Will PD ever fix Dream Car Championship?

[MoLiEG]

Ok, now I can see the pics.

Wow... interesting ... the tire wear bug never happened to me... but the climate one... Yes 💡 I think it happened both on the DCC and the Formula GT one... Good thing about it is that I don't bother with B-Spec anymore...

 

[Skuh]

I thought of that too Skuh but when you see the lap times for the grooved sports tires vs RH you will laugh. One would expect the groved sports tires to work better in the wet than the full slick racing tire. But the cars on the RH in the wet are way faster than when they have sports tires on in the wet. This is why I consider it a glitch. The X1 on those sports tires in the wet took almost 13 minutes to navigate the Ring. It was almost overtaken by the AI cars that were on RH's. If it was for the ridiculous performance of the X1 in the back straight Bob would have lost this race.

Thats the X1 though. That thing isn't really meant to run on sports tyres. It may be a bug, but I think the pitlane light is correct. Sports tyres have a tread so it makes sense that the game thinks it's an ok for tyre for the rain.
Not that this is a big deal anyway. The light coming on is pretty irrelevant so not trying to be picky, just wondering if it is a bug or not.

 

[HDT Commodore]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but when i got to i think grand valley, after about 3sec of loading all of a sudden the game quitted itself and i was in the ps menu.

 

[Snakebitten]

HDT Comodore I've never got that one but I do get most of my long load times with grand valley. Sometimes I have to reset because of it.

I took a video of the screen juddering. I'll try to figure out how to post it when I get back on my desktop

 

[iainoflo85]

This is fairly common with the races that have weather change - the way I get around it is to load the settings screen - where you change your tuning and tyres etc. - don't change your tyres, but open it, close it and wait for the wet% to load, if it says 100% then you know it was going to be wet to start with, so then go back to the settings screen, don't change tyres, go back to the race load screen and I find that it changes to 0% again, and stays dry once you get to the track. I find this works better than complaining and restarting the whole championship because you clicked start race too quickly and forgot it was a weather change track lol (done this a few times) but when I remember to load/unload the settings screen until its definitely dry, then I don't have any problems. I used to have the hanging screen at Grand Valley, not lately though and as for the juddering, it's not only DCC - it has happened on B-Spec remote races as well and it never loads at all, the lineup keeps going round juddering the whole time and yet when the bar gets to full it doesn't start the race.

These and other bugs are pretty common, and some are more annoying than others. For example (don't know if this is a bug, but it's rather annoying anyway when it happens all the effing time) in Cote d'Azure the AI have a tendency to hit walls and block the way if I'm in A-Spec, or my Bob does it a lot in B-Spec and the other cars still do it as well - I know the reason for it, but there's still nothing I can do to stop him and in A-Spec the only thing I can do is look out for it and try and avoid it or capitalise on it to gain some positions. Like I said I don't know if this is a bug, but it's incredibly annoying and ruins the game for me sometimes.

Oh as for the tire wear bug, never noticed that before - or maybe I did, but wasn't paying attention - I think something like it happened on Monza, I suddenly had a massive lead after the first lap, this was probably cuz they pitted to change tyres because I had gotten round the weather bug and they probably started with wet tyres, dunno.

But agreed these happen for me as well.

 

[phil_75]

I don't play online at all... hate the completely different physics and how almost nobody likes to use normal cars with race tires (I place race tires on all my cars)

You are joking right?

Thats ALL you see! Road cars on RS tyres! (which if you didn't already know is very unrealistic)

(Btw: Not bitching, each to their own, but try the tyres the car came with)

On topic, glad i did this race back in November 2010 before the weather and loading bugs then!
Well...i expected it to load ok then seeing as you could nip out and do some shopping, come back, make a cuppa tea and drink it before the Nurburgring loaded back then!

 

[phil_75]

These and other bugs are pretty common, and some are more annoying than others. For example (don't know if this is a bug, but it's rather annoying anyway when it happens all the effing time) in Cote d'Azure the AI have a tendency to hit walls and block the way if I'm in A-Spec, or my Bob does it a lot in B-Spec and the other cars still do it as well - I know the reason for it, but there's still nothing I can do to stop him and in A-Spec the only thing I can do is look out for it and try and avoid it or capitalise on it to gain some positions. Like I said I don't know if this is a bug, but it's incredibly annoying and ruins the game for me sometimes.

Thats the Historic Race in B spec, always hit the barrier at the chicane after the tunnel at cote d zur.

I think the way around it is to slow him down as much as you can before you get to it!

 

[Samus]

I don't know what to say other than enjoy what it is, or move on.

I absolutely love the apologists answers to problems and flaws in the game. Either enjoy the flaw (How do you do that exactly?) or sweep it under the carpet and forget about it. Brilliant.

 

[maxpontiac]

I absolutely love the apologists answers to problems and flaws in the game. Either enjoy the flaw (How do you do that exactly?) or sweep it under the carpet and forget about it. Brilliant.

I completed that Series a long, long, time ago.

I enjoyed the race, won the credits, and moved on.

It's not that hard to understand, well, it should'nt be.

💡

 

[Samus]

That's you, the OP clearly still likes to race this series. You telling him to just deal with the fact it's broken or do something else is a terrible response.

 

[Snakebitten]

I ignore people like mr. pontiac. BTW I don't play GT5 anymore I just keep up to date whenever an update is available. But I always check after its updated to see if they fixed DCC and any of the other glaring problems before I put it back up...Just too many things wrong for me to enjoy the game anymore...Its run its course for me. If others still like it that's fine with me.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

The real question is: Will PD ever fix A-spec? What a mess!

