Will GT5 Teach Me Anything?

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Hi, I'm 15 years old and next year I will be able to go for my learners. I was wondering if any of the skills that I have learnt in Gran Turismo effect the way that I drive? As in braking, the turns of the track, And all the other skills you learn from the license tests. Again, Besides from going fast will GT5 teach me anything?

By the way is braking and accelerating with only one foot the way you are supposed to drive? Because on the slower cars I have no problem but fast cars I find it difficult.
 
I doubt GT5 will help very much, as I imagine it is very different to driving in real life. And yes, if you left foot brake in your driving test you will fail.
 
yeah it will help.

GT5 will help teach you the basics functions of driving a car, thats all.

RL environment is very different. Cannot be compared. Its like playing Call of duty. It wont transform you into a soldier, but it will teach you how to take aim
 
mattythedog
I doubt GT5 will help very much, as I imagine it is very different to driving in real life. And yes, if you left foot brake in your driving test you will fail.
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Why is it that you can't use your left foot? Wouldn't be safer and easier?
 
because you use your left foot for clucth, right for braking + it's weird feeling braking with your left foot (unless it's an automatic/tipronic/..., but people still use their right foot for braking)

KiroKai
I suppose for you right foot wouldn't be allowed. In London/UK everything is mirrored. :p
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not the pedals
 
Speaking as an ex rally driver, I found the lessons I learnt racing was kind of helpful, especially on the incredibly common dirt/gravel roads in New Zealand.
But it simply doesn't prepare you for dealing with emergency situations caused by other motorists.

The things that GT5 will help you with -

How to handle the car if you happen to lose control for whatever reason, be it poor road conditions or having to swerve to avoid an accident.

How to apply the breaks and accelerator smoothly and how to corner smoothly

How and when to change gear, though it won't teach you how to get a car going without stalling (I could explain it to you but I don't even know if you would be driving a manual and if you are I would expect your parents or a friend could teach you how to start a manual without stalling)

How to keep the wheel and accelerator pedal steady at 100 KP/H - 60MP/h (Otherwise known as motorway speeds)

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I would heartily recommend driving on the nurburgring at road speeds, try and keep perfectly to the left (Or right depending on your countries road rules) and most importantly practice not making sudden movements, other motorists appreciate predictable driving.

For driving on the motorway/dual carriage way/Highway the Special Stages can be quite helpful too.



But after all is said and done, nothing compares to real experience.
GT5 will help in ways and it's certainly a better primer for driving for the first time than just getting in and going for it, but there are lots of better games that are designed for teaching people how to drive on the road, some with great physics too.

GT5 doesn't simulate road speeds quite as well as it does racing speeds.

Keep in mind, all of this has been working on the assumption that you have a wheel, if you don't.. well, it's not really a fabulous primer, really the only thing you can practice is smooth predictable breaking by using the R3 stick.


Anyway, I wish you the best of luck for your driving test and I hope you enjoy many years of safe, enjoyable driving!
 
J0SH1
Hi, I'm 15 years old and next year I will be able to go for my learners. I was wondering if any of the skills that I have learnt in Gran Turismo effect the way that I drive? As in braking, the turns of the track, And all the other skills you learn from the license tests. Again, Besides from going fast will GT5 teach me anything?

By the way is braking and accelerating with only one foot the way you are supposed to drive? Because on the slower cars I have no problem but fast cars I find it difficult.
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It could help you on the track but not on the road. It's very different.

The only thing I could see helping someone on the road is wheel work. Even then its not 100%
 
No, Gran Turismo is a racing game, not a commuter simulator. You don't need to know anything to get a license these days. I will tell you everything you need to know right now.

Right pedal = Gas
Left pedal = Brake
That big wheel = Steering wheel
Stop at stop signs.
Green means go, yellow means stop if you can, red means stop.
Follow the speed limit.
Stay in your lane.
Use your turn signals.
Don't be an asshole. (Well that's just my rule for everyone else)
You have now officially graduated from Schwartz's Driving School.
 
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Schwartz
No, Gran Turismo is a racing game, not a commuter simulator. You don't need to know anything to get a license these days. I will tell you everything you need to know right now.

