So, at what point did GT7 become disengaging to you? Approximately how much time of enjoyment did you get out of the game before you felt the fun is gone? I ask this because I've been playing the game for 2-3 months and have 212 hours of play time logged in, 93 of which are driving time. I haven't completed every race, I haven't completed all the missions yet, I still need to get the gold medal on S-10 to get all golds on my licenses, I only own 141 cars, I still have a lot of circuit experiences to complete and I've only began to dabble in the Sport mode/Online racing.
I assume this is in response to my comments, and I'm not quite sure what any answer will prove or disprove. I would say iit started to lose it's hook about 60% of the way through the menu books (as at launch) so we're talking approximately 4-5hrs in perhaps (maybe a little more with the missions). And then when I hit the end of the menu books I said to myself "is that it" and I've had far less engagement with the game since.
If all I want to do is pick a car and race there are far better games for that, if all I want to do is hotlap, those same games are better for that. If I want to buy, tune, customise, race, sell, repeat, Gran Turismo 7 was my expected fix, but it just hasn't hooked me.
I can think of a lot of things I've spent money on that cost me well above $60 that I didn't get more than a few hours of enjoyment out of. Part of me thinks you are asking far too much out of a video game. When you think about it, GT7 has likely provided you an entertainment value of less than $1/hour, but it can only go so far. Something tells me that if they added a richer career mode it would really only add about 8-10 hours of "new" content to the game. But after those hours are over you would be back here saying the game isnt rich enough. that you want more. Thats just human nature. Just like anything in life, you will eventually get bored with it. Be it a job, a car, a house, a boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse, friends, a video game, etc. You will eventually tire of it and want something "new" or "better". GT7 can't be everything to everyone and that's okay. That's why there are so many games out there to play. It's why there has been 8 (counting GT Sport) iterations of Gran Tourismo and will likely be many more to come.
So can I, but part of me thinks you're deliberately missing the point now just for the sake of argument. You can try to quantify how much something cost against how much time you spent with it as a barometer of how good something is, but that's very flawed logic because a cost/time evaluation does not = fun.
If that were the case the minute you play a free to play game and enjoy it, then that instant it becomes a better product than GT7. Because any time spent enjoying something that cost no money is better than any other amount of time spent enjoying something that cost money using that logic. Time spent does not = better, in fact it can = worse because a person may feel obliged to hit a certain milestone in a game but not enjoy the grind to get there.
In just the same way, spending £10 to watch a 3hr film is not automatically a better use of your time and money than spending £10 to watch a 2hr film. Even if you enjoyed both, that is not automatically the case, because you may have enjoyed the 2hr film more. So please stop with the nonsense about time spent = great purchase. Combined with other factors it certainly can mean that, but it most certain does not = that by itself.
And of course peope tire of most games eventually, but I still play GT2, GT3 and GT4 from time to time. I also play GT5 and GT6 from time to time too, but I mod those games so the experience isn't as the game was fully intended therefore not a fair mention in this context. But in both of those I've added loads of events, custom prize cars and missions (in GT6) and balanced the games economies better so cars don't go all the way up to 20m Cr. It's much for fun, for me.
I think we will all eventually get the place you are at and think GT7 is not as fun as it once was. At that point you just have to realize it provided you with entertainment for a part of your life and you have moved on from there. You have "completed" the game so-to-speak. So no real need to complain about GT7. Instead it may be better to start a thread about what you would want to see in a GT8 version of the game. Maybe GT8 could have a richer career mode. Maybe it would have you start off racing in carts and you slowly graduate to driving beater cars at real tracks, then on to group 4/3/2/1 cars. Maybe it could get in to Formula 1 cars (of course this expands the game to be even larger than it already is, but it sounds like thus is what you want).
No not reallly, that's like saying this person thinks that film is crap, we'll all get there eventually once we've watched it enough times. That's not the way opinions work at all, not at all. You can tire of a film you liek and have seen several times, to the point you don't want to watch it again for a while yet still hold it in high regard, or you can watch a film once and think "well, that was a waste of my life".
Now, I don't think that badly of GT7, I think it has the most potential of any GT game to date, but it doesn't fulfil that potential for me, not close. I describe it having the most potential but the most dissapointing at the same time. But your logic in this discussion is highly flawed and ignorant of almost everything I have said either through ignorance or wilfulness . Either way it's not appreciated.
Of course this career mode alienates all the people who just want to buy Bugattis and drive 250 mph on the oval on day 1. so it's a fine line PD has to ride in order to meet the desires of the average player.
A very specific and obvious statement which has nothing to do with anything I've said, but ok.
But in any case, it sounds like you have achieved all you can within GT7 and its now a grind. Sounds like you are ready to move on to another title. maybe ACC has a better career mode and could provide you the level of engagement you are looking for. I've never played it, but I hear a lot of positive things about it.
No, you are completely ignoring and missing the point to everything I've said. You are not educating me on other games either. I am not here discussing GT7 becuase I don't know about other games, I'm in here because I'm interested in this discussion and I am still very much interested in Gran Turismo in general.
Allow me to remind you, you asked:
What exactly are you looking for out of the game?
I have answered this in great detail even if you are failing to grasp the points I've raised.
