Wil you watch American Top Gear?

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**** I missed it!!
Internet on History.com, or check your listings for one of the three or four times they re-air it this week.


Joey, I agree about Michelle Rodriguez. She was annoying.
 
It's good to know some people fell the way i do, I still have yet to watch it, and don't think i will. It'll almost feel like..Cheating on a girlfriend (if that make's any sense) I have seen clips where they to copy thing's from the UK Top Gear, "Big star in a small car" Even the intro music!!! Not cool...
 
Oddly enough, I actually kinda enjoyed this episode. It feels weird to type but it's true. I think the show might be finding it's feet. But there is still work to be done. And Tanner is the only one that is comfortable in front of a camera.
 
Hello everyone,

I have kinda skimmed through this tread and I have seen a lot of negative remarks about the American version of Top Gear. First, I would like to say that no, the American version of Top Gear is no where close to the caliber of the UK Version of Top Gear. The thing is....watch the first season or two of Top Gear UK and then compare it to the US version. Yes, the same people who write and produce the UK version are the people who are also working with the UK version, thus the rehashes of UK episodes, but you have to understand that this show is geared toward people who have not seen the UK version. Yes, they are copying the same challenges the UK guys did, and no they are not that good but I think this show is coming along fairly well and I think they will take off on their own challenges come the second season.

All I ask is give them a couple more episodes before we judge them too negatively; they might just surprise you.
 
Hello everyone,

I have kinda skimmed through this tread and I have seen a lot of negative remarks about the American version of Top Gear. First, I would like to say that no, the American version of Top Gear is no where close to the caliber of the UK Version of Top Gear. The thing is....watch the first season or two of Top Gear UK and then compare it to the US version. Yes, the same people who write and produce the UK version are the people who are also working with the UK version, thus the rehashes of UK episodes, but you have to understand that this show is geared toward people who have not seen the UK version. Yes, they are copying the same challenges the UK guys did, and no they are not that good but I think this show is coming along fairly well and I think they will take off on their own challenges come the second season.

All I ask is give them a couple more episodes before we judge them too negatively; they might just surprise you.

I agree with everything you say. They just need to get a hang of the show and then it'll get better. I'm enjoying it 100% and hope to see many more seasons of it.
 
I've decided to do the same thing to TG US that I did (inadvertently) to TG UK: not watch the first few seasons and then start watching when it gets good.
 
The TV world is insane people!

They didnt just buy the rights for the show, the format, the title, the logo and the set but they even took the Stig away from the REAL Top Gear show.

I dont know if u know this but over here in the UK there are similar shows like Fifth Gear and they never took off because largely it was the personalities of the hosts that made Top Gear the success it is.

So having watched the US ripoff with those nursery school hosts trying to be funny, Im never watching it again and shame on the Stig for selling out, he was so important to the UK show and it wont be the same again without that shameless, spineless, tactless tit of a driver to run the lap times.

I am fuming about it tbh. All Americans out there just watch the original please, it is and always will be better, and it features American muscle too btw its not exactly British biased so there never was a need for a US version.

What TV execs are even doing now is this: US hit show >> UK network buys rights makes UK version >> becomes hit >> US network makes a version of that. And the same works vice versa.

Trust me guys i've been seein this a lot lately - soon we'll be seeing versions of versions of versions of versions it is truly insane.


"Why hath humanity handed its creative process to the moneymen?" - possibly a bumper sticker on your nearest UFO
 
You do realise the Australian version and I'm fairly certain the Russian version both have the Stig right?
 
You do realise the Australian version and I'm fairly certain the Russian version both have the Stig right?

ye but the US version has the same actual person not just the name/costume etc...

have u seen the UK version lately, they are all constantly berating him as though he was the Devil for leaving the show - they might as well burn an effigy of him lol
 
ye but the US version has the same actual person not just the name/costume etc...

have u seen the UK version lately, they are all constantly berating him as though he was the Devil for leaving the show - they might as well burn an effigy of him lol

Are you sure? I have read nothing saying that Ben Collins left Top Gear to join the cast of the US Top Gear.
 
