Why spend 6 months making the 307cc premium?

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maybe it is because a lot of european people own this car and would love to "drive" their own car in GT5.

For me, as a dutchman, all the "muscle cars" are rubbish, but that my opinion. would rather see 1 koenigsegg for all the trucks in GT5.

People want some recognition with cars they have in real live.

I love that i can drive my 'own" subaru impreza gt turbo 2000 model
 
My guess: Peugeot set some conditions for giving PD access to the 908 models, like making premiums of some more accessible consumer Peugeots. It's all business, guys.
 
Lennan82
Would you crawl out of his ass?
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Learn to address people politely or get off this site.

Lennan82
Any single car in this came could be made premium instead of the other. It would take roughly the same amount of work and time.
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And I've presented a logical argument as to why that is not the case - you can't spend work and time on something you don't have.
 
I'm thinking it's more of a product placement nowadays with the GT franchise. Who knows, perhaps some manufacturer actually pay good money solely just to advertise. Don't you find it strange that Ford had like 3 different cars for the Seasonal Events and now the Peugeot..

I'm sure for most of the cars in GT they need to pay for license, but there ARE strange cars that doesn't have the mass appeal but yet, they're preminum and all over the place...
 
Ok then how about this. Seeing as Peugoet gave them a license to the 307 they could of easily gave them a license to the 205 GTi or the Pikes Peak cars (we have the Suzuki Escudo) instead?. I am sure alot more people like the 205 GTi because it's considered one of the best hot hatches ever.
 
jmsbrydon
Ok then how about this. Seeing as Peugoet gave them a license to the 307 they could of easily gave them a license to the 205 GTi or the Pikes Peak cars (we have the Suzuki Escudo) instead?. I am sure alot more people like the 205 GTi because it's considered one of the best hot hatches ever.
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yes indeed they could, but as you look to the exposure GT5 has worldwide it wouldn't be a wise business deal.

Peugeot obvisiouly is hoping to sell more cars through their presence in GT5. (and knowing the 307 still is being sold in europe (at least)....it actually very logical.

The 205 is out of production, and the pikes peak models aren't for the "people". They added the 205 as a standard car though.
 
AcceptYourDeath
Whats your point? Don`t you think a big part of their work is based on pictures anyway?

Do they have to own another license just to show the interior?
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Maybe they do. But the licence is just the third step of a list that all has to be fulfilled for a car to be in the game. They then have to get one and get the capture team in the same place at the same time.

jmsbrydon
Ok then how about this. Seeing as Peugoet gave them a license to the 307 they could of easily gave them a license to the 205 GTi or the Pikes Peak cars (we have the Suzuki Escudo) instead?
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It doesn't work like that - a licence for the Peugeot 307 isn't a licence for Peugeot. As others point out, Peugeot would be more interested in getting current cars exposure in a game like GT so they can sell some, rather than historic models which would just add a scenetax that Peugeot don't profit from.

That notwithstanding, an issue with older cars is that they're rarer and, outside of museum cars which are rarely permitted to be driven, have to be organised with the consent of private individuals. And they're rarer in standard form. Half of the 205 GTIs I know of have 2.0 engine conversions (either Citroen BX or 405 Mi16) - which, while I'm sure it's useful to know if GT ever permits engine swaps, doesn't fit the "car encyclopaedia" ethos of GT.

So they'd need a licence from Peugeot for that specific model, they'd need to find a standard one privately, they'd need an agreement with the owner of that specific car, they'd need to either get it to the capture team or get the capture team to the car (which is a long haul flight from Japan for one car - unless they can organise another track day and the owner might not be available on that day) and then they could spend 6 months getting it into the game.
 
And how long was the game in development for?
 
ZacharySim
All of us think that we don't like it, they delete it.
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Really? How in the world is PD going to have any idea what its fans/customers think with ZERO communication with said fans/customers? I have more or less always been annoyed with GT's car list since GT1. Its never a huge issue, but always seems like an easy fix. But as the mod pointed out its not that easy. We all have different tastes in cars, but that also includes PD. PD also doesn't communicate with anyone to find out about these different tastes, hell the official Kaz blog hasn't even been updated since GT for PSP came out. In my eyes PD is old fashioned, whether that's good or bad is up to you and me, personally I like the way Turn 10 does the car list, and communicates. I would settle for PD just communicating.👍
 
In my opinion there is absolutely no point in marketing such a car as 307CC in GT5. In a car game where your ultimate desire is to drive great cars, 307CC just doesn't cut it. It's not fast nor agile. Chicks or guys?!? that in real life would actually buy one are probably more interested how the folding roof works and what the colour of the car is rather than asking how fast the thing goes around Nürburgring. Having a 205GTi that is really fun to drive would more likely divert people to consider Peugeot as their next car. The 207GTi was pretty decent around Monte-Carlo though.
 
johunn
that in real life would actually buy one are probably more interested how the folding roof works and what the colour of the car is rather than asking how fast the thing goes around Nürburgring.
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You seem to not quite 'get' the Gran Turismo series. This is a simulator for people who have a passion for cars. That's more than just 'how fast it goes around the ring'.