Right = Gas
Left = Brake
that big wheel = Steering wheel
Stop at stop signs.
Green means go, yellow means stop if you can, red means stop.
Follow the speed limit.
Stay in your lane.
Use your turn signals.
Don't be an asshole. (Well that's just my rule for everyone else)
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This sums it up, except one..

You forgot check your mirrors!
 
Schwartz
Left = Brake
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Incorrect. If you brake with your left foot in your driving test you will fail. Left foot is for the clutch only, or in an auto, doing nothing.
 
mattythedog
Incorrect. If you brake with your left foot in your driving test you will fail. Left foot is for the clutch only, or in an auto, doing nothing.
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It's the left pedal, not foot.
Although I'm suddenly really pissed off and I don't know why.

Bluntified
This sums it up, except one..

You forgot check your mirrors!
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Schwartz
It's the left pedal, not foot.
Although I'm suddenly really pissed off and I don't know why.
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Oh, sorry. Although you didn't make that very clear...
 
Schwartz
It's the left pedal, not foot.
Although I'm suddenly really pissed off and I don't know why.



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Ina a manual car it's the middle pedal.
Then the clutch is on the left ;)

Don't be pissed off, it's a waist of energy.
 
mattythedog
Oh, sorry. Although you didn't make that very clear...
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No, it was always there. Maybe the elf who is working the quote function made a mistake or something. :nervous:

Gejabo
Don't be pissed off, it's a waist of energy.
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That may be, but it's much better to be pissed off than pissed on.
 
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Oh you did not just play the AUP card. You are in direct violation of the Schwartz's Banter Policy, but I'll let you off with just a warning this time.
 
From my personal point of view: Nothing much.

Driving in the streets is completely different. You shouldn't be driving with speed in mind, but with safety in mind. Driving is like a language, first you learn the words (i.e how to operate the car's controls) and then you learn the proper ettiquete on using them (i.e how you should bevahe on the road),. My main advice would be to stay sharp and take every factor in account. Don't take it lightly and don't get too creative: there's no restart button in real cars.

If we're talking about real-life racing, I'd say GT5, and other simulators as well, are definitevely helpful but in no way a guarantee of success. You might know what a late apex is while sitting in your comfy chair with you plastic Logitech wheel in your hands, but remembering what a late apex is while your ears are full of Vroom and your entire body is being hammered by gravity is an entirely different story. My suggestion is to move from GT5 to harsher simulators and then to a racing academy. If an instructor in an academy tells you that what you did in the game is wrong, then take his word for truth.

All in all, leave the GT5 mindset when you seat behind the wheel in a reall car. I'm also a learning driver and I know how hard it is to be a speedfreak confined to streets full of slowpokes and scum taxi drivers, but if there's something I learnt is what the Legendary Fangio used to say: A crazy man finishes in the cemetery. Seriously, drive like your life was at stake because it actually is, unlike in GT5 or even iRacing ;)
 
CarBastard
From my personal point of view: Nothing much.

Driving in the streets is completely different. You shouldn't be driving with speed in mind, but with safety in mind. Driving is like a language, first you learn the words (i.e how to operate the car's controls) and then you learn the proper ettiquete on using them (i.e how you should bevahe on the road),. My main advice would be to stay sharp and take every factor in account. Don't take it lightly and don't get too creative: there's no restart button in real cars.

If we're talking about real-life racing, I'd say GT5, and other simulators as well, are definitevely helpful but in no way a guarantee of success. You might know what a late apex is while sitting in your comfy chair with you plastic Logitech wheel in your hands, but remembering what a late apex is while your ears are full of Vroom and your entire body is being hammered by gravity is an entirely different story. My suggestion is to move from GT5 to harsher simulators and then to a racing academy. If an instructor in an academy tells you that what you did in the game is wrong, then take his word for truth.

All in all, leave the GT5 mindset when you seat behind the wheel in a reall car. I'm also a learning driver and I know how hard it is to be a speedfreak confined to streets full of slowpokes and scum taxi drivers, but if there's something I learnt is what the Legendary Fangio used to say: A crazy man finishes in the cemetery. Seriously, drive like your life was at stake because it actually is, unlike in GT5 or even iRacing ;)
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Ha! Thanks for the advice. What do you mean by harsher simulators?
 
