Why pick SHIFT over GRiD?

  • Thread starter Thread starter danjama
  • 51 comments
  • 5,264 views
danjama

danjama

Messages
1,056
United Kingdom
London
I don't get it. Maybe i'm missing something fundamental, but as someone who bought grid on release and played it for many many hours, why do i need to play Shift? What is the incentive to play it when it looks like a clone of Grid?

Someone help me out...I want to be convinced, because it looks gorgeous and i need a new racing game, but i'm not really feeling it. Are there differences between the 2 that i'm missing other than head shake and speed warp?

Why are people seemingly being sucked in by NFS:Shift?
 
Shift is nothing like Grid, it feels more realistic. If you don't want to buy it, you could always rent it(if available where you are).
 
Justin
Shift is nothing like Grid, it feels more realistic. If you don't want to buy it, you could always rent it(if available where you are).
Click to expand...

How does it feel more realistic?

I've heard this in reviews and other forums, but from watching all videos of the game it just looks so arcadish. Cars seem to accelerate like rockets (0-100 in 3 seconds) and generally look odd...

Thanks for the quick reply. I was a huge fan of GTR2 and GTL and i know Simbin worked on this game, but from the videos i've seen, i get the impression they moved away from their previous works.
 
If you have a steering wheel then it's miles apart.

I played GRID Demo and did not buy the game because they did not bother to put effort on making it work with a wheel, they just focused on the controller, similar to what they did to Dirt(1).

Now NFS:Shift is awesome with a wheel. ( on a side note, Dirt2 is great with a wheel as well ).

You should try to drive the old school corolla or nissan skyline, and you'll see what i mean.
 
Turbo Lag
I think SHIFT is what GRiD should have been.
Click to expand...
+2

GRID and Shift are nothing alike other than some visual style I suppose.

But Shift, despite its flaws, has better physics, better customisation and imo better tracks.

GRID was a massive disappointment.
 
BlackZ28
I own both, I prefer GRiD over SHIFT. Anyday..
Click to expand...

Well I dont own any of them as yet but I have played the Grid Demo and I have been waiting until Shift came out to make my decission on which game to buy until GT5 comes out. Yesterday I got a chance to play Shift at a local game store and it sucks ,I should of bought Grid a long time ago thats what. Grid isn't the best game it has some faults but Shift is just a big rip of all it has is the EA logo and some super cars.
 
That's funny. The first time I took a corner in Grid I knew it was pure arcade and not for me. *

The first time I turned a corner in Shift I thought it was sim and I was happy.

Now I'm less happy with it but it is still vastly superior to Grid.

* Naturally I did much more that a corner when evaluating the game.
 
I bought grid, and just couldn't get into it. Shift on the other hand is hard to stop playing. the cars have weight to them, and really do feel like they are on the track, probably more so then any game I have ever played.

Part of your problem with it Zanele is probably because the one you played was the 360 version. I haven't read much good about the 360 version, but I assume its because the 360 wheel is horrible.

If you have a logitech wheel, and a ps3 shift is great fun. The AI is very aggresive, and the cars are very responsive. You can tell the difference in the car, with every upgrade you do to them. Every car has it's own feel, and sound.

I really don't see how any sim fans don't like shift. It does have some arcade feel to it, but it's more sim then arcade if you ask me. Turn off all the assists, and turn it on pro, and the cars feel very good.

Grid and shift aren't even really comparable as far as the feel of the cars are concerned. the only thing comparable is the presentation, and really it's not the same either.
 
Last edited:
BlackZ28
I own both, I prefer GRiD over SHIFT. Anyday..
Click to expand...

I used to own both but Grid is far better than Shift imo, so I returned Shift to get Batman: Arkham Asylum instead :)

Jerome
 
bevo
I bought grid, and just couldn't get into it. Shift on the other hand is hard to stop playing. the cars have weight to them, and really do feel like they are on the track, probably more so then any game I have ever played.

