Wii General Discussion

  • Thread starter DuckRacer
  • 604 comments
  • 49,536 views
But Wii is far ahead on the innovation standpoint. I've said it before: people are buying the Wii for the Wii. The fact is that the Wii can do no more than the other systems compared to what they can do compared to the Wii. Wii will appeal to the emotions of gamers in more ways than the other systems, in my opinion (and that's not to say that ps3 or xbox won't have emotional impact).

I don't want to argue. I just want to have fun. Haha.

Well that is true of course. But Nintendo is making money with the hardware right from the start ( read it somewhere, could search link if necessary ) whereas MS lost money with every sold console.
So much I like the innovation and Nintendo first party games, I still think that we are paying too much. And with "we" I mean the Europeans. 250 EUR vs 186 EUR in Japan. Quite a difference huh ? That's over 75 $. Same withe pads, again over 10% cheaper in Japan. I know that the EUR is strong atm, still I feel a little ripped off... I mean, the motion sense innovation is nice, but not expensive to build obviously, since the remote costs less than a Wireless pad from MS, right ? And the upgraded Game Cube technology ( a little exaggerated I know ;) ) is not really something you could compare with triple core power HD Xbox360...
 
Yeah, guys, I'm not console-bashing, I'm just tired of people underestimating Nintendo and what it can do for you.

Thanks for the link, J. I was going to post it but you beat me to it.
 
Yeah, guys, I'm not console-bashing, I'm just tired of people underestimating Nintendo and what it can do for you.
"Ask not what your Sony can do for you, but what you can do with your Nintendo."

Sorry, but that was tee'd right up for me, I had to. HA HA
Thanks for the link, J. I was going to post it but you beat me to it.
No prob man. By the way, I just noticed your "location" and couldn't help but laugh. I love Mc Chris. He is playing here in Omaha tonight (Sunday), and you can better believe I'm going. I can't get enough of his stuff.

My backpacks, got jets,
I'm Boba, the Fett.
I bounty hunt for Jabba Hut
to finance my Vette."


Classic

Hilg
 
Yea, because swinging my arms around totally taps into my emotions much more than good dialoge and a stunning collection of music :dunce:

Yeah, because the control input of a console has everything to do with the dialogue and soundtrack of the games that will be programmed for it. :dunce:

Considering the popularity of the Wii and the WiiMote, both at E3 and among the ranks of videogame journalists, I think it's pretty safe to assume that anyone who attempts to "diss" the console by complaining about its controller is clutching at straws. :lol:

Omnis
Yeah, guys, I'm not console-bashing, I'm just tired of people underestimating Nintendo and what it can do for you.

Indeed. 👍 I try not to console-bash for unfair reasons.

However, in my opinion, $599, no rumble, simplistic tilt action, a 10-year-old controller design, and the sub-par reliability and build-quality of the PS2 are fair reasons to "bash" the PS3. :indiff:
 
Always a party pooper, eh? If it doesn't have a Playstation badge on the hood, it can't be any good at all, huh?

---

I'm going to agree with most of the "sane" folks here and say that the Wii will certainly be more involving than other titles from the PS3 and 360 collections. Sure, Sony may be able to pass off their motion-sensor crap, but there really haven't been any great innovations with that thus far.

I'm excited by what you will be able to do with the Wii in terms of sports titles, Golf and Tennis especially. It encourages the user to get up an move around, and that would be a great thing for our rather docile nation. Granted, you may look like a "fool" when doing it, but you look just as stupid to someone when you are playing DDR or Guitar Hero, no?

Ohhh wait, I forgot. Those are on the Playstation, so you can't look stupid playing those!

(To let it be known: I'm a huge Guitar Hero fan, and although I'm not the best at it, the important part is that I have fun while doing it!)

You fail to understand what I'm talking about.

He said *emotion*. I just don't think that using the controller is going to "evoke" any emotions that other systems cannot.

Also I'm an avid fan of DDR and Guitar Hero, I also own Beatmania, Guitar Freaks (import) and one of my favorite titles is Donkey Konga.

But of course, anytime I say anything in rebuttal to someones' silly comments in reference to another console, it automatically makes me a fanboy right? Give me a break. You post so little in any other threads, you don't know that much about me. Like Duck say's, I dislike the PSP very much, love my DS, play my 360 regularly (though I haven't bought a game in a while, pretty much just DOA4 for me right now) and plan on buying both PS3 and a Wii.

