey, I'm with ya there. rap really is crap.

 

[Shadow]

Originally posted by neon_duke
The problem is that they expect me to be impressed about the fact that they have all this money to waste on idiotic crap.

It's still idiotic crap. It's just expensive idiotic crap. Big freakin hairy deal.

The thing that makes it so disgusting is to see the poor schmucks who kill themselves trying to live up to that. You see some guy who lives in a cockroach motel, probably doesn't have $50 in the bank at the end of every month, paying on time for a $2000 set of rims and a $200 pair of sneakers.

Idiotic. All of it.

at least the idiot will die looking rich as hell


wasting all your time on something you see on a music video PERIOD is completely stupid. however, id rather have a $200 pair of shoes on than no shoes.

to be real honest with you i really dont see the point of music videos in general. this goes for rock, metal, etc videos as well. the S*** hurts my ears already, no need to watch it.👎

^thats pretty ignorant and pretty much what you say about rap, rnb, etc duke. think about it. try to have at least A LITTLE understanding of rap before you bash it to hell.

 

[emad]

Originally posted by Shadow
to be real honest with you i really dont see the point of music videos in general. this goes for rock, metal, etc videos as well. the S*** hurts my ears already, no need to watch it.👎

^thats pretty ignorant and pretty much what you say about rap, rnb, etc duke. think about it. try to have at least A LITTLE understanding of rap before you bash it to hell.

Agreed

I listen to rap...hell, most of what I listen to is rap. But then, I DO try to check out other styles too. That's how I found trance, jazz, classical, Santana, Hendrix, & Van Halen.

Still...no matter WHAT style of music it is, the videos always suck - plus the videos mean that you HAVE to look good as well or you won't get as many sales because the mtv watching crowd won't even know who the hell you are. Look @ The Last Emperor or Thievery Corporation for example - they get no publicity whatsoever - you will NEVER hear them on radio or see any ads for their stuff. Even then, still both are some of the favourites for their genres for the people that have heard their stuff (Rap for Emperor, acid-jazz for Thievery).

edit...
Apparently, Thievery Corporation DID have a video with their new album Richest Man in Babylon, but I think the video was meant more as a political statement or something because it was EXTREMELY different from ANYTHING i've ever seen for any music vid of any genre.

 

[Shadow]

Originally posted by emad
Agreed

I listen to rap...hell, most of what I listen to is rap. But then, I DO try to check out other styles too. That's how I found trance, jazz, classical, Santana, Hendrix, & Van Halen.

Still...no matter WHAT style of music it is, the videos always suck - plus the videos mean that you HAVE to look good as well or you won't get as many sales because the mtv watching crowd won't even know who the hell you are. Look @ The Last Emperor or Thievery Corporation for example - they get no publicity whatsoever - you will NEVER hear them on radio or see any ads for their stuff. Even then, still both are some of the favourites for their genres for the people that have heard their stuff (Rap for Emperor, acid-jazz for Thievery).

edit...
Apparently, Thievery Corporation DID have a video with their new album Richest Man in Babylon, but I think the video was meant more as a political statement or something because it was EXTREMELY different from ANYTHING i've ever seen for any music vid of any genre.

EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN!!!👍


couldnt have said it better myself man

 

[GilesGuthrie]

I think that music videos in general are fairly poor. They seem to have little original style or content, and often have no basis in the song itself.

My own views on MTV have been well-publicised here, but I think that they are to blame for the demise of the music video in general. The problem is that with there being so many different music channels now, and MTV having split into all the genre channels, there is no single place where an artist should get their video played. There's no cohesion to the viewer base. This has caused a widespread drop in the budgets available to do the work. All the bling is not paid for by the artist or record company, it's all borrowed, from companies trying to make a buck off the image being portrayed by the artist.

Plus, there's a general fear in the record industry, and that has led to this ultra-conservatism, where we're inundated with countless cretinous pop bands, each of them bottom-feeding the dregs of creativity left by those artists that actually can make some decent original music. Trouble is, as soon as one record company scores a hit with an artist, all the other companies go into a feeding frenzy, trying to find exact copies of that artist, reasoning that what works for their rivals will work for them.

So Duke, there you have it. My take on the reason why every rap video is identical.

 

[sliderulz]

Recipie for successful rap video

1. 5 brothaz in clothing 5 sizes too big with approx 25 kilograms of gold around each of their necks

2. 20 bikini clad, ass shakin *****es and ho's

3. A Mercedes S, SL, CL -- BMW 7, 5 (with chrome rims), Z8 -- Ferrari 360 Spider (Black with chrome rims) -- Escalade, Navigator H2 (all with 80" Chrome rims) -- or other exotic car worth more than 100 thousand

4. The word **** about 50 times

5. Throw in a few rude comments about peoples mothers.

6. Couple of 9's, Glocks, Sawn Offs, Uzi's or AK's

Stir well, add a pinch of talent

Congrats you've just made a rap video

 

[Ghost C]

Yeah, except guns aren't allowed in music videos anymore. Neither are cusswords. And they wear platinum, not gold. Not to mention 80% of the rap videos where people are, holy ****, get this - dancing (Why does everyone make fun of people dancing in music videos? I'll never understand that one) - the women are fully clothed.