Are you sure? I have read nothing saying that Ben Collins left Top Gear to join the cast of the US Top Gear.

not 100% but if u think about it if they use a different racer in other countries then i guess "the stig" is whoevers wearing the suit.

but the fact is its hard enough to compare cars accurately even on the same circuit with the same driver - when that driver leaves though any subsequent lap times aren't exactly going to be comparable - thats what annoys me about his having left the show

whether he is the one on the US version i dont know and i must admit i just assumed it, but really the racer isnt important its just having the same racer all the time which is important i reckon
 
The TV world is insane people!
I assumed you were being tongue-in-cheek with this post, but then you kept going back and forth with Joey, so...

They didnt just buy the rights for the show, the format, the title, the logo and the set but they even took the Stig away from the REAL Top Gear show.
Uh, what? BBC is making this show under their BBC America (or is it BBC Worldwide?) production company. The same one that makes the US copies of crappy game shows. No one bought anything except the right to be the channel to broadcast the show. Most of the creative team behind this version have worked on the UK version and are BBC employees.

I dont know if u know this but over here in the UK there are similar shows like Fifth Gear and they never took off because largely it was the personalities of the hosts that made Top Gear the success it is.
Fifth Gear never took off? For 18 series, 16 before cancellation rumors? Eight years is pretty good for a TV show by American standards.

So having watched the US ripoff with those nursery school hosts trying to be funny, Im never watching it again and shame on the Stig for selling out, he was so important to the UK show and it wont be the same again without that shameless, spineless, tactless tit of a driver to run the lap times.
Are you mad at Ben Collins? Because you know he was in the middle of a lawsuit with the BBC when the American episodes were being filmed, right? Nor is he the first Stig to have outed himself and then forced to leave the show.

I am fuming about it tbh. All Americans out there just watch the original please, it is and always will be better, and it features American muscle too btw its not exactly British biased so there never was a need for a US version.
Not all Americans have legal access to all but two or three series. That is why this show was made. And did you ever think that this is Top Gear with American TV styling? I know a lot of Americans that think the British programming is crap because "The English have a horrible sense of humor that doesn't make any sense."

Fortunately for History Channel, this show was never intended for you to watch and you won't hurt their ratings.

What TV execs are even doing now is this: US hit show >> UK network buys rights makes UK version >> becomes hit >> US network makes a version of that. And the same works vice versa.
What show went that route? I have seen it go UK Show -> American Show and American Show -> UK Show, but never back and forth for the same show like that. Not that I would put it past Simon Cowell though.

Trust me guys i've been seein this a lot lately - soon we'll be seeing versions of versions of versions of versions it is truly insane.
No cross-country show trading is needed. We have or have had three (or four?) CSIs, four Law & Orders and two Dragnets (which Law & order was based on). And every single sitcom featuring a married couple as the main characters has dumb, fat husband with hot, smart wife. If you think we will see this in the future I am guessing you are young.

have u seen the UK version lately, they are all constantly berating him as though he was the Devil for leaving the show - they might as well burn an effigy of him lol
Well, he did violate a contract and get fired. By the way, he didn't leave, they fired him.

not 100% but if u think about it if they use a different racer in other countries then i guess "the stig" is whoevers wearing the suit.

but the fact is its hard enough to compare cars accurately even on the same circuit with the same driver - when that driver leaves though any subsequent lap times aren't exactly going to be comparable - thats what annoys me about his having left the show
Where were you when black Stig left? Age alone would have likely necessitated a new Stig by now.

whether he is the one on the US version i dont know and i must admit i just assumed it, but really the racer isnt important its just having the same racer all the time which is important i reckon
So on the US show, where the track is different and the lap times aren't compared to the UK show's in anyway, whoever The Stig is doesn't really matter so long as it is the same person? Sounds to me like your issue is more that you are mad about The Stig changing on the UK show. Ben Collins didn't openly choose to leave, although he had to know that his actions would result in his being fired. Blame Ben Collins for this issue and leave the US Top Gear out of it. The timing doesn't work right for him to be the US Stig between his lawsuit and his races in the LMS.




As for who The Stig is on the US show: It is plausible that it is Tanner, since he is a real life race car driver, and champion in two different racing series, but I think that there is enough evidence to say it is not for me to not entertain the notion. I am guessing it is someone like Rhys Millen (who Tanner has worked with in the past and has a similar background) or maybe even Paul Tracy (started thinking this after watching Supercar Showdown on Speed - plus, the guy has no full-time ride right now).
 
@Barcelonic,

Actually Ben Collins went to be a presenter on Fifth Gear. That is why the TGUK guys have been so venomous about his departure, that and it being a huge stab in the back for them.
 