My point was, aside from changing the control aspect, I'm not going to be any more involved in the experience, the game, maybe, but it's not going to pull out hidden emotions. I'll be just as scared playing Silent Hill on a PS3 / 360 as I would be playing it on a Wii.

Wolfe - Give it a rest, there's no need to always be personal, and apparently, judging by your response, you didn't even understand the context of my thread. Sarcasm is very hard to convey on the internet.

What I was speaking about was Control and Music/dialogue in a comparison. You cannot say that Control will evoke emotion in the user "more" than anything else, because it's not true. It may involve us more, or make us feel a bit more interactive with the game, but that's more of a novelty anyway, soon those feelings pass, and you're still playing a game.

No one is "dissing" the Wiimote, at all, certainly not me. I'm simply "dissing" (really, must you use such a simple word? it sounds so uneducated) the idea that the Wiimote will bring "more" emotion out in the user than good music and dialogue, etc.
 
You cannot say that Control will evoke emotion in the user "more" than anything else, because it's not true.
You can no more say it ISN'T true as much as he can say it IS true at this point. No one knows. He thinks it might, you think it won't. Neither of you have any position to say one is definitively correct, so just let it go.

Hilg
 
You can no more say it ISN'T true as much as he can say it IS true at this point. No one knows. He thinks it might, you think it won't. Neither of you have any position to say one is definitively correct, so just let it go.

Hilg

Yes, agreed. Jeremy, I'm not here to fight. However, you have to agree with and acknowledge the fact that a completely new form of control will evoke the senses in SOME new or different way that we have not previously experienced with button-pushing and orthodox control. That is what I'm looking forward to. I'm just throwing more vegetables into the soup.
 
I think it's very likely that some Wii-mote action can stir the gamer's emotion. But like JNasty said, I guess we won't know for sure yet.

If the controllers don't, the increased level of trash talk will though. :sly:
 
You fail to understand what I'm talking about...

...But of course, anytime I say anything in rebuttal to someones' silly comments in reference to another console, it automatically makes me a fanboy right? Give me a break. You post so little in any other threads, you don't know that much about me...

...Wolfe - Give it a rest, there's no need to always be personal, and apparently, judging by your response, you didn't even understand the context of my thread. Sarcasm is very hard to convey on the internet.

You can't jump into threads, making blanket statements about people or consoles, under the guise of a very immature tone (sarcastic or not), and expect everyone to go "ah ha ha, Jeremy, you're so funny, because you actually like the Wii, own a 360, and hate the PSP!"

Every time someone calls you out on one of these posts, you always try to back out and go "I'm insulted that you would say that, because I'm intelligent and blah blah..." It's really rather ridiculous. If you were so intelligent, you wouldn't be putting yourself in a position to defend your integrity like this.

Oh, and sarcasm is easy enough to convey in forums. You just need to use enough bold/italic/underline and smiley faces to make it painfully obvious. After all, you had very little trouble detecting my mocking tone in the "Wii to make US debut" thread.

No one is "dissing" the Wiimote, at all, certainly not me. I'm simply "dissing" (really, must you use such a simple word? it sounds so uneducated) the idea that the Wiimote will bring "more" emotion out in the user than good music and dialogue, etc.

Did I not put "diss" in quotation marks? In any case, the maturity of using that word equated the maturity of the post I was referring to, sarcasm or no sarcasm. :rolleyes:
 
I still think it's childish and ridiculous to "root" for your "favorite" console, and think that the effect of coming in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd really matters to the point where it requires your die hard attitude to say one sucks over the other.

I realize there are differences in hardware, and debate them all the time, however, I'm not going to swear my holy faith to one or the other. If someone say's something that makes no sense, I'll call them on it, regardless of the console.

If someone were to say the 360 could do yada yada, I'd call them on it.

If they said the PS3 could do yada yada yada, I'd call them on that too.

But going out on limbs and saying "oh this console sucks because the price tag is expensive whine whine whine"...well that's just teenage behavior at it's best.
 
I still think it's childish and ridiculous to "root" for your "favorite" console, and think that the effect of coming in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd really matters to the point where it requires your die hard attitude to say one sucks over the other.

I realize there are differences in hardware, and debate them all the time, however, I'm not going to swear my holy faith to one or the other. If someone say's something that makes no sense, I'll call them on it, regardless of the console.

If someone were to say the 360 could do yada yada, I'd call them on it.

If they said the PS3 could do yada yada yada, I'd call them on that too.

