Why isn't the Lamborghini Countach a premium car?

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Why aren't lots of cars premium and some are?

Especially things like the Countach, Veyron, XJ220, AE86, GT40, GT (No Stripe), SLR (not the 19in. wheel option), Zonda, Supra, other Mustang GT ('05), other MX5s, other NSX's, all the 3000GTs/GTOs, that should be premium

And things like the AZ-1 and Kubelwagen that are the last things we'd want premium
 
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Why aren't lots of cars premium and some are?

Especially things like the Countach, Veyron, XJ220, AE86, GT40, GT (No Stripe), SLR (not the 19in. wheel option), Zonda, Supra, other Mustang GT ('05), other MX5s, other NSX's, all the 3000GTs/GTOs, that should be premium

And things like the AZ-1 and Kubelwagen that are the last things we'd want premium

I didn't know you spoke on behalf of GTPlanet. Some people (me being one of them) like cars like the AZ-1 and Kubelwagen because they add variety to a 'real driving simulator'. For example, once tuned the AZ-1 is a drifting beast. =P
Using your logic I could just say 'Why isn't the Daihatsu Midget premium?'

@OP: Not being rude, but there's no need to make a brand new thread just because 'xxxx' car isn't Premium or in the game. Use the Feedback section to se if people agree or not.
 
Q. Why is "X" massively famous/loved car only a standard?

Take your pick:
1. PD are so far up their own posterior they've forgotten their audience are mainly gamers, not just (insert 90s Japanese car) enthusiasts.
2. PD are so badly managed they aren't even aware no one got round to that car yet.
3. PD can't make a racing title to save their life.

Veyron, Countach, Zonda... No Koenigsegg (excuse my spelling I can't be bothered to check it). There is too much of a solid pattern here to be able to explain without mentioning the words "sheer incompetence".
 
Great car, the exterior looks pretty good. I don't miss the cockpit view much since I rarely use them. I would like to see it given an update to premium as well but I don't worry too about too much if they don't.
 
Q. Why is "X" massively famous/loved car only a standard?

Take your pick:
1. PD are so far up their own posterior they've forgotten their audience are mainly gamers, not just (insert 90s Japanese car) enthusiasts.
2. PD are so badly managed they aren't even aware no one got round to that car yet.
3. PD can't make a racing title to save their life.

Veyron, Countach, Zonda... No Koenigsegg (excuse my spelling I can't be bothered to check it). There is too much of a solid pattern here to be able to explain without mentioning the words "sheer incompetence".

Or maybe it's just because PD only have a limited amount of time and resources/staff in which to recreate these Premium cars?

To produce them, they have to have access to IRL versions of cars to take detailed measurements and photos of these vehicles. It's obviously much easier to get hold of Japanese cars in Japan than it is some foreign exotic.
 
Or maybe it's just because PD only have a limited amount of time and resources/staff in which to recreate these Premium cars?

To produce them, they have to have access to IRL versions of cars to take detailed measurements and photos of these vehicles. It's obviously much easier to get hold of Japanese cars in Japan than it is some foreign exotic.

So they didn't make the Supra a premium? Don't try logic with PD. They refute it all the time.
 
When was the last time you saw a standard unmolested Supra?

Uhhh... No offense but,I don't get what you were trying to say there... Just because some cars are old they have to be standard? So I guess they found a spanking new Schwimmwagen then...
 
Uhhh... No offense but,I don't get what you were trying to say there... Just because some cars are old they have to be standard? So I guess they found a spanking new Schwimmwagen then...

No, wasn't saying that. You've taken my use of the word 'standard' in the wrong context.

I ment that there are actually no unmolested or unmodified Supras ('standard' in other words) left in the world. So PD wouldn't have been able to get hold of one to produce a Premium model of it.
 
No, wasn't saying that. You've taken my use of the word 'standard' in the wrong context.

I ment that there are actually no unmolested or unmodified Supras ('standard' in other words) left in the world. So PD wouldn't have been able to get hold of one to produce a Premium model of it.

Yes there are, not every single supra has been molested. If PD can get hold of the only Lamborghini Miura Prototype in the world, then they'll have no problem finding an unmolested Supra.
 
No, wasn't saying that. You've taken my use of the word 'standard' in the wrong context.

I ment that there are actually no unmolested or unmodified Supras ('standard' in other words) left in the world. So PD wouldn't have been able to get hold of one to produce a Premium model of it.

Well,I don't think that is the case here. PD are a huge company and I'm sure they could do something to get what they needed. To say they don't have pristine examples of a 92' model car when there are premiums all the way from the 50's just does not hold water.

All said they were just being really lazy about it. I mean,5 years and they couldn't make 800 premium cars? I teach Maya at an academy here,and modeling is the easiest part. Programming the vehicle dynamics as I understand would take time. But that PD nailed the dynamics(somewhat) and left the models to rot,to me is a sure sign of negligence.

To quote someone else on this forum,"PD should've released this on April 1st. Atleast then we would've know they weren't serious about it."
 
One word answer for this ready ?