Part of your problem with it Zanele is probably because the one you played was the 360 version. I haven't read much good about the 360 version, but I assume its because the 360 wheel is horrible.

If you have a logitech wheel, and a ps3 shift is great fun. The AI is very aggresive, and the cars are very responsive. You can tell the difference in the car, with every upgrade you do to them. Every car has it's own feel, and sound.

I really don't see how any sim fans don't like grid. It does have some arcade feel to it, but it's more sim then arcade if you ask me. Turn off all the assists, and turn it on pro, and the cars feel very good.

Grid and shift aren't even really comparable as far as the feel of the cars are concerned. the only thing comparable is the presentation, and really it's not the same either.
Click to expand...

Theres nothing wrong with the 360 version just the wheel sucks. Talking to someone who owns a copy both for 360 and PS3 they say the graphics look much better on the 360 in comparison to the PS3. I'm sure as soon as the fanatec wheels for the 360 are been delivered then a lot of racing games on the 360 are going to feel much better.
 
I didn't play GRiD, only the demo, which did not appeal to me, even though I can see why some people might enjoy it. Shift, other than the "Aggression" side of the game, which is not well done (crappy damage for one thing), has very little in common with GRiD.

danjama, Shift has more in common with FC - with better graphics, cockpit view & sound, a great selection of tracks (including the Nordschliefe), but less sim physics. The great presentation (more or less) makes up for the less sim physics IMO. I (more or less) recommend it. 👍
 
TGM Tiddy
Theres nothing wrong with the 360 version just the wheel sucks. Talking to someone who owns a copy both for 360 and PS3 they say the graphics look much better on the 360 in comparison to the PS3. I'm sure as soon as the fanatec wheels for the 360 are been delivered then a lot of racing games on the 360 are going to feel much better.
Click to expand...

I figured it was the wheels fault that the 360 version was getting such bad reviews on the xbox site. I meant to say shift instead of grid also in the post you quoted of mine. I didn't care much for grid, but shift is a great time. I'm really surprised at how good shift turned out.

As far as the 360 goes, I agree with you about the games usually being better. As long as the developers support thr features of the fanatec wheels, then the 360 will probably what I buy most of my racing games for.
 
It's interesting how the Xbox version has full damage models, while the PS3 doesn't. That has pretty much put me off of it. I would love to hear their reason behind this.
 
Shift is what Pro Street should have been not Grid. Both games are similar in ways but Shift plays a bit more realistic. Grid was a great game imo if you dont use a wheel. Grid is nearly 2 years old and it doesn't hurt to try new racing games.

Shift is far from say GTR but its does have a tad bit of arcade to the handling but less than Grid.

Both games are good but a little different on the handling.
 
danjama,

You want to know why people "feel" the way they do after playing the game because you don't get the same "feeling" from watching the video's? Since when does watching a video produce the same 'feeling' as the immersed interaction of actually being engaged into the game play itself? I'm not busting your chops but am suggesting you give a rental a shot so you can check it out for yourself without "judging a book by it's cover". I've been having so much fun with Dirt 2 that I have only touched on Shift. My initial thoughts were too arcadey for me coming off a 8 hour D2 session, but I haven't dismissed Shift yet. It did have a 'fun' factor that was appealing, but I just wasn't in the mood at the time to give it a true drive around the block.....just yet.
 
Pako
danjama,

You want to know why people "feel" the way they do after playing the game because you don't get the same "feeling" from watching the video's? Since when does watching a video produce the same 'feeling' as the immersed interaction of actually being engaged into the game play itself? I'm not busting your chops but am suggesting you give a rental a shot so you can check it out for yourself without "judging a book by it's cover". I've been having so much fun with Dirt 2 that I have only touched on Shift. My initial thoughts were too arcadey for me coming off a 8 hour D2 session, but I haven't dismissed Shift yet. It did have a 'fun' factor that was appealing, but I just wasn't in the mood at the time to give it a true drive around the block.....just yet.
Click to expand...

