"Why Nerds Are Unpopular"

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Omnis is a nerd. Man, he was trying to convince me that the stuff he listens to, like that Barman guy, is the greatest rap to ever hit the planet. If you think making two trips to a dictionary just to understand a single line of the rap is cool then I guess it's pretty badass.

It's funny because Keef is a nerd as well. Also brett says you suck because you drive a honda.
 
I are a nerd therefour I listen to nerdcoar.

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Very true indeed. Some of us just haven't had the offer yet...

...Too bad I'm not more like Mr. Campbell over there...
 
Very true indeed. Some of us just haven't had the offer yet...

...Too bad I'm not more like Mr. Campbell over there...
Experience is Everything.
 
I think the formula should be more like: painful to look at + unpleasant smell + creepy/no personality = unpopular.


I am none of those things. I'm still unpopular. I have friends, but I'm far from "Popular".


Soo.... I'm thinking that its more like, who is more socially awkward earlier in life, also, assholes who like to ruin lives.
 
For me it very much annoys me when someone calls me a spoff, although this is a rare occurance I make sure I make my point and walk away as if I don't care. Its a simple tactic which works very well when people try to use it as an insult.

The reason this annoys me is because where I go to school a spoff means someone who is really clever, who spends all the time working and reading books. For me this isn't the case, fortunately for me I can never do classwork never do homework never revise and come out of science tests with an A*. I hate being studious and proceed to procrastinate whenever it is forced upon me so I would in no way whatsoever call myself a spoff.

While intelligence can be linked with nerds, it is very much the social skills which determines a nerd, it tends to be people with introvert personalities who may be slightly reclusive who tend to be labeled as nerds in my school. I have good grades but I am not labeled as a nerd because I compete in lots of sports teams, have many friends and generally try to talk to as many people as possible. I would imagine most nerds don't have the confidence to just go over and talk to someone, this is usually why nerds have a very small but tight group of friends.
 
Nerds in my comprehensive were the ones that still played Pokemon at 13. The ones that sketched Zelda characters and brought their Game Boys to school over the age of 13.

The Nerds in college are the ones who are constantly on their laptops in the common room, but not doing work, just making games or playing games that no one has ever seen before and not talking either.

So yeah, where I am from a nerd is someone who is obsessed with computers and games.

Normally has nothing to do with appearence or body odour, those people are just scruffy.

The reason this annoys me is because where I go to school a spoff means someone who is really clever, who spends all the time working and reading books. For me this isn't the case, fortunately for me I can never do classwork never do homework never revise and come out of science tests with an A*. I hate being studious and proceed to procrastinate whenever it is forced upon me so I would in no way whatsoever call myself a spoff.
Oh how you will have to change for A-level. I knew loads of people who were exactly the same (includiong myself in some subjects) but AS level... damn.
 
We're talking about why nerds/geeks aren't aware how easy it is to be popular.

Popular? as in the "IN" crowd in High school? **** that... Those people are the ones that are the most desperate because they need others to make them feel valid. Sad part is even after HS and way into adulthood those same people try to pretend they are still in HS. Sad really.

Oh and I'd rather have REAL friends thanks... not friends to make yourself good. :rolleyes:
 
Popular people are only popular because people believe them to be so. If people weren't so focused on that idea alone, there wouldn't such a big issue with who is cool and who isn't in schools all around the world.

At least where I went to school, the popular kids were only popular because people bought into that idea. These kids were no better than the rest of us. Sure, some of them had more money, others had parents that would buy them booze or whatever, but when it came right down to it, they knew they weren't any better than anyone else.

I did my best to be friends with almost everyone. That being said, there were many kids that I wouldn't talk to unless people were paying me... Burned bridges and the like, some kind of social order they thought existed, etc.

I had fun in High School being a part of my little group, self-described as the "A-hole Gamers." We didn't give a damn about anyone or anything, and we just went on with our lives. We made fun of the "popular" kids quite often, but that was because most of us were friends with these kids, and thereby it meant nothing...