Try harder next time, please.

 

[sliderulz]

Jeezus ok

 

[Duke]

Why am I being called "ignorant"? I watched rap videos back when people knew who Snoop Dogg was, which means about 7 years ago. They were almost all the same: a fancy house, fancy cars,lots of jewelry, lots of dancing chicks with big hooters. Fast forward seven years: exactly the same thing, by whoever the rapper-du-jour is. The only difference is that now insetad of a '63 Impala convertible with hydraulics, gold-plated trim, and reverse-offset wire wheels, it's an Escalade XLT with 26" spinners. Seven years is a long damn time.

Actually, there's one other variant of the rap video: the stage-set one. Always shot from low-level cameras mounted on the floor in front of the artist, often with a wide-angle lens. Always with flash-fade view changes, where an image (usually of slow-mo dancing chicks) is flashed on the screen, then fades to black, to be replaced 2 seconds later by another image, which fades and flashes to something different. The background is glittery, usually silver, and looks like the interior of a disco on a space station. So, OK, that makes two ideas they've come up with in 10 years.

Live-performance videos are one thing: a band on stage is a band on stage. They may be lame, too, but there is a certain set layout and production design that is dictated by that type of video. If it's a band or a rap act onstage makes no difference; that's not what I'm arguing about.

There are hundreds and thousands of crappy pop music videos too. All European metal band videos look the same, no question. I'm not argunin that point either.

It also has nothing to do with the fact that I don't like most rap. In point of fact, I do like some (though I guess it's more hiphop than actual rap). I'm merely talking about the total sameness of the videos, and the image projected. And the hysterical insistence that each rap artist is an individual. It's just time for them to move on a little.

 

[Zero]

Originally posted by Shadow
at last!! somebody who sees things like i do:tup:

Thats because we both like the same things.

Speaking of dancing....if anyone has seen the Three Six Mafia video for Ridin' Spinners you'd notice at the end of it when Crunchy Black is dancing, its great man.

 

[Shadow]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Why am I being called "ignorant"? I watched rap videos back when people knew who Snoop Dogg was, which means about 7 years ago. They were almost all the same: a fancy house, fancy cars,lots of jewelry, lots of dancing chicks with big hooters. Fast forward seven years: exactly the same thing, by whoever the rapper-du-jour is. The only difference is that now insetad of a '63 Impala convertible with hydraulics, gold-plated trim, and reverse-offset wire wheels, it's an Escalade XLT with 26" spinners. Seven years is a long damn time.

Actually, there's one other variant of the rap video: the stage-set one. Always shot from low-level cameras mounted on the floor in front of the artist, often with a wide-angle lens. Always with flash-fade view changes, where an image (usually of slow-mo dancing chicks) is flashed on the screen, then fades to black, to be replaced 2 seconds later by another image, which fades and flashes to something different. The background is glittery, usually silver, and looks like the interior of a disco on a space station. So, OK, that makes two ideas they've come up with in 10 years.

Live-performance videos are one thing: a band on stage is a band on stage. They may be lame, too, but there is a certain set layout and production design that is dictated by that type of video. If it's a band or a rap act onstage makes no difference; that's not what I'm arguing about.

There are hundreds and thousands of crappy pop music videos too. All European metal band videos look the same, no question. I'm not argunin that point either.

It also has nothing to do with the fact that I don't like most rap. In point of fact, I do like some (though I guess it's more hiphop than actual rap). I'm merely talking about the total sameness of the videos, and the image projected. And the hysterical insistence that each rap artist is an individual. It's just time for them to move on a little.

lets just forget the whole genre-bashing thing and get right to the point then:


MOST MUSIC VIDEOS IN GENERAL SUCK:tdown:

nowadays its just too damm hard to find a decent music video

i rest my case

EDIT:

Originally posted by sliderulz
Recipie for successful rap video

1. 5 brothaz in clothing 5 sizes too big with approx 25 kilograms of gold around each of their necks

2. 20 bikini clad, ass shakin *****es and ho's

3. A Mercedes S, SL, CL -- BMW 7, 5 (with chrome rims), Z8 -- Ferrari 360 Spider (Black with chrome rims) -- Escalade, Navigator H2 (all with 80" Chrome rims) -- or other exotic car worth more than 100 thousand

4. The word **** about 50 times

5. Throw in a few rude comments about peoples mothers.

6. Couple of 9's, Glocks, Sawn Offs, Uzi's or AK's

Stir well, add a pinch of talent

Congrats you've just made a rap video

care to do an example like that for another genre?

ok now im done

 

[Ghost C]

On another note, to expand upon my earlier rant, every rap video is not the same. Look at 50 Cent's new video. There's not a single "ho shaking her ass" in it. No dancing. No low angle camera shots.

Anyway, as it's been said a few times before, most videos from every genre are basically the same. The only video that I like to watch is the old Ruff Ryder's Anthem video, because it's been the only good music video I've ever seen. Ever.

