Windows XP SP3 Released

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For those of you still running XP, here's the latest service pack. It'll get you updated with all of the security patches and what's not since SP2. It says it's a final (I got it from MajorGeeks) but people are saying it isn't going to be released until next week or something. People that have downloaded it say it works.. You decide.

Windows XP SP3 Final
 
Thanks for the update, Burnout. I'm loaning my PC to my roommate but when I get it back, it's probably not worth it to update? Or will it nag me to death insisting I download it?
 
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This at the very least shows a huge majority of people who have shied away from Vista due to it being Vista that Microsoft is at least willing to compromise. While they won't give you the super, system crippling features Vista has, they also won't dump support for the XP any time soon.
 
It's kinda nice to know that one is up to date with security. I'm downloading it as I type.

I'm not too worried about security. Once my roommate returns it, my aging PC will be relegated to media purposes (i.e. connect to the TV) and I probably won't go online much aside from hulu and other TV shows or racing events streamed online.
 
Its good to see they are still supporting xp (well because they know people dont want to move to vista) but I would have liked additional functionality in this update...

Robin
 
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There are no performance increases or anything, just security related stuff.
Some people said there is a slight performance increase, of about 13%.

I'll get it via Windows updates next month.
 
pardon? they bothered updating XP? they said as of August last year that all XP support would be dropped.

even Apple made fun of vista's insta-crash problem in their commercials (the mac and PC commercials, politics parody version).

one of my ex's is Microsoft Certified and told me that Vista needs a comp specifically built to handle all the functions. an ideal version was said to run into 100g's! and that was a couple YEARS ago!

Tornado's right. attention bill gates, Vista is too powerfull for an undedicated comp!

Addendum: holy space hog, Batman!
400 meg??!
who's the moron at micro$oft that thinks veryone's got high speed?!
 
SP3 appeared in Windows Update for me last night but I had to turn the computer off so I didn't install it yet.
 
Im going to wait till ive finished uni then clean install everything again and put in SP3.
 
pardon? they bothered updating XP? they said as of August last year that all XP support would be dropped.

even Apple made fun of vista's insta-crash problem in their commercials (the mac and PC commercials, politics parody version).

one of my ex's is Microsoft Certified and told me that Vista needs a comp specifically built to handle all the functions. an ideal version was said to run into 100g's! and that was a couple YEARS ago!

Tornado's right. attention bill gates, Vista is too powerfull for an undedicated comp!

Addendum: holy space hog, Batman!
400 meg??!
who's the moron at micro$oft that thinks veryone's got high speed?!

Believe everything you hear then. I run Vista x64 , which should mean that I experience crashes every five minutes and all my programs shouldn't work, but hey, Vista hasn't crashed even once on me.

400mb is nothing btw. ;)
 
I run Vista x64 , which should mean that I experience crashes every five minutes and all my programs shouldn't work, but hey, Vista hasn't crashed even once on me.
Some people don't experience the RRoD either. And crashes are by far the least relevant reason as to why Vista is crappy.
 
400mb is nothing btw. ;)
Considering Windows 95 was about 120MB when fully installed, a 400MB patch seems a bit unwieldy, even at DSL speeds.

Microsoft typically gives 8-10 years of "support" to its products.
 
Some people don't experience the RRoD either. And crashes are by far the least relevant reason as to why Vista is crappy.

Vista is better than XP in most departments aside from gaming. It's got a better UI, a very useful quicksearch function and its RAM allocation is very clever. 99% of all Vista bashers probably haven't even used it for more than a week, and many users have had the same experience as I have with Vista.

Pupik: People download 1gig demos over their PS3s/360s without batting an eyelid and broadband speeds these days mean that a 400mb download isn't going to take a whole day to finish.
 
Yeah, but 400MB patch expands into 1GB more crap from MS.
 
Then simply delete the installation files after Windows has updated. Memory is cheap these days anyway.
 
this is an older comp. I've allready dumped a new DVD-ROM/cd-r unit and another 256 in this thing. every time I update a program, this thing slows down more and more. unfortunately the 256 and the drive nailed me for a hundred bucks (if I remember right, a 256 was 40 bucks). the drive only lasted a couple months before it siezed (i think this thing needs a couple more fans).
I think I'm not gonna get half decent performance till I stuff this thing with a full gig of mem in it.

I have a DSL max of something near 60, so that would take a couple hours.
we just came off of 7 years of Dialup! the only alternative was to fork out a grand or two for sattelite internet, and pay a hundred bucks a month. we just got DSL service out here.
 
Its "officially" available via WU (5/7/08 5pm PST) and its 'typical' size is 66.9 - 316.4MB :)

Jerome
 
I'm a Microsoft Premier Support Partner. Their published support dates for Windows XP are:

Mainstream Support (feature requests, security updates, non-security hotfixes, complimentary support included with license, paid support): 14 April 2009
Extended Support (security updates, paid support): 8th April 2014

XP SP3 is rather like Service Pack 6a with Windows NT, in that it's a "this is the last time we're going to do this for you" service pack, but you'll still be able to get updates through the normal channels.

I think that Microsoft have understood that the corporates are not moving to Vista because it's too inefficient on the hardware. Yes, a baseline PC can be bought with 2GB ram for around £250 at the minute (in quantity), but organisations that have been organically growing or replacing hardware for the last three years are unwilling to do a complete tech refresh with new kit. My clients simply aren't interested in an OS Upgrade for the sake of an OS Upgrade, especially since it won't translate into increased productivity. I have never seen a convincing Return on Investment plan for Vista. With organisations being increasingly risk-averse, there's little that can be done to convince them that upgrading to Vista is a better option than the "do nothing" plan.