...Although, we didn't like the theater kids. They didn't like us either. It was nearly a full-out war at one point...

So, yeah. Where was I going with this? Right...

Popular is more or less a state of mind, and it is something that everyone must believe in order for it to be true. Generally speaking, nobody is actually ever "popular," as they are just as normal as the rest of us...
 
I would consider myself popular, I have many friends and many 'good' friends, I try to avoid superficial friends unless it is just to avoid conflict. Would you say I am self-absorbed?
 
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I knew plenty of nerds in high school that were having stupid amounts of sex. But that may have been because they were A) knocking-up the slutty girls or B) knocking up the slutty nerd girls...
You left out the ugly, fat, stupid girls...you know, triple-baggers.
YSSMAN
- I always thought Geeks and Nerds went together hand-in-hand
How dare you!
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Although Nerds may be a bit more apt in math and science and the whatnot, generally speaking they share the same interest as Geeks in technology and sci-fi, and whatnot.
Nerds devote time to useful endeavors (learning), while geeks devote their time watching anime, playing Magic The Gathering, and adding to their Star Wars blog--tasks not likely to bolster their employability.

I resent the implication that all nerds enjoy the sci-fi. While I am most definitely a nerd, I never really liked Star Wars, Star Trek, or Stargate. Whenever someone quips "hey nerd, why don't you go watch Star Wars for the fifth time today?", I reply, "I'm really more into cars", then I re-arrange his face with a tire iron...and then I finish changing my tires.

Nerds are unpopular because everyone knows we make out like bandits later in life. Living well is the best revenge, because in the real world, nobody gives a rat's ass who was popular in high school, or how goofy-looking you were at age thirteen.

Side note: at my high school reunion, I'm going to light my cigars with $100 bills, and watch as my borderline-retarded classmates swarm to pick up the smoldering ashes. When people ask me what I do for a living, I will scoff "I could explain it to you, but you'd have no idea what I'm talking about". After my enemies have thustly been put in their place, I shall drink every last drop of liquor in the joint, peel out of the parking lot in my Aston Martin, and laugh thinking about how those morons are going to go home (to their parents') and cry themselves to sleep because I am awesome and they are not.
 
Side note: at my high school reunion, I'm going to light my cigars with $100 bills, and watch as my borderline-retarded classmates swarm to pick up the smoldering ashes. When people ask me what I do for a living, I will scoff "I could explain it to you, but you'd have no idea what I'm talking about". After my enemies have thustly been put in their place, I shall drink every last drop of liquor in the joint, peel out of the parking lot in my Aston Martin, and laugh thinking about how those morons are going to go home (to their parents') and cry themselves to sleep because I am awesome and they are not.

Strong views then, particularly funny +rep:tup:
 
Bit conceited aren't you..
Not really. It's just amazing how much stock the young'ns put in popularity, cliques, and labels. Seriously, it all means precisely squat once you escape the social vacuum of high school. And it's surprising how little you actually see anyone after graduation...
 
Not really. It's just amazing how much stock the young'ns put in popularity, cliques, and labels. Seriously, it all means precisely squat once you escape the social vacuum of high school. And it's surprising how little you actually see anyone after graduation...

Count me as a nerd, but being popular definitly isn't what I strive for. I think kids are really just trying to be universally accepted and then build alliances with others. The problem is, the more allies one has, the more they act like they're better and the more enemies they have. This is why I really don't like the kids who are at the top of the pyramid.

As for me, I'm just fine if pretty much everyone respects me and I have some friends who will back me up and that I can hang out with and be entertained.
 
Not really. It's just amazing how much stock the young'ns put in popularity, cliques, and labels. Seriously, it all means precisely squat once you escape the social vacuum of high school. And it's surprising how little you actually see anyone after graduation...

Very true. Although there are always people like me who are clinging to the memory of High School because you went to such a bad-ass one to begin with. Kids from Forest Hills (Central, Northern and Eastern... I went to Central) and kids who go to East Grand Rapids (actually, if you see the movie American Pie, its based off of stores from EGR... "Central" is where I went to school in the movie) are all pretty stuck-up about where they come from, and we talk about it all the time.

