would you like if gt5 added a car restriction option?

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personally i would. its hard to find people who enjoy a good race. on top of that a good verity of cars. every street car room i go into. you see nothing but the same over used cars. the nsx type R, evora, R35 v spec, LFA and gt40. i usually try and make my car selection last. so i can pick a car that will put up a good fight. i run production car only rooms. most of the time. the select few that join my room share the same mind set as i do. :irked: than someone just has to join with one of the selected cars above. after his much anticipated victory. he acts like his victory was won by his skill alone, and had nothing to do with his car selection. :sick: . this is another reason why i dont like pp system and prefer weight and hp setup. anyways would you like a car restriction option?
 
yeah i would, i ran a clunkers/lemons room for people who use those horrible cars that most pass by(ie pt cruiser/taurus sho) and one guy snakes in as the race starts with a viper??? then has to boast his greatness for winning.
 
Have you tried Shuffle Racing? Or, the Recommended Car option and only choose equally matched cars?
 
Tuning is so central to this game.

It would be kinda cool if there were seasonal online races. Just something weird, like 'choose from the following 100 cars' and none of them are supercars. So you pick one, enjoy the online races as you tune it, and a few weeks later, a new list comes up.
 
MM1000
Tuning is so central to this game.

It would be kinda cool if there were seasonal online races. Just something weird, like 'choose from the following 100 cars' and none of them are supercars. So you pick one, enjoy the online races as you tune it, and a few weeks later, a new list comes up.
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i herd this idea tossed around in my rooms before. its actually a good idea. they could also put the cars in classes. that would be an easier way of doing things. now that i mentioned it. i remember GT1 having car classes.
 
This is the exact reason I started my 450pp club. I wanted to run different themes to force drivers to pick other cars from their stable. Check my signature for details. We also run mostly sport soft or occasionally comfort soft tires...which helps equalize the field a little better than racing tires.

Anyway, even with tuning, certain cars simply cannot compete with others. the NSX is the prime example that comes up. If you choose it in a 450-500pp room, you will win unless you are a horrible driver or someone else picks it. The car doesn't even need much tuning.

For a while I thought that maybe with tuning I could create a sleeper, but no matter how good you tune a suspension, transmission, and LSD, certain cars simply cannot compete. If you are within 2 car lengths of another driver entering a straight and you cannot draft pass them...your car is too slow. Remove the weight, mix up the parts, add ballast, abuse the power reduction, do what you want...but it won't make the car fast enough.
 
chuyler1
This is the exact reason I started my 450pp club. I wanted to run different themes to force drivers to pick other cars from their stable. Check my signature for details. We also run mostly sport soft or occasionally comfort soft tires...which helps equalize the field a little better than racing tires.

Anyway, even with tuning, certain cars simply cannot compete with others. the NSX is the prime example that comes up. If you choose it in a 450-500pp room, you will win unless you are a horrible driver or someone else picks it. The car doesn't even need much tuning.

For a while I thought that maybe with tuning I could create a sleeper, but no matter how good you tune a suspension, transmission, and LSD, certain cars simply cannot compete. If you are within 2 car lengths of another driver entering a straight and you cannot draft pass them...your car is too slow. Remove the weight, mix up the parts, add ballast, abuse the power reduction, do what you want...but it won't make the car fast enough.
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glad to see people understand what im talking about. the guy from last night was accusing me of making excuses. when i stated " of course you beat me. im using an FC rx7 and your using a nsx". then he followed up with " its not the car. its the driver quote". i was speechless about his lack of knowledge about car advantages.
 
Oddly, I was in the same situation last night. We usually ban the NSX but there were some new guys in the room and it was '90s car night so I let it slide.

I was running the premium '90 RX-7 and he was in a '99 NSX. He was almost 2 seconds faster per lap at GP/F. We started the race and an S2000 was able to keep up with him. I hung in the draft until Dunlop and then lost them before we made it to the start/finish. It's not my driving because I just won a GT500 enduro at the track recently by 60+ seconds.