But going out on limbs and saying "oh this console sucks because the price tag is expensive whine whine whine"...well that's just teenage behavior at it's best.

What is it about videogame consoles that makes it immature, in your eyes, to express opinions about them? How are they different from anything else? Would you belittle someone for preferring McDonald's over Burger King, Windows XP over MacOSX, Chevrolet over Ford, or the New York Times over the Washington Post? It's all the same.
 
DUH!!! Everyone knows Jack-In-the-Box is WAAAAY better than McDs and BK. I can't believe how silly you are acting thinking that other nonsense. Jeez.

:lol:

Hilg

I've actually never had Jack-in-the-Box, myself. By the way, you do realize that Jeremy is going to quote you and imply that every other post here has been made in the same immature tone, right? :lol:
 
What is it about videogame consoles that makes it immature, in your eyes, to express opinions about them? How are they different from anything else? Would you belittle someone for preferring McDonald's over Burger King, Windows XP over MacOSX, Chevrolet over Ford, or the New York Times over the Washington Post? It's all the same.

If some one were in this thread, saying that BK is a ripoff because they put too many pickels and tomatoes (or other toppings) on their burgers, but charge too much, so instead you should buy Micky D's for a cheaper price...followed by something silly about how BK is going to fail, or BK is going down in the face of Micky D's...yes, I'd do the exact same thing.

Why would you root for a Fast Food place like it was a football team? The same applies to consoles. It's silly. It's cool to have a preference, it's nice to like one better, but it's absolutely silly to sit here and think that you not liking one, and it's "place" in the race is going to effect you at all.

If you like BK, and they come in second to Micky D's, then you still like BK, and they're still there. What's the difference? That you're eating a second place burger? Are you suddenly going to change sides since your burger isn't 1st place?


Exactly, hopefully now you see the light.
 
If some one were in this thread, saying that BK is a ripoff because they put too many pickels and tomatoes (or other toppings) on their burgers, but charge too much, so instead you should buy Micky D's for a cheaper price...followed by something silly about how BK is going to fail, or BK is going down in the face of Micky D's...yes, I'd do the exact same thing.

The first part of that paragraph is perfectly acceptable, in my opinion.

The second part, talking about how BK is going to fail, is silly, as you descibed it, but also not representative of the talk that's going on in here.

There may not be a whole lot of proof to back up the claims, but the idea that Sony will be in a world of trouble if the PS3 doesn't do well enough is not entirely unfounded. They're already having trouble with PSP sales, the UMD movie format is all but dead, and so many PS2's have been giving their owners mechanical troubles that Sony is going to have a hard time establishing itself as a reliable console manufacturer. I'm sure the PS3 was not cheap to produce, they're probably losing money on every console built, and there is enough negative speculation about the PS3 out there that sales will very likely be affected, whether it's by a lot or only a little.

You're mixing speculation and opinion together, and apparently reading our posts as if we were 13-year-old Counterstrike players. It also seems like you're also taking things way too seriously, and completely missing the light-hearted tone that many of the comments here had before you showed up. No wonder you think this thread is so ugly.

Why would you root for a Fast Food place like it was a football team? The same applies to consoles. It's silly. It's cool to have a preference, it's nice to like one better, but it's absolutely silly to sit here and think that you not liking one, and it's "place" in the race is going to effect you at all.

If you like BK, and they come in second to Micky D's, then you still like BK, and they're still there. What's the difference? That you're eating a second place burger? Are you suddenly going to change sides since your burger isn't 1st place?

It's awfully naive to think that a console's "place" in the console wars has no effect on the end user. Look at how many high-quality titles there are for the XBOX and PS2, and then do the same with the GameCube and Dreamcast. The difference should be very obvious.

Still, I have yet to "change sides"...even though I play a PS2 almost every day, the PS2 in question is always either my sister's, or one of my friends'. The only console I own from the last console-war is a GameCube, and the only non-Nintendo console I've ever owned is a Genesis that's still sitting in my attic to this day. I may enjoy playing games on other consoles, but I'm still a Nintendo guy at heart. I did promise myself a long time ago that I would "change sides" if the Revolution looked like it was going to be as lack-luster as the GameCube ended up being, but the Wii has shattered all of those expectations.

In the end, I'm simply hoping that my favorite of the three next-gen consoles, the Wii, does well -- the availability of good games for the console in its later years depends on it -- and expressing my opinion that the PS3 "sucks," because I think it does. It's just like saying "BK is a ripoff because they put too many pickels and tomatoes (or other toppings) on their burgers, but charge too much..." Is that such a wrong thing to say?