...Anyway, I still see kids I went to High School with fairly often. I work with one of my better friends from school, I still play on XBOX with a lot of them, and the rest hang out every once in a while... Usually on breaks and whatnot.

Still, maybe its just because I'm at Aquinas, or maybe its just West Michigan in general, but people still "front" for whatever reason because it is their way of protecting themselves. Sure, we may be more accepting of people from the former cliques (mostly because they don't exist in college), but lets be honest, people still care about what clothes you wear, what you drive, what kind of iPod you're using, etc...
 
Very true. Although there are always people like me who are clinging to the memory of High School because you went to such a bad-ass one to begin with. Kids from Forest Hills (Central, Northern and Eastern... I went to Central) and kids who go to East Grand Rapids (actually, if you see the movie American Pie, its based off of stores from EGR... "Central" is where I went to school in the movie) are all pretty stuck-up about where they come from, and we talk about it all the time.
So, people talk about what high school they went to as if it is a status symbol? So the bum that went to the cool high school is better than the rich, succesful businessman that owns his own company? I have always believed that it doesn't matter where you used to be, but where you are that matters.

Still, maybe its just because I'm at Aquinas, or maybe its just West Michigan in general, but people still "front" for whatever reason because it is their way of protecting themselves. Sure, we may be more accepting of people from the former cliques (mostly because they don't exist in college), but lets be honest, people still care about what clothes you wear, what you drive, what kind of iPod you're using, etc...
In my office environment it is no longer about what brand your business casual clothes are so long as you have appropriate looking business casual clothes. Some people in college still care about the brands and whatnot but there are plenty of others that don't. The car begins to only matter to the car guys and the iPod just becomes what you listen to while compiling reports or working out. It's rare that anyone notices I have a 15gb iPod with a black and white, text only screen. And when they do notice it is usually only because they were asking if I had a certain video podcast.

Give it a few more years and no one will care about any of that. In fact, my going to the University of Kentucky for college has more to do with sports now, and my access to alumni tickets, than it does with how cool or uncool it was. I have yet to wander into the networking group where I meet another UK graduate and they suddenly take me around and introduce me to all the businessmen who also graduated from UK. Trust me, I would love a good job offer just because I went to the right school and sport a wildcat logo on my polos, but it just doesn't happen in the real world. At least not the way it did then. Now people judge based on economic class instead of class ranking.
 
I don't care about the status, i don't like being called "nerd" or "loser"
I don't classify people as "nerds" and "geeks" that, to me, is sort of messed up... I dont wear high-waters *shudders*, just not the fancy rocka wear.. I have glasses, and I dont "have fun" or in other words, pick on other people, or go sexually taunt/bug someone. I guess people just think they have the right, since I'm generous enough to let anyone copy from me, as long as I don't get caught... I am interested in science, it is fascinating, isnt it, but i am not going to be a scientist, or some doctor.
People ask me, "what grades do you get?" "are you giong to some fancy smart college?" "Are you wrking out bailey?*snicker*"
It's annoying, but what am I gonna do, I guess it is just the fact that they caaaan't do it themselves, and if they keep it up they'll be in highschool till theyre 22.
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So, people talk about what high school they went to as if it is a status symbol? So the bum that went to the cool high school is better than the rich, succesful businessman that owns his own company? I have always believed that it doesn't matter where you used to be, but where you are that matters.

In all seriousness, going to Forest Hills or East Grand Rapids is a big thing in most of West Michigan. I know that we're the second and third richest school districts in the state, save for that one in Detroit that I can never remember the name of...

I'm not certain why it ends up that way, but it certainly carries a bit of weight into things. Job applications for one look a lot better with FH or EGR on the High School portion (as a matter of fact, we look for that where I work), and often times it give a lot of people special connections for later jobs in life (as many of the people who live in FH or EGR own most of the business in the area... Amway, Bissel, etc...).