But the Top Gear guys don't hate Fifth Gear, they even brought Tiff in as a replacement Stig of sorts. They hate Collins because he outer himself despite being under contract and ruining the whole mystery of who the Stig is/was.
 
But the Top Gear guys don't hate Fifth Gear, they even brought Tiff in as a replacement Stig of sorts. They hate Collins because he outer himself despite being under contract and ruining the whole mystery of who the Stig is/was.

Sorry, I might have been mistaking...been a while since I have watched the regular episodes of TGUK but didn't they blame Fifth Gear for burning their cool wall and other various studio props or does TGUK and Fifth Gear go back and forth like that. (Don't watch Fifth Gear at all so not sure).
 
It's all in good fun, I think they have a friendly rivalry but don't hate one another. Although if Collins is there now it might change.
 
Well, I did hear the rumor and then the guardian and the daily fail said the same thing so not 100% sure it is true but about 95% sure he is over there now.

Anyway, this is supposed to be about TGUSA and so far I really like it. Can't wait for the Alaska special to see how everything goes. From the clip on the History Channel's website, looks like the guys are dreading it which could make it all that better.
 
I've decided to do the same thing to TG US that I did (inadvertently) to TG UK: not watch the first few seasons and then start watching when it gets good.

The first seasons were the best.
 
Wow. Oh wow. Please don't hold back on my account, say what's really on your mind

BBC is making this show under their BBC America (or is it BBC Worldwide?) production company. The same one that makes the US copies of crappy game shows. No one bought anything except the right to be the channel to broadcast the show. Most of the creative team behind this version have worked on the UK version and are BBC employees.

BBC is paid for by British television licencing fees. Therefore can you imagine a scenario where the BBC would spend money producing a show for an American network? The director of the new US version and his company are American, so I take it you know all of the so called British crew personally?


Fifth Gear never took off? For 18 series, 16 before cancellation rumors? Eight years is pretty good for a TV show by American standards.

OK allow me to rephrase - it was a terrible show imo. Happier now?

Not all Americans have legal access to all but two or three series. That is why this show was made.

OK well given how i wouldnt know that, what your saying is if i had you'd have saved yourself the embarassment of showing us your aggro side.

And did you ever think that this is Top Gear with American TV styling? I know a lot of Americans that think the British programming is crap because "The English have a horrible sense of humor that doesn't make any sense."

You say this as though I don't already know, which is amusing cus its pretty well known that Americans rarely get British humor. When Jay Leno was asked to host the show he himself said that an American version simply wouldnt work because American media is all corporate owned whereas BBC isnt so they can get away with saying things you couldnt in America - he was partly right, but its not just the BBC it is the whole of Europe, Australia and Canada - when you watch TV in the UK every night you see people mocking the PM in the worst possible ways and its great its called freedom of speech, something the US seems to find a threat.

In the US however you treat your ruler like an emperor. You have to address him as "Mr President" lmfao, and if you ever criticise your government you're 'unamerican' or 'unpatriotic' or worse. The Dixie Chicks had death threats and it basically ruined their career.

So please before you begin your next racist rant against our teeth or some such thing, please reconsider as there is no point acting like a child simply because you dont like or agree with something Ive posted.


you know he was in the middle of a lawsuit with the BBC when the American episodes were being filmed, right?

What is this even supposed to mean exactly? A lawsuit is when two parties differ on something. The way you wrote that it almost sounded like you were saying he's the 'bad guy'. I am not mad at Collins i was wrong about a lot of things and it seems he's actually been unfairly treated by TGUK in my eyes.



Fortunately for History Channel, this show was never intended for you to watch and you won't hurt their ratings.

Have my posts really horrified you so much I've managed to reveal your organ inferiority to the entire forum? If you're unsure on the term it is an Adlerian concept not a snide, uncalled for insult. I guess I dont have as much hate in me as you, so congrats pal you win! :)

Besides, getting to educate an American such as yourself on world history would be quite amusing and definitely something Id be up for. PM me when you're ready to switch off HC and pick up a book, or a globe (a spherical atlas btw, oh and an atlas is kind of like a map of the places beyond US borders, you should be able to pick one up locally im sure).


What show went that route? I have seen it go UK Show -> American Show and American Show -> UK Show, but never back and forth for the same show like that. Not that I would put it past Simon Cowell though.

