Why max out your cars?

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My question goes out to the people that have been enjoying GT from the first GT? All others please don't reply due to your to young to understand or you're pon just going with the flow. For those of us who've been enjoying GT since it first what is the point of tuning the cars to the max, mainly the race cars? Yes I understand to compete with others due to all doing it. Is the competion really that good? Or is it so bad you need the power to get out front and not your skills?
 
Simple. More pooowerrrrrrrrrrr=better :lol:
Seriously, I like to see what some of the ancient cars would be like if they got today's power building ability. I like that sense of fear in a 787B with 800 BHP and a High-RPM Turbo in the wet with no aids.
 
Modifying the road cars tends to be fine, you need to get the max out of them sometimes to make them work at their best. Race cars don't need tuning really though. As the first GT did prove - in the road car department with the 900hp+ cars you could get and in the race car department with the superb LM Editions.
 
mattythedog
Simple. More pooowerrrrrrrrrrr=best :lol:
Seriously, I like to see what some of the ancient cars would be like if they got today's power building ability. I like that sense of fear in a 787B with 800 BHP and a High-RPM Turbo in the wet with no aids.
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Not true. The better the driver, the better the performance. You can have 1,000,000+ BHP but if you can't handle it, you won't be winning any races.
 
MSTER232
Not true. The better the driver, the better the performance. You can have 1,000,000+ BHP but if you can't handle it, you won't be winning any races.
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Sorry I meant better. I've edited the original.
 
MSTER232
Not true. The better the driver, the better the performance. You can have 1,000,000+ BHP but if you can't handle it, you won't be winning any races.
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But a good driver with 1 HP can't win from a bad driver with 1.000.000
 
noisiaturismo
But a good driver with 1 HP can't win from a bad driver with 1.000.000
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What do you have to prove your point? If you put a bad driver in a 1,000,000 bhp car, they will constantly keep spinning the car and crashing into walls.
The good driver with 1 bhp will win because they will have good car control.

Try putting an 8 year old in a Ferrari up against a fully-licensed racing car driver in your average family car. Who would win? The racing car driver would because he knows where to brake, what the driving line is etc. But the 8 year old would know none of this and probably would crash/spin in the first corner. Put the 8 year old child in a car with a clutch and h-shifter and you'll be buying out the markets for clutches ;).
 
Mostly because it's a "what if" kinda moment and getting the race cars to able to compete with eachother. Also the fact that yes usually 90% of the grid will also have tuned cars (easy fix with ne stock car tab). Even with cars you can't tune, NASCAR car's for example you can still run into a uneven class as there is tons of hp to be made by retuning the engine (engine rebuilds).

Tuning car's street or race is always to go faster (the Mazda 6 touring car can't keep up without tuning). The only reason I'd use stock race cars is if I'm running in a series or a particular event.

To me it ultimately comes down to what would I do in real life. Would I try to get more out of a Miata TC if given to me in real life? Damn skippy I would.
 
noisiaturismo
But a good driver with 1 HP can't win from a bad driver with 1.000.000
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👍 lol.

To the OP, i tune simply because it gives me an extra advantage to win, thats the aim of racing.

However with the new tuning sheets you can have one with, and without a turbo, ect which is cool.
 
noisiaturismo
But a good driver with 1 HP can't win from a bad driver with 1.000.000
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What track? Real life? That isn't a realistic scenario either way.

Eight year old versus a professional racer is a good way of putting it (not realistic though, which is why it's a good example). Have them race on Sarthe and the kid will first get stuck in the "sand", then he'll crash at the end of the straight.

A Ford Model T will beat a totaled Veyron.
 
I tune a car until it cant do eau rouge wide open

Agree, take a production car and slap 900 hp on it.. thats not gunna happen. definite diminishing returns on HP. once a car loses its balance it gets worse

Some cars I tune all the way because it interests me. Maybe I want a srt4 with 600 hp? maybe thats cool to me.
 
seanneedscar
Agree, take a production car and slap 900 hp on it.. thats not gunna happen. definite diminishing returns on HP. once a car loses its balance it gets worse
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Reminds me of a Ford GT I have in my garage that I tuned all the way... almost 900hp of junk... lol... All it does is spin... and in real life that is exactly what happens too...

Setting up a car is more than adding "bolt ons" there is MUCH more after a point... Thats part of the fun of the game...

For fun, look up the calculations involved in suspension (Spring Rate Calculators)
 
I'm hopeless at tuning so I used to just buy every available upgrade for a car, under the assumption that more power is always better. Admittedly, it does make it easier to win races but now I prefer to drive cars stock and try entering the seasonals with cars that are similar to the competition.

I think it's more fun to drive a car as it's intended to be, rather than just sticking a turbo on it to win.
 
I tune cars to their maximum and see what they can compete against with their upgraded performance.
 
Zuel
My question goes out to the people that have been enjoying GT from the first GT? All others please don't reply due to your to young to understand or you're pon just going with the flow.
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Before answering, I don't see the point of that, but whatever.

The performance level of a car is irrelevant. Racing is racing whether you have 1 hp or 10,000. Sometimes people feel like racing at the 1 hp level, other times they feel like racing at the 10,000 hp level. It's that simple.
 
Some people just want to watch the fuel burn.
 
It adds the ability to get more enjoyment out of a car and compete at different levels with certain cars. Example: BMW Z4 '03: a decent car in its stock form, it will win some lower level races. Fully tuned, this thing packs a punch and can compete at higher levels than before. I understand why you want to keep a car in its stock form, but tuning adds some variety and fun to it.