So, yes, we're all a bit stuck-up. But even then, Rockford is beginning to be like these two schools because of their success in High School sports, beyond that the growing number of wealthy people moving to the district.
 
In Australia, the tendency to 'group' students, especially those in secondary school, according to their social and intellectual status is much less frequent than in the U.S. Even so, each and everyday I am, to put it simply, mocked because of my studious nature. It seems that those willing to put in, and show, the effort into anything pertaining to 'homework/work' and 'school' are frowned upon as they are seen as not having a life- not 'socialising' enough; a nerd, so to speak in their terms.

But, too bad for them, for I, and many others on this forum, follow the philosophy that it's not who you are and what you do whilst in school but what you have become when you leave it. Their disposition to placing me in the 'unsocial' category is perhaps true (I haven't 'hanged-out' with a friend or similar for approximately a year) but I put education far, far ahead of friends and partying. This is, to me, something I see as the obvious thing to do when university/college is just around the corner. The greatest moment will come when I've finished my double degree in Aerospace/Law at University (at the ripe old age of 22, considering my current age) and all the other 'stuck-up' classmates I once knew are still struggling as blue-collar workers with no real talent to their name.
 
Update: Thanks to Myspace and other sources, I've learned that most of the undesirable people I knew of, and especially the antagonists, have had their college plans fall through the floor. Getting kicked out, alcoholism, failure, misery... karma at work: it is sweet.
 
In Australia, the tendency to 'group' students, especially those in secondary school, according to their social and intellectual status is much less frequent than in the U.S. Even so, each and everyday I am, to put it simply, mocked because of my studious nature. It seems that those willing to put in, and show, the effort into anything pertaining to 'homework/work' and 'school' are frowned upon as they are seen as not having a life- not 'socialising' enough; a nerd, so to speak in their terms.

But, too bad for them, for I, and many others on this forum, follow the philosophy that it's not who you are and what you do whilst in school but what you have become when you leave it. Their disposition to placing me in the 'unsocial' category is perhaps true (I haven't 'hanged-out' with a friend or similar for approximately a year) but I put education far, far ahead of friends and partying. This is, to me, something I see as the obvious thing to do when university/college is just around the corner. The greatest moment will come when I've finished my double degree in Aerospace/Law at University (at the ripe old age of 22, considering my current age) and all the other 'stuck-up' classmates I once knew are still struggling as blue-collar workers with no real talent to their name.

One of the better posts in this thread. I guess you're like me, i usually put studies first, but i have a good balance as well. My other "friends" dont give about studying or anything. They never do homework, always get detention etc. I am considered a half nerd. Only because i tend to know everything, but im also fairly popular. What the others dont realize is that they most of the time come running to someone like me who nearly always has the anwsers to alot (Im not bragging btw). Basically, being good at sports is what gets you popular.Im not too good at most sports, the only one where im usually beating everyone is in Athletics, but it isnt really a "popular" sport. This kinda contradicts what i said before but, if at my school, you're good a footy or basketball, you'll instantly be popular. Its also what you wear aswell. The "cool" people wear brands like Element, Globe etc. Where-as i would rather wear Nike or Adidas or something.

Remember this is in MY school.

Im not too sure, but ive noticed people who join internet forums, like us, tend to be like me, or, put studying and stuff like that first.
 
I say who really cares. I have my nerdy friends and they are the closest to me because they share most of the same interests. But then again on the other side of the spectrum i have my stoner friends because they share the same interest in heavy/death/thrash/etc metal.

If somebody is picking on you just because you focus on your schoolwork they are the ones that need to get a life. I'd just say "You'll be laughing when i'm making $100,000+ a year and your working at McDonalds."

I am a nerd/metal head and i love being that. Why should i have a million friends that will barely talk to me when i have a good 3-10 friends that keep in touch with me all the time.
 