Coupling was the British equivalent of Friends - a blatant ripoff and eveyone who saw it knows that. Then it gets replicated in the US practically word for word. And not that it matters but Im getting rather sick of US networks having to steal our TV shows, actors and directors. I would imagine you havent even noticed the influx of British actors on American TV? Many liberal Americans today are ashamed to call themselves Americans after the events of the last decade and Brit-fever has hit your shores whether you see it or not.

No cross-country show trading is needed. We have or have had three (or four?) CSIs, four Law & Orders and two Dragnets (which Law & order was based on). And every single sitcom featuring a married couple as the main characters has dumb, fat husband with hot, smart wife. If you think we will see this in the future I am guessing you are young.

If those words really just came about of your brain then i am guessing you are a bit thick lol. Maybe you'll want to take another look at what I actually said before you again demonstrate your organ inferiority in plain view of all readers to this page.
If I was young Id be very offended by that remark, but fortunately Im old enough and wise enough to instead be intrigued by the way you use the word 'young' as a derogatory term - again I wouldnt be a good human being if I didnt at least ask you to look that up because its an Adlerian concept in psychology which you have managed to demonstrate (now) 3 times so far in your post lol.


Well, he did violate a contract and get fired. By the way, he didn't leave, they fired him.

Well I guess you've just gone and disproved Socrates, the father of political philosophy, when he said "All i know is that i know nothing at all", because you clearly do seem to have a God-like ability to know all.
Sorry pal but Im going to have to disagree - Id in fact say he went well out of his way to disguise his identity for the show for years and his dismissal from the BBC was wrongful; hence the lawsuit you referred to earlier.


Where were you when black Stig left? Age alone would have likely necessitated a new Stig by now.

Good point amigo, maybe you should have started with this you super-smart fella, you :)

Blame Ben Collins for this issue and leave the US Top Gear out of it. The timing doesn't work right for him to be the US Stig between his lawsuit and his races in the LMS.

Please dont tell me this whole angry tirade at me was because you think Im criticising the US TG?!? All I ever said is it isnt as good as the UK version. And it isnt. And if it ever is it certainly wont be for a while. Im allowed to say this because I 'get' British humor and you don't like it so you are allowed to say the opposite but when you begin attacking the one aspect of our culture im actually rather proud of - our dark, dry humour - I just had to respond in kind because I think someone of your stature on this forum should perhaps behave with a little more sense and hold back your American super-patriotism so that it doesnt offend people and doesnt make your overcompensations so obvious to the world.


Geez i cant believe you made me type all that lol.

I love this forum and you're the first person ive encountered here whose been anything but a gentleman to deal or speak with. All i can do is hope that your 15,000 other posts go some way toward masking your obvious belief in American superiority.

Btw, in the UK we have a comedy show called Never Mind The Buzzcocks and every week they invite a guest from the US and its always the best part of the show for a lot of people because they soon find themselves being made fun of etc... all in the name of good fun, good TV and most importantly FREE SPEECH - that is why you and your friends dont get British humour, because essentially you are not used to being able to see provocative and controversial segments/remarks etc..

Please try to refrain from showing such bigotry without reason. I merely expressed my opinion that UK TG is better than the US version and you quite literally jumped on top of me. I do hope you win a patriotism badge for that!

But seriously its not funny and I would never expect it from a senior member such as yourself.
 
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The US version of Top Gear is produced by BBC Worldwide which is owned and operated by BBC. The director
 
Wow. Oh wow. Please don't hold back on my account, say what's really on your mind

Perhaps you should read some of his posts?

Mostly in this section?

Also, perhaps you should watch some of the US late night talk shows where they rip into the president. We don't "get" British humor because it's just that, British humor. It deals with things revolving around England, I wouldn't expect you to get American comedy as it deals with stuff that is relevant here.

And the whole "Mr. President" thing is called a formality and is in good manners, I'm guessing you wouldn't just walk up and call David Cameron, David Cameron, I'm guessing the formal saying is "Prime Minister Cameron" and during press briefings it's probably "Mr. Prime Minister".

Anyways, I wish History would re-air this weeks episode more, seems like whenever it's listed it's from previous weeks.
 
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Perhaps you should read some of his posts?

Mostly in this section?

We don't "get" British humor because it's just that, British humor. It deals with things revolving around England, I wouldn't expect you to get American comedy as it deals with stuff that is relevant here.

And the whole "Mr. President" thing is called a formality and is in good manners, I'm guessing you wouldn't just walk up and call David Cameron, David Cameron, I'm guessing the formal saying is "Prime Minister Cameron" and during press briefings it's probably "Mr. Prime Minister".