And let's be straight about this: Microsoft is a license seller. Individuals and small business really only represent the icing on the cake for them. When a company like Royal Dutch Shell refreshes its desktop estate, they will buy in one month what a national retail chain can sell in a year, and there's none of that inconvenient box-product to make & shift either. So, Microsoft don't care about you as individuals. They don't really care about Apple either, since Apple really aren't getting into the corporate space.

The only real threat to Microsoft is that corporates are continually worried that they could do better by not giving Microsoft loads of money, instead going the open-source route. As a consultant, I wonder whether Hardy Heron is ready to make the jump. Many consultants like me have Linux implementations at home, and so the consultancy firms are gaining tacit knowledge in this area, effectively free of charge. And there are compelling arguments not to put in Windows Server to do many appliance-type functions (such as file serving). Stick Samba on a blade connected to the SAN, so the wisdom goes, and forget about it. Literally. This coupled with the fact that MySQL can cover off most of the simpler corporate databases has Microsoft worried.

In the face of that, if corporates want a couple more years of support on XP, they'll get it.
 
this is an older comp. I've allready dumped a new DVD-ROM/cd-r unit and another 256 in this thing. every time I update a program, this thing slows down more and more. unfortunately the 256 and the drive nailed me for a hundred bucks (if I remember right, a 256 was 40 bucks). the drive only lasted a couple months before it siezed (i think this thing needs a couple more fans).
I think I'm not gonna get half decent performance till I stuff this thing with a full gig of mem in it.

I have a DSL max of something near 60, so that would take a couple hours.
we just came off of 7 years of Dialup! the only alternative was to fork out a grand or two for sattelite internet, and pay a hundred bucks a month. we just got DSL service out here.
When SP2 came out I ordered it directly on MS website and they send me a CD with it for free. Not sure if this is available for SP3 too but you should check it out.
 
I'm a Microsoft Premier Support Partner. Their published support dates for Windows XP are:

Mainstream Support (feature requests, security updates, non-security hotfixes, complimentary support included with license, paid support): 14 April 2009
Extended Support (security updates, paid support): 8th April 2014

XP SP3 is rather like Service Pack 6a with Windows NT, in that it's a "this is the last time we're going to do this for you" service pack, but you'll still be able to get updates through the normal channels.

I think that Microsoft have understood that the corporates are not moving to Vista because it's too inefficient on the hardware. Yes, a baseline PC can be bought with 2GB ram for around £250 at the minute (in quantity), but organisations that have been organically growing or replacing hardware for the last three years are unwilling to do a complete tech refresh with new kit. My clients simply aren't interested in an OS Upgrade for the sake of an OS Upgrade, especially since it won't translate into increased productivity. I have never seen a convincing Return on Investment plan for Vista. With organisations being increasingly risk-averse, there's little that can be done to convince them that upgrading to Vista is a better option than the "do nothing" plan.

And let's be straight about this: Microsoft is a license seller. Individuals and small business really only represent the icing on the cake for them. When a company like Royal Dutch Shell refreshes its desktop estate, they will buy in one month what a national retail chain can sell in a year, and there's none of that inconvenient box-product to make & shift either. So, Microsoft don't care about you as individuals. They don't really care about Apple either, since Apple really aren't getting into the corporate space.

The only real threat to Microsoft is that corporates are continually worried that they could do better by not giving Microsoft loads of money, instead going the open-source route. As a consultant, I wonder whether Hardy Heron is ready to make the jump. Many consultants like me have Linux implementations at home, and so the consultancy firms are gaining tacit knowledge in this area, effectively free of charge. And there are compelling arguments not to put in Windows Server to do many appliance-type functions (such as file serving). Stick Samba on a blade connected to the SAN, so the wisdom goes, and forget about it. Literally. This coupled with the fact that MySQL can cover off most of the simpler corporate databases has Microsoft worried.

In the face of that, if corporates want a couple more years of support on XP, they'll get it.
An issue Microsoft is going to find, if they're not already aware of it, is that XP is about as advanced of an OS as businesses and corporations are going to need for a long time. When Microsoft first became popular, it was because work was done on computers using programs running locally which required operating systems with certain specifications and abilities, and even today work is carried out in a very similar fashion. However the issue is that the increases in complexity are going to be done on the programs instead of on the operating system itself. Add to that the apparent migration from traditional local computer applications to web based applications and you'll find even less of a need for a fancy operating system (this is one reason I believe Linux is going to become more popular: if a corporation utilizes web-based applications for the majority of their workflow, there is no reason to have Windows base systems when Linux based, or any other platform for that matter, would be able to do exactly the same thing. Factor in the obvious cost benefits and you've got a case). The move to web applications makes more sense now than ever and once instituted the local computer will have to do nothing more than essentially display a webpage. I personally see operating systems in business environments becoming smaller and taking more of an embedded role, such as running the client from within a monitor.

Granted, this is only true for the business side of the spectrum. Home users can still benefit from fancier graphics and cool features. For the corporate though, moving to a web-based configuration is essentially the next evolutionary step in the traditional client-server network.
 
When SP2 came out I ordered it directly on MS website and they send me a CD with it for free. Not sure if this is available for SP3 too but you should check it out.

They do 👍 There is a link on the WU page.

Jerome
 
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