Dirt 2 is a strange one. I did enjoy the demo to an extent, and the handling characteristics were far more preferable to Grid. It seemed like a Rally lite simulation, no bad thing from my perspective - only problem being that very little of the game seems to be genuine rallying. Yeah, yeah "it's an off road game not rallying game dumbass!" but I'm sorry, it's still got Colin McRae on the cover. And yes, he did compete in other off road events other than Rally, but then that's kind of like releasing Michael Schumacher Superbike Challenge 2008. Obviously the game was far more influenced by Ken Block and his buddies, but they retained the McRae name on the cover which was always going to help sales, and threw in a token tribute to the man, even though the rest of the game seems to run counter to the games where he was actually involved in the development of them.

More than this though, the game's presentation is just off-putting. I find it childish, patronising and almost vulgar. Even if the driving itself is OK, then you have to go back to your trailer van and through all of the stupid menus that looked like they were designed by a 12 year old.

From what i've read of Shift though is that it has genuine sim pretentions but that it's had the EA brand stamped on it, adversely effecting its presentation, but that underneath all the glitter, there is a rugged driving experience which certainly cannot be said of Grid. Hence why I said before like others have that Shift appears to be the game Grid should have been. I confess, I haven't played Shift yet - but i've heard enough from people who are sim orientated that have enjoyed it but felt that Grid was not for them.
 
tinram
If you have a steering wheel then it's miles apart.

I played GRID Demo and did not buy the game because they did not bother to put effort on making it work with a wheel, they just focused on the controller, similar to what they did to Dirt(1).

Now NFS:Shift is awesome with a wheel. ( on a side note, Dirt2 is great with a wheel as well ).

You should try to drive the old school corolla or nissan skyline, and you'll see what i mean.
Click to expand...

My feelings exactly, totally agree with that!
 
Irony here it seems Codemaster is focusing towards the arcade crowd, moving away from TOCA 3,
which was in the direction of a sim. Whereas EA seems to be moving in the sim direction.

:)
 
I just don't see playing DiRT (1 or 2) or GRID with a wheel - they may play fine with a pad. Actually, there was a X-box rally game called Rallisport Challenge 2 which was superb, BUT very arcade in its handling. Basically the same as DiRT/GRID.

On the other hand SHIFT plays very well with a FFB wheel & leans towards sim much more than DiRT or GRID.
 
GRiD is a horrible floaty mess when you run it with a FFB wheel. Ghastly. I actually traded my copy straight back in because it was so crap: I should never have bought it but people commented that the full game was less floaty than the demo so I decided to give it a try. Fail.

DiRT 1 was just as bad. But Biggles, believe me DiRT 2 is hugely better. Plays very nicely with a wheel (I'm using my DFGT with it). If you haven't tried it yet, download the DiRT 2 demo and give it a go.

Shift is considerably better than GRiD when used with a wheel. It's not perfect - some cars have chronic oversteer and some zig/zag bizarrely when you steer them, but others are realy very believable. And you actually have to brake properly, unlike GRiD :)
 
The drift physics in Shift make no sense for a game thats supposed to be sim like. GT5P and PGR do not change the physics for its drifting. And Shifts drfit physics are bad..
 
LaBounti
... And Shifts drift physics are bad
Click to expand...
how very right you are :yuck: i'm hoping i can 'complete' the game without having to do any drifting

i'm not a big fan of it anyway (drifting), i don't think it has a place in any racing game 👎
 
I played the Shift demo on my PC (with steering wheel) and I was less than impressed. The only thing it has going is graphics. I'm glad I did not buy it on impulse. After playing the Forza Motorsport 3 demo, that is definitely an infinitely better game. The car physics in Shift just don't feel right to me. Car is floaty and oversteers through all corners.
 

Latest Posts

Back