RACISM

Yes that's exactly what it is give me an Italian supercar over a Japanese Technology mobile any day of the week
 
Q. Why is "X" massively famous/loved car only a standard?

Take your pick:
1. PD are so far up their own posterior they've forgotten their audience are mainly gamers, not just (insert 90s Japanese car) enthusiasts.
2. PD are so badly managed they aren't even aware no one got round to that car yet.
3. PD can't make a racing title to save their life.

Veyron, Countach, Zonda... No Koenigsegg (excuse my spelling I can't be bothered to check it). There is too much of a solid pattern here to be able to explain without mentioning the words "sheer incompetence".

This is the most diluted, one-sided argument I've seen here in a long time. You sir, are ridiculous.
 
Or maybe it's just because PD only have a limited amount of time and resources/staff in which to recreate these Premium cars?
Hence why important, ridiculously famous, fun to drive cars should all get first billing when it comes to being included, and included as premium. Cars that every single kid had on their bedroom wall fits this category. But I wouldn't tell PD what to include, as including some random derivative Japanese hatchback that will be forgotten in 5 years is their creative choice to make. It is my choice to buy their next game or not.
To produce them, they have to have access to IRL versions of cars to take detailed measurements and photos of these vehicles. It's obviously much easier to get hold of Japanese cars in Japan than it is some foreign exotic.
I believe PD would have stock photos, extensive measurements etc for many of the non-premium cars from work on past GTs etc... I'm not sure this is the critical issue explaining the car list. Other game titles (from America) have better quality models than GT5's standards, featuring loads of cars that haven't been put together in the developer's back yard. Forza has a vastly better selection of Ferrari, has Koenigsegg, has a good looking Countach etc... I'm not trying to bring Forza into things, just it is the obvious example
in how to manage a limited car count, in next to no dev time, and come out with a great compromise. Everything in game development is a compromise, but PD just don't seem to be making choices that can be explained. It is just plain odd.

Of course it comes down to man-hours, but it also comes down to creative choice and project management. They could have made a game with say, 300-400 premiums similar to a Forza title, but with a much more rounded out car list, such that every car was worthy of it's spot and even though there are less cars, it feels like there is more choice, because there are more good choices.

But that is again getting into my personal taste with car lists. No matter one's taste in cars, it is clearly strange to have a new car not from GT4 (Countach) be modelled as a standard. I know it was from PSP, but if PD didn't think ahead at that point? Just how late in the game did any work proper on GT5 start?

Freight48
This is the most diluted, one-sided argument I've seen here in a long time. You sir, are ridiculous.
Aside from you possibly not picking up on my intentional overstatement to make a perfectly valid, yet somewhat frustrated point, care to elaborate? If you played an entirely different game to me, I can go on at length and great detail about the insurmountably huge flaws in the GT5 I played, but I think most of them have been adequately covered on this site...
 
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Or maybe it's just because PD only have a limited amount of time and resources/staff in which to recreate these Premium cars?

5 years can't be a "limited" amount of time... 👎

Well... maybe yes, taking into consideration that they lost significant time doing GTPSP :crazy:... maybe even more than we can imagine... :ouch:

In fact, I think that game is to blame for all the delays and the overall good but yet underachieving GT5 we got from PD :sick:

They could have made a game with say, 300-400 premiums similar to a Forza title, but with a much more rounded out car list, such that every car was worthy of it's spot and even though there are less cars, it feels like there is more choice, because there are more good choices.

Exactly. GT5 is flooded with cars that don't even belong in here... I think we can even remove 100 Japanese cars and we wouldn't notice it...
 
5 years can't be a "limited" amount of time... 👎

Well... maybe yes, taking into consideration that they lost significant time doing GTPSP :crazy:... maybe even more than we can imagine... :ouch:

In fact, I think that game is to blame for all the delays and the overall good but yet underachieving GT5 we got from PD :sick:
The thing is, I'm such an unsympathetic, cold hearted bastard that I don't even consider the time taken working on GT PSP as a legitimate excuse, when the clearly more important title to be working on was GT5, the title that it's absence in the market must have caused many Xbox's and Forza 2/3s to be sold to impatient gamers. The lack of a GT title on PS3 must have really hurt PlayStation.

Sony eventually forcing a release was totally understandable to me, after all, it IS big business and Sony that effectively keeps PD in the black. Perhaps PD could thought of a more efficient way of putting out GT PSP to satisfy Sony. Perhaps a quick port (even outsourced?) of largely GT3 (the most suitable GT tech-wise, and the most arcadey and suited to a portable system). Even if EVERYTHING was carried over verbatim, game structure and all, with perhaps crappier textures/car count to fit on the UMD, it would have been a far better game than GT PSP ended up being...
 
I didn't know you spoke on behalf of GTPlanet. Some people (me being one of them) like cars like the AZ-1 and Kubelwagen because they add variety to a 'real driving simulator'. For example, once tuned the AZ-1 is a drifting beast. =P
Using your logic I could just say 'Why isn't the Daihatsu Midget premium?'

@OP: Not being rude, but there's no need to make a brand new thread just because 'xxxx' car isn't Premium or in the game. Use the Feedback section to se if people agree or not.

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