J0SH1
Ha! Thanks for the advice. What do you mean by harsher simulators?
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Well, sims that are more hardcore than GT5. I find that GT5 is too forgiving in certain aspects, like the inmense grip of racing tyres and in braking. I personally reccomend SimBin's Race 07 series for the PC, it's challenging and requires concentration and skill, but it's a very rewarding and immersive experience. Still, nothing gets close to driving in real life. Specially in the joy department! :sly:
 
serious:
> concentration
> timing
> sleight of hand

funny:
> you can improve your car's power by let's say 5-10% only by doing oil change
> wet tracks are worse than dry
> Nordschleife ist great!
> There are more variations of Nissan Skylines in GT5 than crater on the moon
 
CarBastard
Well, sims that are more hardcore than GT5. I find that GT5 is too forgiving in certain aspects, like the inmense grip of racing tyres and in braking. I personally reccomend SimBin's Race 07 series for the PC, it's challenging and requires concentration and skill, but it's a very rewarding and immersive experience. Still, nothing gets close to driving in real life. Specially in the joy department! :sly:
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Thanks! Is SimBin a online racing game like iRacing, or is it a game like Gran Turismo?
 
J0SH1
Besides from going fast will GT5 teach me anything?
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GT5 is not a good teacher, it is a place that you can work on some techniques. Most of the pointers in the text of the license tests are quite good, but it is still up to you to teach yourself how to drive. This of course is not the best way to learn :)

I use GT5 to teach race car drivers some better techniques, by letting them drive my rig and then pointing out areas to improve. I use a Miata on Autumn Ring Mini as a main tool. The car has been tuned a specific way so that it is not easy to drive. But when you use the throttle and wheel in unison and smoothly, you can produce incredible lap times compared to being rough and abrupt. This is the driving technique that will get the most out of a Formula Ford that we will be driving in the real world, and it works really well as a learning tool.

So it is good instruction that is the key to real world driving. You CAN learn a lot on your own, by reading books and trying different things, but ultimately you can never beat expert instruction ;)
 
mattythedog
Incorrect. If you brake with your left foot in your driving test you will fail. Left foot is for the clutch only, or in an auto, doing nothing.
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This. The learners test here requires no driving whatsoever, as long as you know the rules of the road, it'll be a breeze. Not sure how it is where you live. Once you have your license have your parents or whoever take you out for a bit and just let you drive, teach you the proper techniques, etc. Once you're ready take drivers ed, then go for your full license, just remember one mistake and they'll fail you. Don't focus on a video game to help you drive on the streets, for one it might inspire you to become a bit over confident, and there isn't any need to drive on the streets like you would on any racing game or sim. Good luck.
 
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J0SH1
Thanks! Is SimBin a online racing game like iRacing, or is it a game like Gran Turismo?
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SimBin is a game developer. The game is called Race07, and being a bit old goes for around 3 to 5 dollars nowadays. It has AI so you can play it like Gran Turismo but also has online gameplay.

By the way, this thread is full of great advice!
 
im going to learn to quote people but CarBastard that was excellent advice and well said!

shoulder checks are the most important for my final test, something that gt5 cant really simulate!
 
I thought GT5 would help me with learning to drive, but it didn't. My dad wants me to learn to drive stick but it's SO hard. I always pop the clutch or just outright stall the car. If I had a wheel with pedals, it might have taught me something. But with no proper clutch simulation, it hasn't. :(
 
PureHeavyMetal
I thought GT5 would help me with learning to drive, but it didn't. My dad wants me to learn to drive stick but it's SO hard. I always pop the clutch or just outright stall the car. If I had a wheel with pedals, it might have taught me something. But with no proper clutch simulation, it hasn't. :(
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You thought driving with a pad would help you?
 
GT5 can definitely teach a lot about driving, especially in racing. You can quite get some good advice and tips from it that will help when driving in real life.
 

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