If you're implying he's an intelligent intellectual then I accept that, but as one myself I despise those who seek to put others done and patronise them by calling them young or slyly suggesting they dont watch documentaries.
He knows nothing about me; he doesnt know Im a Mensan of 26yrs of age. He doesnt know my whole life revolves around learning, he doesnt know my understanding of the media industries, particularly American; he doesnt know my heart lies in activism,, and that if I wasnt housebound with an auto-immune disorder Id be doing just that. He knows all this now lol, but he didnt before and if you read his post and pretend you are British for a second Im sure you will appreciate I have a right to be offended by the way he set about his critique, even if some of my points werent accurate - at least ive admitted that in my response.

I genuinely hate British TV in general and i have always said the Americans do it much better. I also like hip-hop yet Im not from the ghetto and i like flamenco even though Im not Spanish. Many Americans do in fact appreciate British humor, most notably perhaps David Schwimmer, and I would assume this is why the BBC first launched BBC America - shows like the Office and Life On Mars plus many others were then able to export over the Atlantic where obviously enough Americans liked them for them to be remade as American shows.

As for the "Mr Prime Minister" thing, Im no authority on this but I would say there may be some formality between ministers but that would be as far as it goes and would most likely be reciprocal. For instance, I know that I could verbally abuse the PM to his face and would face no charges and not be arrested or even detained. But Im genuinely not trying to compete or attack America, just defend myself against what I felt was quite frankly an aggressive overreaction to my post thats all.

The US version of Top Gear is produced by BBC Worldwide which is owned and operated by BBC. The director

Having recently learned from the killer of fools that BBC America is not freely available to all the US, and that some Top Gear UK series were never aired for most of those people, it definitely makes sense for the BBC to want to get Top Gear onto US screens - all I am disputing is that I cannot believe without seeing with my own eyes that the publicly funded (yet fees are a legal requirement for all TV users) British Broadcasting Corporation would ever get away with spending British licence payer fees to fund a show for another country which we wont even benefit from at all.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1657260/fullcredits#cast

Here you'll see a few names listed as consulting producers. Perhaps these are the Brits you refer to, maybe even as you say the director, but the men putting up the money could not possibly be spending BBC funds on that (imo).
 
Anyways, I wish History would re-air this weeks episode more, seems like whenever it's listed it's from previous weeks.

It's on tonight at 9 here, not sure their scheduling in other parts of the country.

Having recently learned from the killer of fools that BBC America is not freely available to all the US, and that some Top Gear UK series were never aired for most of those people, it definitely makes sense for the BBC to want to get Top Gear onto US screens - all I am disputing is that I cannot believe without seeing with my own eyes that the publicly funded (yet fees are a legal requirement for all TV users) British Broadcasting Corporation would ever get away with spending British licence payer fees to fund a show for another country which we wont even benefit from at all.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1657260/fullcredits#cast

Here you'll see a few names listed as consulting producers. Perhaps these are the Brits you refer to, maybe even as you say the director, but the men putting up the money could not possibly be spending BBC funds on that (imo).

Top Gear USA is produced by BBC Worldwide, the company produces a ton of shows all over the globe and many we see here on American TV. They license out BBC shows and make money in the process, which appears to ultimately make your TV shows better. A lot of the stuff we get on the Discovery Channel in the states has been made by BBC Worldwide.
Directly from their website:

BBC Worldwide
WHO WE ARE

BBC Worldwide is the commercial arm and a wholly owned subsidiary of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC). We exist to maximise the value of the BBC's assets for the benefit of the licence fee payer by creating, acquiring, developing and exploiting media content and brands around the world. We also focus on creating value from BBC content and showcasing British talent both in the UK and international markets.

In the past five years the company has invested over £1bn in the UK's creative sector making it a major supporter for this increasingly important part of the 'UK plc'. We also sells programmes and formats produced by more than 500 different UK independent producers.

In 2009/10 the company saw sales rise by 7% to £1074m - exceeding the £1bn mark for a second year.

In April 2009, the company was awarded the Queen's Award for Enterprise recognising the company's substantial growth in earnings over the past three years.