Exactly, hopefully now you'll take your eyes away from the "light" and allow them to adjust a bit so that you can read the posts in this forum a little more closely.
 
1) UMD was never a movie format, it was simply a bonus of the storage format, that is had enough space to store a movie.

2) The PSP is not "suffering", it is simply not enjoying the success that the DS is. WIth that said, the PSP is still selling around the same amount of units as the PS2 did when it made it's debut (with the exclusion of it's launch).

3) The GameCube was no where near a "lackluster" console. The fact is, it went under appreciated because it was significantly overshadowed by the populatirty of PS2 and Xbox, and *did not* have GTA type games. If GTA were never around, and Sandbox games did not evolve the way they did (to become excessivly violent catering to the 15 year old who thinks it's cool) then the GC would have enjoyed much more success.

The fact that there are hundreds of games in development, 10,000 shipped development kits (which are purchased from Sony) and a plethora of AAA titles arriving in 2007 (in comparison to the 360, which still had AAA titles, but not quite as many). There is no logical way to think Sony will "fail" or that being in 3rd place will effect them in any way shape or form. Especially the software selection. Companies have bought the kits, and they will ship multiplatform games to both the 360 and PS3, since their power is similar, and it's only extra money to be made on both platforms, regardless of place.

The Xbox was in 3rd place in Japan, and BARELY 2nd in the US and Europe, yet it still got outstanding support.

Or how about the fact that the PS2 outsold the 360 6 out of it's first 7 months on the market? THat fact alone brings in a lot of profit for Sony, and they only stand to make more as a rumored $30 price cut is on the way for Sony, dropping the PS2 to $99. That will give them PLENTY of financial "play room" to work with, as will large 1st party sales of titles like Socom 4 and God of War 2.

With that kind of money, Sony will be able to keep the PS3 afloat very easily, and the exclusive games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Socom, and Gran Turismo will *ensure* that consoles will sell at the release of each new title to some fan who was waiting to buy the console for "that" game.

So, yes, crying over who is best is still ridiculous. Fact is, it's not going to effect anything this generation. Sony and MS will be very close, and Nintendo is in a completely different market this go 'round.
 
First of all, I want to commend you on the good posting. It was very well thought out, and went without any outrageous namecalling etc. You deserve kudos for that one! But, I still have a few issues...

The fact that there are hundreds of games in development, 10,000 shipped development kits (which are purchased from Sony) and a plethora of AAA titles arriving in 2007 (in comparison to the 360, which still had AAA titles, but not quite as many). There is no logical way to think Sony will "fail" or that being in 3rd place will effect them in any way shape or form. Especially the software selection. Companies have bought the kits, and they will ship multiplatform games to both the 360 and PS3, since their power is similar, and it's only extra money to be made on both platforms, regardless of place.

Heres the thing though; Having 10,000 dev kits on the market doesn't mean anything, it just signifies that there are people who want to make games for the PS3. Maybe 3K of those went EA, maybe 2K to Ubisoft, etc and that may even include dev kits that went to Sony's companies themselves.

Beyond that, even if that meant that there are several hundred games in the works, that doesn't make them good in any way either. I would dare to say that atleast 35% of the titles that were on the PS2 were indeed sub-par, many companies looking to cash-in a licence or just to make a quick buck. Big Motha Truckas? Starsky and Hutch? NHRA Drag Racing? Yeah...

As for the AAA title selection, everyone mentions it, but I have failed to see what is going to be really great beyond Resistance at launch. Most of the other title's arrivals have yet to be announced offically, but most rational people could see them comming no earlier than the spring of 2007 or the later fall gaming season in time for the one-year anniversary of the PS3.

Granted, I'm not going to deny titles like MGS4, RE5, and Tekken 6... But the rest of the PS3 lineup looks a bit like the 360s, as most of them are indeed third-party multi-platform titles...

The Xbox was in 3rd place in Japan, and BARELY 2nd in the US and Europe, yet it still got outstanding support.

Yes, completely true. Money speaks louder than words of course, and I'm sure that Microsoft was smart enough to work out some deals for some great titles. That said, many people moved to the Microsoft camp due to the predicted "impossibility" of programing on a PS3, the ease of use with programs like XNA for programing, and the fact that it was launched first.

...But, I'm not from any of these companies, so I can't be completely sure...