I will add that modding a race car ruins the whole point of it, it makes much more sense on a production vehicle.
 
Modifying any car and driving them is good fun, especially with the 900hp+ cars. They are all an adrenaline rush!
 
pjs123456789
I like using the cars normal in many cases and other times I enjoy modifying a car to bring out my creativity.
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The modifications let you play with tuning more 👍

Cant tune a factory car really...
 
For the cars that I use regularly, I never maxed them out. I like to keep cars as close to stock as possible. I do tune the suspension and install the semi-racing flywheel for most cars I drive. One of the cars I have extensively tuned is my lotus evora which is tuned to the evora type 124 enduro race car specs. +2 weight redux and 406 hp makes the car very fun to drive; it is fast enough so that I am constantly on the edge between being within the limit of the car and losing control. I wouldn't do any further power upgrades or weight reductions.

I prefer a well balanced car to one that has every single modification tacked on.
 
Zuel
My question goes out to the people that have been enjoying GT from the first GT? All others please don't reply due to your to young to understand or you're pon just going with the flow. For those of us who've been enjoying GT since it first what is the point of tuning the cars to the max, mainly the race cars? Yes I understand to compete with others due to all doing it. Is the competion really that good? Or is it so bad you need the power to get out front and not your skills?
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The only race cars that I add power to are the ones that exhibit very good grip and a chassis that can handle more.
With anything else you'll just introduce problems that you'll have to try to tune out anyways.
The majority of the time you'll have a racecar that is only a small amount faster than it's counterpart due to an inability to really keep it driving on a knife edge.
I'll take consistency & good road manners over raw power & horsepower figures anyday.

The overall majority of my racecars do not have power added to them.
Tuning only.
 
I can understand tuning a road car to a point to get the best performance from it, though knowing the limit. But overly tuning one to me is not practical in real live or in a game. I see a lot of people working so bloody hard to get an overly tuned road car or race car to perform on the track. To see what the limits are? It’s too late for that once you’ve added all that extra power to it. All that power is only good for one thing going fast in a straight line. If that’s all you want then drag it should solve the problem. Tuning a road car to perform next to a race car is pointless to me as well; I don’t see any logic in it. This is what I see every time I play GT. I see all the cars and race cars some of us dream of driving of getting behind the wheel. I want to get the thought thrill of being behind that wheel of that car is it’s rah form. Being able to compete against another driver in the same car or in a car with in its class, but that will never happen because everyone is so power hungry thinking they can be fastest by having a fast car. The power is not what makes the car fast it’s the driver. If someone had the money to build something with good enough AI to drive an overly tuned car would it be fast? Yeah fast in the wall. I don’t know, I guess a lot of you lost the real joy of cars, and started thinking a lot like gamers rather than drivers.


I hope one day soon I’ll find some people whom will be willing to compete with a normally tuned car or race. If I’m going to get beat I want to get beat by a driver not car against car. That’s 5 year old stuff.
“MY CAR IS BETTER THAN YOU CAR LOOK AT THE GOLD PAINT”
“WELL MY HAS 1500 HP POWER WITH GOLD PAINT.”
“Ok let’s race, vroom.”
“………….”
“I WIN!!!! I TOLD YOU MY CAR IS BETTER THAN YOUR’S!!!”
“I’M GOING TO TELL MOMMY YOU GOT A BETTER CAR THAN I”
“MOMMY BILLY’S CAR IS BETTER THAN MINE I WANT ANOTHER CAR NOW!!!”

LOL, I’m sorry I had too couldn’t hold myself from doing but you get my point.
 
I feel you Zuel. Nothing like gobbling someone up in the twisty's only to get run down from behind on the straits. It Was fine until Gear ratios became fully adjustable. Now people are using info gleaned from lots of hours dragging and tinkering to out pull people instead of race them. If someone has the knowledge to put together a solid suspension tune. Fine, that takes some work unless your copying. I mostly race shuffle to avoid this competitive imbalance. I should probably find out more about gear ratios, but I imagine that info not flowing very freely. I probably would not share it with just anyone. The online component could definitely use some more spec type options. But the majority do seem to feel like the tune is just as important as the driving. At least the lobbies reflect that.
 
Now if the vehicle tuning option would allow us to make changes to the car but prohiditing cars that have had engine tuning as in adding extra power. Would be a better option but it hasn't worked like that. Until then GT will never be the same to me.
 
Why modify?

Ask Vettel and Hamilton if, when told there was a way of getting an extra 10th out of their cars by boosting output, dropping the springs or losing weight, do you think they'd say "no thanks mate, I like my car as it is, because it shows off my skills better"

Thought not.
 
Because it makes the car better and more-competitive. Tuning the car makes it worse?
Where is that true? maybe with some cars, but let's try to tune a lancer evo, and run it stock before....and tell me if it is better with the power maxed out or without it...it is A WAY better with the power, and it will still handle like GOOD HELL!

Sure you got to think about the car you'r going to tune, adding power to a thing that can't handle it is like stupid, but it doensn't always work like this, there are lots of cars that only gets advantages from a good and balanced power upgrade


EDIT : I'm talking about IN-GAME experience, as far as we'r playing the game, i find it pointless talking about real life one.
 
Still for max speed isn't it easier just to drive the X2010? No amount of tuning can make any of the street cars go faster than that. ;)

Not saying tuning is bad though. I don't usually max tune my cars but i can understand some people liking to do that. "It's fun" is really all the reason needed. :)
 

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