World's fastest BMW.

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That vs this in a drag race. That'd be good. He'd probably beat the F1 car too, assuming he responds to the lights in less than half an hour like he does in the second video.

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Roo
He'd probably beat the F1 car too, assuming he responds to the lights in less than half an hour like he does in the second video.
Yeah, that was odd. They were going heads up, too, not brackets. Do European trees drop all at once like that? In the States, the amber lights drop in 0.500-second intervals, not straight down.
 
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Ok, feeling really ignorant here. But why did one run have all kinds of smoke and the second run almost smoke free?
 
Swift
Ok, feeling really ignorant here. But why did one run have all kinds of smoke and the second run almost smoke free?
First one was a burnout to get heat into the tires and make them sticky. Second run was for keeps.
 
Duke
First one was a burnout to get heat into the tires and make them sticky. Second run was for keeps.
I think what Swift meant was one run, the one where it's against another car, there's lots of black smoke coming out of it, where as the run in its own, there isn't any.

Yeah, that BMW was fast. I showed my brother who knows nothing about cars at all and he said he'd be sick. :lol:
 
Actually, I meant exactly what Duke said. So thanks :)

But that is a good question about the black smoke. Hmm....
 
In fact, I'm mistaken. It was taken at a different angle for me not to notice the black smoke on the single-run first time round.
 
If you look downrange on the solo run, there's a lot of black smoke coming out there too. It's running a little rich to make sure it doesn't lean out under full boost, I guess.

[edit] @ danoff: It's a built BMW engine, anyway. I mean, obviously with lots of work, but fundamentally the body and engine are Bavaria's finest.
 
Swift
But that is a good question about the black smoke. Hmm....
It's probably clutch dust. In cars that powerful, the clutch slips and burns the whole way down the track. You can really see this if you watch NHRA dragsters on TV. They put out a steady plume of black dust that's pretty easy to see. It's a tradeoff between destroying the clutch on each run, or sending the rear tires up in smoke.
 
Duke
If you look downrange on the solo run, there's a lot of black smoke coming out there too. It's running a little rich to make sure it doesn't lean out under full boost, I guess.

High boosted Turbocharged/Supercharged engines are usually tuned very rich during high boost and throttle applications to keep combustion temperatures down to reduce the chance of detonation/knocking.

So black exhaust smoke is completely normal.
 
kylehnat
It's probably clutch dust. In cars that powerful, the clutch slips and burns the whole way down the track. You can really see this if you watch NHRA dragsters on TV. They put out a steady plume of black dust that's pretty easy to see. It's a tradeoff between destroying the clutch on each run, or sending the rear tires up in smoke.
Uh, no, sorry. In cars that powerful, they're nearly always running an automatic transmission because the shifts are quicker and they don't have a clutch to melt. Plus for a RWD drag car it's easier to build a durable automatic than it is a durable manual.

Besides, if you slipped the clutch on a car that powerful, it would burn up before the 1/8th mile mark, and you'd coast to the traps.
 
Duke
[edit] @ danoff: It's a built BMW engine, anyway. I mean, obviously with lots of work, but fundamentally the body and engine are Bavaria's finest.
danoff? I'll danoff ye...

:dopey:
 
^^^:lol: I was wondering how long it would take you to notice that! :)
 
Duke
Uh, no, sorry. In cars that powerful, they're nearly always running an automatic transmission because the shifts are quicker and they don't have a clutch to melt. Plus for a RWD drag car it's easier to build a durable automatic than it is a durable manual.

Besides, if you slipped the clutch on a car that powerful, it would burn up before the 1/8th mile mark, and you'd coast to the traps.
Automatic transmissions have clutches. The driver just doesn't get to play with it :)

In NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars, they still use manual transmissions. Not the same as those found in street cars, mind you, but the driver still orchestrates the gear changes via a series of levers. In this case, the clutch DOES slip the entire way down the track, and leaves a black trail of soot behind it (which is not coming from the exhaust). You cannot instantly transmit 7,000 horsepower into the track through the rear wheels, so the clutch slippage is necessary to minimize/eliminate wheelspin. If you watch a run closely, you can see that the tires are always ready to break free, and in fact, it is possible for the wheels to start spinning halfway through the run, usually preceded by tire shake.

After each run, the engine and transmission components have been completely destroyed. Between runs, the pistons, valves, crank, gearbox, and drivetrain (among other things) are replaced. Usually the block can survive a few runs, so it may or may not be replaced as well. These engines are assembled in such a way that the crew (maybe 10 people) can replace everything in under an hour, just in time for the next run. In short, purpose-built drag engines are basically disposable, because they have to be.

Of course, I cannot vouch for the components being run in this BMW, but with 1400 hp, I suspect that he goes through a lot of engine/drivetrain parts during the course of a year, and these parts do not come with 100,000 mile warranties.
 
It even sounds like a CVT tranny. That thing must be shifting disgustingly fast.
 
daan
:lol: No problem, Alex.


daan, you've got to stop man. I'm going to fall out of my chair at work. That won't look good! :lol:
 
kylehnat
In NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars, they still use manual transmissions. Not the same as those found in street cars, mind you, but the driver still orchestrates the gear changes via a series of levers.

Top Fuels and Funny Cars run a direct drive to the rear axle, the engine revs to 9000rpm from the start and the clutch engages as they go down the track, that's why you don't hear gear changes. The tires expand with speed, giving them a changing gear ratio.

The black smoke is more then likely the engine running rich but it could also be clutch smoke as it's running an auto.
 
I'm sorry, but far and away most drag cars are running torque-convertor transmissions, not dry clutches. The fact that the driver is calling the shifts via a rod is irrelevant - the torque convertor means it's still an "automatic" transmission as opposed to a conventional, dry-clutch manual.
 
Meh, it's about a second or two off the time of a Pro Stock, but what can you expect? It's got a smaller engine, and no large corporate sponsorship.
 
Duke
I'm sorry, but far and away most drag cars are running torque-convertor transmissions, not dry clutches. The fact that the driver is calling the shifts via a rod is irrelevant - the torque convertor means it's still an "automatic" transmission as opposed to a conventional, dry-clutch manual.

You'll find that dry clutchs are quite common with higher end auto boxes. I know for a fact that the 6 second doorslammers we have here use triple disc clutches on their 3 speed Lencos but I'm not too sure if a lenco is straight auto or sequential.

It's possible that dry clutches are easier to adjust quickly as opposed to a torque convertor but I prefer having an h pattern so autos aren't my specialty :D

My boss is currently fitting a Liberty 5 speed air shifter box to his '00 Z28 Camaro and is still utilising a torque convertor, the liberty in his skyline runs a slider clutch and I think this is one of the first liberties with a torque convertor, pretty trick stuff.
 

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