Or how about the fact that the PS2 outsold the 360 6 out of it's first 7 months on the market? THat fact alone brings in a lot of profit for Sony, and they only stand to make more as a rumored $30 price cut is on the way for Sony, dropping the PS2 to $99. That will give them PLENTY of financial "play room" to work with, as will large 1st party sales of titles like Socom 4 and God of War 2.

In another ha-ha moment, I believe the DS was outselling the PS2 at the same time, no? Part of it is Microsoft's doing, as there weren't enough 360s to meet demand, much less enough backing of the console on behalf of multiple titles worth having.

The PS2 sales will probably remain fairly "stong" into the life of the PS3, but games will be the big sellers, as I can't think of many people who are going to skip titles like God of War 2. Of course as you say, that equals more money for Sony... But it still isn't enough...

Sony posted a loss I belive over the past two quarters now, mostly due to development of the PS3, the lack of UMD support, and now the whole laptop battery situation that has caused a few problems as well. Granted Sony will eventually make money on the PS3, but I belive that given the current situation with low Cell Processor Yeilds, poor laser reader yeilds, and the 500K launch setup... Sony can probably expect another quarter, maybe even 2006 as a whole, to come at a loss to the company.

With that kind of money, Sony will be able to keep the PS3 afloat very easily, and the exclusive games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Socom, and Gran Turismo will *ensure* that consoles will sell at the release of each new title to some fan who was waiting to buy the console for "that" game.

Certainly so, but the majority of those titles there aren't due untill 2007... The early life of the PS3 may have the same probelm as the 360, a barren wasteland of "so-so" titles with a few good ones sprinkled here and there. Their flagship titles will sell units later on down the road, there isn't any questioning that, but even then, Microsoft and Nintendo have their flagship titles on the horizon as well...

So, yes, crying over who is best is still ridiculous. Fact is, it's not going to effect anything this generation. Sony and MS will be very close, and Nintendo is in a completely different market this go 'round.

It is silly to argue over whos number one per-se, but one cannot argue against the importance of being number one. In this race, Sony has everything to lose, Microsoft and Nintendo having everything to gain. The cards have been dealt, and it will only be a matter of time (probably 5-6 years down the road) that a winner can be declared.

Will it be the over-teched LS460 (PS3)? The Cadillac STS that can suit multiple tastes (360)? Or will it be the entry-level RL/Legend (Wii)?
 
1) UMD was never a movie format, it was simply a bonus of the storage format, that is had enough space to store a movie.

2) The PSP is not "suffering", it is simply not enjoying the success that the DS is. WIth that said, the PSP is still selling around the same amount of units as the PS2 did when it made it's debut (with the exclusion of it's launch).

3) The GameCube was no where near a "lackluster" console. The fact is, it went under appreciated because it was significantly overshadowed by the populatirty of PS2 and Xbox, and *did not* have GTA type games. If GTA were never around, and Sandbox games did not evolve the way they did (to become excessivly violent catering to the 15 year old who thinks it's cool) then the GC would have enjoyed much more success.

The fact that there are hundreds of games in development, 10,000 shipped development kits (which are purchased from Sony) and a plethora of AAA titles arriving in 2007 (in comparison to the 360, which still had AAA titles, but not quite as many). There is no logical way to think Sony will "fail" or that being in 3rd place will effect them in any way shape or form. Especially the software selection. Companies have bought the kits, and they will ship multiplatform games to both the 360 and PS3, since their power is similar, and it's only extra money to be made on both platforms, regardless of place.

The Xbox was in 3rd place in Japan, and BARELY 2nd in the US and Europe, yet it still got outstanding support.

Or how about the fact that the PS2 outsold the 360 6 out of it's first 7 months on the market? THat fact alone brings in a lot of profit for Sony, and they only stand to make more as a rumored $30 price cut is on the way for Sony, dropping the PS2 to $99. That will give them PLENTY of financial "play room" to work with, as will large 1st party sales of titles like Socom 4 and God of War 2.

With that kind of money, Sony will be able to keep the PS3 afloat very easily, and the exclusive games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Socom, and Gran Turismo will *ensure* that consoles will sell at the release of each new title to some fan who was waiting to buy the console for "that" game.

So, yes, crying over who is best is still ridiculous. Fact is, it's not going to effect anything this generation. Sony and MS will be very close, and Nintendo is in a completely different market this go 'round.

...but xbox is gay.




Hahahahaha. Good points. I'm glad we agree on nintendo.
 