BBC Worldwide operates under the BBC Charter and Agreement, which sets out the following four commercial criteria with which our activities must comply. BBC Worldwide must:

  • Fit with the BBC's Public Purposes as set out in the Charter;
  • Be commercially efficient;
  • Not jeopardise the good reputation of the BBC or the value of the BBC brand;
  • Comply with the BBC's Fair Trading Guidelines and avoid distorting the market

The BBC is making money off the whole thing, so don't think they just sold a name and left it at that. The BBC is still very much in control and they are getting a pretty penny from the History Channel so that they can have the broadcast rights.

Like it or not, your TV license fees support the company that sells TV worldwide. But in turn they reinvest it in programming for Brits. It's still a company, they still want to make money.
 
Now that there's multicultural stigs, can we now use stig as an adjective?
 
Now that there's multicultural stigs, can we now use stig as an adjective?

How could you use it as an adjective? Stig is a proper noun if you really want to know what part of English it is.
 
Like it or not, your TV license fees support the company that sells TV worldwide. But in turn they reinvest it in programming for Brits. It's still a company, they still want to make money.

Thanks Joey. I always thought BBC Worldwide was a part of the BBC that my money goes to.

I got to the word "subsidiary" and thats all i needed to know. BBC Worldwide is a "wholly-owned". "commercial arm" of the BBC - which essentially means they cannot collect fees from licence payers and legally funnel it to BBC Worldwide.

BBC Worldwide therefore must acquire its revenue from elsewhere - such as the international licensing of BBC shows.

At first glance thats fine by me (being said license payer). However, the fact that in order for this arrangement to be beneficial to the BBC they must take a cut of BBC Worldwide's revenue, means that the BBC is actually making outside profits.

In the UK TV Licensing fees have always been the subject of much debate (there are no such fees to pay in the US am I right?), mostly because the entire sum goes to only one of our many networks - so if you were to choose to never watch BBC, for whatever reason, you would still have to fund them if you wanted to legally watch any television channel at all.

Plus, blind people receive a discount of (if i remember rightly) about £8 off a fee of approx £120!! Shocking I know.

So if the BBC is indeed taking in outside profits from its subsidiary (and i see no other way) then why on Earth am I paying? Tbh im quite upset to learn this Joey mate, but am glad to know about it because Ive always been against TV Licensing and this quite frankly sickens me that this is going on.

They actually claimed in your quote they reinvest some money into the UK "creative sector". This could of course mean schools and colleges but I know better and big business doesn't work like that, so I can only think one thing Joey - that the money is being poured back into the BBC.

So when you say that its going into more programming for us Brits, consider that its actually a bad thing for us not a good one.

Think of it like this:

- we pay the fees which fund programmes some of us may watch (whether or not we like it)
- The BBC cannot generate ANY revenue from outside advertising so it creates a "commercial arm"
- The "commercial arm" sells the rights around the world and funnels the money back to the BBC

So if the BBC has a way to legally generate outside revenue, then we should not be paying fees.

And, just to make this part clear also, according to the quote in your post I was correct when I had stated that the BBC does not fund overseas programming - according to that quote it is actually the opposite as they are profiting from these shows not funding them.

Sometimes laws are created to evade certain ethical responsibilities. Thanks Joey I'll have to look into this now and try to ascertain how many Brits are even aware of this arrangement.

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PS. Sorry to OP for going offtopic with this one. Barring any potential response from FoolKiller, the threads all yours again mate. :)
 
I missed Sunday's episode and I need to find some time to watch it.

Justin
Anyways, I wish History would re-air this weeks episode more, seems like whenever it's listed it's from previous weeks.
Usually the episodes are available online. However, it looks like the only episode they have online right now is the Fast in Florida episode from two weeks ago. Odd.

They often air the previous week's episode on the same day as a new episode, so hopefully we can catch it then. TV Guide.com says 7:00PM ET this Sunday.


PS. Sorry to OP for going offtopic with this one. Barring any potential response from FoolKiller, the threads all yours again mate. :)
No response. I realize when my tone was misunderstood (yay Internet) and it is best to walk away to avoid any further personal insults.

I would like to address one thing:

So please before you begin your next racist rant
I made no original racist rant.

if I wasnt housebound with an auto-immune disorder
I am sorry to hear about this, and truly saddened that we got off on the wrong foot. As you probably know, based on your comments, in the relatively near future (hopefully) I will be on medicines that will compromise my immune system and I would have enjoyed being able to talk with someone that has experience living life under those conditions.
 
Just so all the American's here know, Top Gear USA will return Sunday July 24th!
 
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