 

[Klonie Gun]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Why am I being called "ignorant"? I watched rap videos back when people knew who Snoop Dogg was, which means about 7 years ago. They were almost all the same: a fancy house, fancy cars,lots of jewelry, lots of dancing chicks with big hooters. Fast forward seven years: exactly the same thing, by whoever the rapper-du-jour is. The only difference is that now insetad of a '63 Impala convertible with hydraulics, gold-plated trim, and reverse-offset wire wheels, it's an Escalade XLT with 26" spinners. Seven years is a long damn time.

Actually, there's one other variant of the rap video: the stage-set one. Always shot from low-level cameras mounted on the floor in front of the artist, often with a wide-angle lens. Always with flash-fade view changes, where an image (usually of slow-mo dancing chicks) is flashed on the screen, then fades to black, to be replaced 2 seconds later by another image, which fades and flashes to something different. The background is glittery, usually silver, and looks like the interior of a disco on a space station. So, OK, that makes two ideas they've come up with in 10 years.

Live-performance videos are one thing: a band on stage is a band on stage. They may be lame, too, but there is a certain set layout and production design that is dictated by that type of video. If it's a band or a rap act onstage makes no difference; that's not what I'm arguing about.

There are hundreds and thousands of crappy pop music videos too. All European metal band videos look the same, no question. I'm not argunin that point either.

It also has nothing to do with the fact that I don't like most rap. In point of fact, I do like some (though I guess it's more hiphop than actual rap). I'm merely talking about the total sameness of the videos, and the image projected. And the hysterical insistence that each rap artist is an individual. It's just time for them to move on a little.

I agree with Duke here. Every part of rap music is just the same, old, cliched crap, and what is even worse is that they put expensive stuff in their videos just to like them. What is that? That is such a disgraceful thing to do. And whoever thinks Duke or others ignorant to rap will be proven wrong

 

[Ghost C]

Not every part of rap music is the same, get your head out of your ass.

After watching nothing but videos (And actually paying attention for once) for a few days, I've realized that a good 50-60% of rap videos share alot of the same basic elements (No, they're not all identical, or even close, stop trying to push it off like that, too), but at the same time, every other genre of music is the same way.

Pick which genre of music you like, pots, then go call some kettles black.

 

[Klonie Gun]

Well, as true to my nature, I, indeed, like rock, metal, and electronica. The only "true" rappers I give credit to are Cypress Hill and the Beastie Boys.

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

Originally posted by Zero
and whats the problem with that buddy? Do you like stock looking vehicles? If so you are pretty damn lame. Cars with rims are just like anything else in this world, they are something to spend money on to make someone different from another. Quit being ignorant.

Yes, You're an absolute genious, You've come to the conclusion of my being ignorant becasue I would prefer to see a stock car versus some supercar 99.999% of people who watch those videos could never afford. I also applaud the fact that you think people put rims on their cars to look "different". If you opened you're eyes you would notice that all these people aren't different, they're exactly the same as every other guy out there with chrome rims. If liking performance over "bling" makes me lame then I'm damn proud to be lame. Maybee you are the ignorant one because you don't seem to realize that some people have better things to do than blow 3,000 on a set of rims

 

[Ghost C]

You've never taken into consideration that they'd rather blow $3,000 on rims than $3,000 on performance modifications, have you? Either way you look, it'd be $3,000 on a car. Not everyone has to like what you like, or do what you do.

 

[emad]

does it matter what they use in the vids? most of the jewelry & cars are RENTED because the musicians would go broke faster than MC Hammer did if they chose to buy everything they used. Damn I miss Hammer .

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

Originally posted by Ghost C
You've never taken into consideration that they'd rather blow $3,000 on rims than $3,000 on performance modifications, have you? Either way you look, it'd be $3,000 on a car. Not everyone has to like what you like, or do what you do.

Actually I did take that into consideration, I'm not the one who is calling people lame.

 

[emad]

think about it this way Skyline. It's a rented car in a music video.
1) It's a music video - cosmetics over performance (look @ the disgusting rice in 2f2f)
2) Who's going to know that the rapper has a 1000 hp engine in the car he's driving? Nobody.
3) I love lowriders - Low-n-Slow baby, low n frickin slow

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

I'm more of a raw display of power kinda guy, massive burnouts, high speed runs etc.

 

[Ghost C]

Take a look at the Big Tymers video for "Get Your Roll On", then. They do all kinds of crazy **** in sports cars in that video. They have a new video out where they're doing that kind of stuff, too, I just don't remember what it is. Gangsta Girl, I think.

 

[ExigeEvan]

most rap music videos show them in a car simply because tehy want to be seen as 'street'. They want to show they are still pounding the streets like everyone else.

Rock music normally showed them on stage going mad, cause that is where they belonged.

Newer rock bands show themselves in a room simply beacause its kinda hard to play your instrument and dance/walk/ride in a car etc.

dance music videos are in clubs, cause that is where tehy belong.

So as you may/may not under stand, but everyone is trying to show that tehy are still in their old 'habitat' and not living in beverly hills in the mansion with gold and diamond taps and 20 plus bedrooms.

 

[Rossell]

So rap videos should belong in a run down building with graffitti and loadsa decks and speakers because thats where their recorded.

See it?