1. It's a shame when you see day/night transitions abandoned in A-spec.

2. It's a shame when there are no rally races in A-spec.

3. It's a shame when there is only one 3 lap race for classic muscle cars. Really?

4. It's a shame when you don't see rival races. Camaro VS Mustang. Lambo VS Ferrari (don't keep them separate!). Vette VS Viper. To name a few....

5. It's a shame when weather is hardly used in A-spec.

6. It's a shame when acquired licenses have NOTHING to do with the progression of A-spec. Make some restrictions again!

7. It's a shame when the same, recycled events are used in GT5 (not that classic events should be removed). Nonetheless, think of some new ideas!

 

[maxpontiac]

That's you, the OP clearly still likes to race this series. You telling him to just deal with the fact it's broken or do something else is a terrible response.

Agreed. It is me, and obviously judging by the 1.7 million or so sales of GT5 in 2012, it is many others as well. In fact, this is the first time I have ever heard about this issue, which in all reality is quite the shocker since GTPlanet's resident private eyes find things all the time.

Terrible to you. Terrible to perhaps the small number of people who find faults in GT5.

I ignore people like mr. pontiac. BTW I don't play GT5 anymore I just keep up to date whenever an update is available. But I always check after its updated to see if they fixed DCC and any of the other glaring problems before I put it back up...Just too many things wrong for me to enjoy the game anymore...Its run its course for me. If others still like it that's fine with me.

Of course you do. This thread is here so you can find like minded individuals to talk with.

Misery loves company afterall.

When someone like me who comes into a thread and either defends GT5 or as in my case, doesn't care, that is usually the reaction.

 

[Tornado]

Blah blah sales numbers prove faults don't exist blah blah quality by popular vote blah blah.

When someone like me who comes into a thread and either defends GT5 or as in my case, doesn't care, that is usually the reaction.

Oh please. You're not fooling anyone with your reasoning for posting in this thread anymore than the handful of other threads you still come on GTP to post in when something rustles your jimmies, so don't bother with acting as if your reasoning to tell people who are bothered by a problem with the game to deal with it is because you "don't care."

 

[maxpontiac]

Blah blah sales numbers prove faults don't exist blah blah quality by popular vote blah blah.



Oh please. You're not fooling anyone with your reasoning for posting in this thread anymore than the handful of other threads you still come on GTP to post in when something rustles your jimmies, so don't bother with acting as if your reasoning to tell people who are bothered by a problem with the game to deal with it is because you "don't care."

No where did I state that sales numbers prove faults don't exist. That is an assumption on your part. Sales numbers do prove something though.

That small things such as this doesn't really matter much in the big picture.

I am not trying to fool anyone. Where I stand on issues with GT5 should be known by someone like you who constantly takes the time to reply to me. In fact, we have had a few small discussions like this that go nowhere.

My initial post in this thread asked the question on what is wrong with the DCC? Probably didn't catch that, did you?

 

[Tornado]

No where did I state that sales numbers prove faults don't exist. That is an assumption on your part.

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it was a silly of me to assume that you saying 1.7 million people agree with you on this meant that you were saying that sales numbers prove that you're right about how little it should matter to the OP. Even though you've done that several times in the past, I suppose this was the one time that wasn't why you did it.

Similarly, the quality by popular vote assertion was a terrible assumption to make. You obviously meant something else when you said "the small number of people who find faults in GT5."

Where I stand on issues with GT5 should be known by someone like you who constantly takes the time to reply to me. In fact, we have had a few small discussions like this that go nowhere.

Yeah, I'm pretty curious about that actually. I never did get an answer last time you started these assertions about how much sales mean and I held your feet to the fire over it. Or the time before that, when Scaff did the same thing in that thread you made just to show how dedicated you were to fighting the good fight while simultaneously admonishing those who kept posting the opposing viewpoint.


In fact, I would go so far as to say that there is a pattern in how your responses in these discussions play out more than anything else.

My initial post in this thread asked the question on what is wrong with the DCC? Probably didn't catch that, did you?

Your initial post in this thread was asking what the problem was. You were told the problem. Then your response was basically "I guess you'll either have to deal with it or ignore it." And when you were questioned about that, you did your non sequitor about sales again.


Someone who "doesn't care" wouldn't have even given that first response, let alone gone through multiple posts defending the second post before ultimately referring back to the sales nonsense.

 

[maxpontiac]

Toronado -

I have never used numbers as an excuse for faults. In fact, I use them to prove my point which has always been that what the few members here on this site feel, it does not impact how well GT5 sells.

Brother, there comes a point in which continued discussions require too much energy, and that is something I do not want to do. So yes, I could have responded to you and Scaff, only to see you do the same. Where does it end? Till one of us is right here on the internet?

I come to this website to find interesting discoveries like the one made with the C7. It's why 90% of my posts are only in threads such as those. It's also why observant posters such as yourself see a pattern in my posts. You on the other hand spend a ton of time here, and that's great.

Perhaps stating that I don't care was a mistake on my part, but the truth remains that all the things found wrong with GT5 don't stop me from playing and enjoying this game.

Oh look what you made me do!

 

[Samus]

Toronado -

I have never used numbers as an excuse for faults. In fact, I use them to prove my point which has always been that what the few members here on this site feel, it does not impact how well GT5 sells.

So? Whoever said that it does? How is that point in any way relevant? Are you seriously suggesting that there is no point discussing faults in the game just because it will not stop people buying the game?

Perhaps stating that I don't care was a mistake on my part, but the truth remains that all the things found wrong with GT5 don't stop me from playing and enjoying this game.

Oh look what you made me do!

Thats great, good for you. It doesn't mean you need to stop telling people to discuss the fauts though, just ignore them if they don't bother you. Don't tell people to basically put up or shut up because you don't care and it doesn't affect sales. That isn't a legitimate reason not to talk about issues.