Their disposition to placing me in the 'unsocial' category is perhaps true (I haven't 'hanged-out' with a friend or similar for approximately a year) but I put education far, far ahead of friends and partying. This is, to me, something I see as the obvious thing to do when university/college is just around the corner. The greatest moment will come when I've finished my double degree in Aerospace/Law at University (at the ripe old age of 22, considering my current age) and all the other 'stuck-up' classmates I once knew are still struggling as blue-collar workers with no real talent to their name.
I would say that while socializing can many times have little value to your school work it isn't always bad for school. If you do get stuck on something friends can be called upon for help.

Also, when you are in college I suggest creating a network of friends because at a minimum they are important for future netwporking. I got started in eth company I work for now because I friend worked here and told me they had openings and were desperate, so my timely application combined with his reference had me get a job that I otherwise wouldn't have known was even available.

And then the fact that I know peoplw from college in other companies and can make suggsts and occasionally network to benefit my job makes me look even better. There is a reason why guys in fraternities manage to do decent in the business world. Networking plays a large roll in business. I have gone out of my way in my career to make sure I had good communication with all the managers in this company. Occasionally I get a call from someone I have only talked to via email but because I work at balancing work and social skills in my communications they call me up and say, "Hey, man can you take care of this for me?"

While in high school it definitely seems like a social life can detract from what is important it becomes a great benefit to have a balanced social and professional life later. And a social life in high school does benefit as a social skill building exercise because it is hard to build a social network if you never did it before.

So, while your parents will kill me for saying this: You should occasionally put the book down and go out with people every now and then. If nothing else think of it as a skill building exercise. Because I will be completely honest with you; I have so far used stuff I learned in classes less than five times in over four years, and that was usually in passing to just demonstrate that I did know it and dispell any doubts that I may not be well versed in the subject.

I am not saying that school is not important, because you do need some of the stuff you learn, but the biggest thing you will learn is not taught in any subject. You learn how to adapt, schedule, budget, and deal with situations that have far greater consequences outside of school if you screw them up. Part of this is how to balance life with school/work.

Update: Thanks to Myspace and other sources, I've learned that most of the undesirable people I knew of, and especially the antagonists, have had their college plans fall through the floor. Getting kicked out, alcoholism, failure, misery... karma at work: it is sweet.
Hehe, I am actually considering going to my high school reunion just to check out this current situation. I ran into a friend the other day who was going to engineering school when I last saw him nine years ago. He now owns and runs a gas station with his dad.

At teh same time I don't want to go to my reunion and see al teh peopel that called me a nerd. When I do run into them they act like we were best friends. I don't want to play that charade. I will manage to get along with the one friend I still talk to, and that is if he goes. Even if I feel I am doing better than everyone else I don't want to sit there bored to death.

It is an open bar though.......
 
I don't think I'll ever go to a high school reunion unless I'm specifically invited or begged. I don't necessarily look forward to the day, but I'm sure I would have fun regardless. To be honest, it hasn't even crossed my mind, especially considering I haven't even started college.

I'm in ur class, pwnin ur doodz.
 
I'll throw my experience in.

I graduated High School last year.

I am a nerd. Pure and simple. My group of closest friends calls us the "nerdcore". We're all social people, and could fit in with most groups in our High School. I was in choir and on the crew for many of the theater shows. Two were in Marching band, and the last one was in Orchestra. We all took part in the regional Science knowledge bowl competition for two years. I was the captain of the team the third, while the other three went over to Academic Decathalon. I can be pretty confident when talking to other people. The four of us went to Arizona earlier this year, and it was awesome.

I was the nerdy choir kid who lurked backstage pulling curtains and building and striking sets.

I also got along with the "gearheads" of the school. Proving the more irritable ones wrong about things was a way of stress management. We spent long hours hanging out and sanding body panels. I'm apparently a masking tape ninja.

They were the guys who would come and get me out of a jam when my chevy fouled up. There's nothing like chain towing in a hailstorm.


Am I a nerd? Definitely. It's probably a way of turning a derogatory term around, the way we used it. Even coming from the "more popular" people it was in a complementary way. Huh.
 
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