1) UMD was never a movie format, it was simply a bonus of the storage format, that is had enough space to store a movie.

I've heard that Sony wanted to see the UMD become a new full-fledged alternative movie format, partially to help justify the costs of developing the format. Needless to say, it isn't going to happen.

2) The PSP is not "suffering", it is simply not enjoying the success that the DS is. WIth that said, the PSP is still selling around the same amount of units as the PS2 did when it made it's debut (with the exclusion of it's launch).

How many is that, though? As we all know, Sony didn't produce enough PS2s when it first launched, and there were supply shortages.

3) The GameCube was no where near a "lackluster" console. The fact is, it went under appreciated because it was significantly overshadowed by the populatirty of PS2 and Xbox, and *did not* have GTA type games. If GTA were never around, and Sandbox games did not evolve the way they did (to become excessivly violent catering to the 15 year old who thinks it's cool) then the GC would have enjoyed much more success.

The reason why I call the GameCube a lackluster system is because, as you said, it went underappreciated. I wouldn't blame Nintendo completely for that, but things like the compromised storage space of the physically smaller GCN discs, lack of support for online play, and reportedly hard-to-use development kits didn't help.

Basically, I think we're on the same page with this.

The fact that there are hundreds of games in development, 10,000 shipped development kits (which are purchased from Sony) and a plethora of AAA titles arriving in 2007 (in comparison to the 360, which still had AAA titles, but not quite as many). There is no logical way to think Sony will "fail" or that being in 3rd place will effect them in any way shape or form. Especially the software selection. Companies have bought the kits, and they will ship multiplatform games to both the 360 and PS3, since their power is similar, and it's only extra money to be made on both platforms, regardless of place.

As YSSMAN said, the distribution of development kits does not imply that good games will be made, and it doesn't even ensure that all of the companies that received them will end up releasing a game.

The Xbox was in 3rd place in Japan, and BARELY 2nd in the US and Europe, yet it still got outstanding support.

Barely beating the GameCube in sales is something that should be expected when comparing a Nintendo product to a newcomer's first console. The sales numbers of the consoles may not be very different, but what about the sale of games? I wouldn't be surprised if many of those GameCube sales went to an owner who maybe bought a handful of games, but then gave up on the system, like myself, and several GameCube owners I know.

Or how about the fact that the PS2 outsold the 360 6 out of it's first 7 months on the market? THat fact alone brings in a lot of profit for Sony, and they only stand to make more as a rumored $30 price cut is on the way for Sony, dropping the PS2 to $99. That will give them PLENTY of financial "play room" to work with, as will large 1st party sales of titles like Socom 4 and God of War 2.

With that kind of money, Sony will be able to keep the PS3 afloat very easily, and the exclusive games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Socom, and Gran Turismo will *ensure* that consoles will sell at the release of each new title to some fan who was waiting to buy the console for "that" game.

Good points, but it remains to be seen. Sony might be able pull through and stay on top thanks the remaining sales of the PS2 and its popular franchises, but they might fall behind this time around, too.

It's not like I'm pulling this "Sony is in trouble" idea out of my ass. You've probably seen that article, or something like it, anyway.

So, yes, crying over who is best is still ridiculous. Fact is, it's not going to effect anything this generation.

No one's crying here. Also, I still maintain that a console's success affects the games available for it, and I still think you're confusing speculation and opinion. In any case, I think we can call an end to that part of the discussion.
 
I see jagged edges.
Thats because you see a screen shot, not live action. Every game, no matter what system, will have some visible jaggies. Even on a high end PC, with max AA and AF on, if you freeze it for a screen shot, you'll see something. But, when in motion, they are very hard to see. Especially in a fast paced game, like Zelda.

Hilg
 
Well, it depends. I saw screenshots for Pokemon Colosseum and it looked a lot better than this screenshot, and that was on a magazine.
 
Well, it depends. I saw screenshots for Pokemon Colosseum and it looked a lot better than this screenshot, and that was on a magazine.
Is this better....

Hilg

92851920060823screen004ab0.jpg
 
Well, it depends. I saw screenshots for Pokemon Colosseum and it looked a lot better than this screenshot, and that was on a magazine.

Would you like me to photoshop the zelda pic likewise?
 
Also, a PC monitor will reveal jaggies much easier than a (non-HD, non-big-screen) TV will. Especially if it's sitting on a desk in front of your face, rather than across the room from your couch.

The same goes for the printed page of a magazine, photoshopping or not.
 
Back