Personally, I don't really care for the 207cc, but I understand how some people can see the fun in taking it for a spin around a scenic track.

If topspeed is all you care about, there are F1 games for you.
 
It's great that GT has ordinary cars, like the 306 in it. It's what makes GT what it is. Some of the most fun races in GT are in "ordinary" cars. It's sad that a few children can only equate "top speed" with fun. Go play outside until you grow up.
 
brambos
You seem to not quite 'get' the Gran Turismo series. This is a simulator for people who have a passion for cars. That's more than just 'how fast it goes around the ring'.

Personally, I don't really care for the 207cc, but I understand how some people can see the fun in taking it for a spin around a scenic track.

If topspeed is all you care about, there are F1 games for you.
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Firstly "passion for cars" to me doesn't mean driving some rubbish car in a computer game. Supercars, hot hatches... anything that is even remotely fun to drive or looks good. Sorry, but 307CC does neither.

Secondly... top speed is the least of your worries when going around Nürburgring. It's is much more to do with the overall package and mostly handling. Pretty much the same goes with F1.
 
DanDiplo
It's great that GT has ordinary cars, like the 306 in it. It's what makes GT what it is. Some of the most fun races in GT are in "ordinary" cars. It's sad that a few children can only equate "top speed" with fun. Go play outside until you grow up.
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I agree
 
Guys jeez....OP isn't saying the car shouldn't have been in the game AT ALL....He's simply saying the car didn't necessarily have to be premium. Of course everyone has a different taste but I think 90% of GT customers (rough guess) would prefer a Supra (mentioned before) or some 90's M3 as a premium. The cars I mentioned have always been important for the GT series, PD has their license, they know how the interior looks like.....I don't see the point of choosing the 307 prior to the Supra or whatever either. No offense though because I agree this game became big because of the wide selection of cars, and I suppose the 307 deserves it's place in it.....but then again, premium, really? :/
 
johunn
Firstly "passion for cars" to me doesn't mean driving some rubbish car in a computer game. Supercars, hot hatches... anything that is even remotely fun to drive or looks good. Sorry, but 307CC does neither.
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I totally agree with you.

DanDiplo
It's great that GT has ordinary cars, like the 306 in it. It's what makes GT what it is. Some of the most fun races in GT are in "ordinary" cars. It's sad that a few children can only equate "top speed" with fun. Go play outside until you grow up.
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Sure having ordinary cars is one of the best Gran Turismo aspects, but you are not getting the point, he doesnt say that the 307CC makes Gran Turismo less of a Gran Turismo game.This brings us to a point, the Premium vs Standard issue, back in GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT4 all cars were equal, yeah maybe there was a bit more detail in that and this car, but that's about it, in GT5 however we have this abyss between two groups, where the majority of the cars are the Standards and about 1/5 of them are Premiums.If all cars were equal, this thread wouldn't even exist, but they aren't.Now answer me, would you make the 307CC a standard in exchange of ANY standard car turned into Premium? I doubt you say ''No''.

And don't stereotype someone just because said person has a different opinion than yours, does wanting to drive a car with a slower top speed make you more of a mature person?
 
This game isn't all about race cars, Infact majority of the cars are every day-affordable sports cars. Its a driving simulator. If they made all the super cars and race cars premium, then there would be no premium beginner/low end cars. They need variety so they make some supercars premium, some racecars premium, and some average cars premium.

You guys need to think a little.
 
mani_23
This game isn't all about race cars, Infact majority of the cars are every day-affordable sports cars. Its a driving simulator. If they made all the super cars and race cars premium, then there would be no premium beginner/low end cars. They need variety so they make some supercars premium, some racecars premium, and some average cars premium.

You guys need to think a little.
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206RC....would have even been a better choice for a premium model according to your arguments. :p
 
Think about it this way, If they took this car out, they would not replace it with a buggati veyron, but instead replace it with a car of identical HP and weight.

If you think Everything should be replaced by supercars and race cars, then think again. That would go against what GT is about. Take a moment to think about all the reasons why people may do some of the things they do. Everything has to happen for a reason, If there is something In the game that you find odd, then just know that there was obviously a positive reason why they may have put it in (While there could also be many negative reasons- spotted by the player- around it). Take a couple of seconds from your life to analyze some of these things and not just Whine about it, accomplishing nothing.

Mygroth
206RC....would have even been a better choice for a premium model according to your arguments. :p
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I'll take my chances on that being sarcastic :D
 

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