...but usually when someone gives you that remark about it being the driver not the car, they try to prove it to you by picking another car. Usually an Evora, RX-8, or a handful of other cars that are equally as fast...rather than picking the car you are in and trying to beat your time.
 
Nobu34
prefer weight and hp setup
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Even though it causes the problem you're complaining about, when PP at least tries to fix it?

In any case, yes, this option should be in the game. The limited garage option should not be from the recommended cars list, but from all cars available in the game.

Anyway, even with tuning, certain cars simply cannot compete with others. the NSX is the prime example that comes up. If you choose it in a 450-500pp room, you will win unless you are a horrible driver or someone else picks it. The car doesn't even need much tuning.
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Last time I was in such a room I kept right up with the NSX with my 370 Z (unless the 370 is also one of the broken cars). I've never seen much to convince me that these standout cars are really all that good, but I guess it could just be bad (or good) luck on my part.
 
know exactly what you mean. Online racing above 500pp is just dull. Mind you when ever i start a 400pp/sports tyres room no-one joins.
 
chuyler1
...but usually when someone gives you that remark about it being the driver not the car, they try to prove it to you by picking another car. Usually an Evora, RX-8, or a handful of other cars that are equally as fast...rather than picking the car you are in and trying to beat your time.
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lol exactly. after my remark he chose the R35 vspec.
 
I haven't tuned a 370z yet. I've seen a few quick ones, but none that pulled away like a NSX. The RX-8, Evora, Elise, and a few others can keep up...but we're talking about just a handful of cars. Pick something from the 70's, 80's, or early 90's and you won't have a chance. One could argue that these cars shouldn't keep up...but with racing parts installed they should be equal given the same weight and power ratings.
 
Exorcet
Even though it causes the problem you're complaining about, when PP at least tries to fix it?

In any case, yes, this option should be in the game. The limited garage option should not be from the recommended cars list, but from all cars available in the game.



Last time I was in such a room I kept right up with the NSX with my 370 Z (unless the 370 is also one of the broken cars). I've never seen much to convince me that these standout cars are really all that good, but I guess it could just be bad (or good) luck on my part.
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i beg the differ. i think pp actually raises the problem. the pp system is suppose to try and balance the cars out, but does a bad job at it. for instance. if someone is going to pick an LFA and i chose a mr2. i shouldn't have to lower my hp or add weight to my car. i need that power to weight to compete with that LFA. putting me under the same restriction as the LFA doesn't balance the race out one bit. it actually makes it work against me. the LFA has an incredibly higher RPM range than my mr2. so being of some competition is out of the question. unless im using hp system. than i can make up for my loss of RPM with my power to weight.
 
I use an NSX, but never for 450 pp. I'll use it in 500-550 pp, but it's at which point people will attempt to sneak in a McLaren or something else. In fact I mainly drive racecars in GT5, but drive roadcars when necessary.

If I'm in my Mk IV going against a GTR500, it's clear that they have the edge in corners but I will have the straight-line advantage. They balance out.

If I'm in a RM'ed Lexus IS-F at 650 pp going against a McLaren F1 with 650 pp, I'm going to get murdered cause the McLaren has obviously been fully modified then detuned for regulations. What point is there to attempt to match it.

At 400 pp, racing slow cars, and someone will automatically go for the Clios, SL300s, and even detune a Ferrari just to race.


By sticking to racecars, you avoid this debacle entirely.
 
Nobu34
i beg the differ. i think pp actually raises the problem. the pp system is suppose to try and balance the cars out, but does a bad job at it. for instance. if someone is going to pick an LFA and i chose a mr2. i shouldn't have to lower my hp or add weight to my car. i need that power to weight to compete with that LFA. putting me under the same restriction as the LFA doesn't balance the race out one bit. it actually makes it work against me. the LFA has an incredibly higher RPM range than my mr2. so being of some competition is out of the question. unless im using hp system. than i can make up for my loss of RPM with my power to weight.
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A little hard to read that, but if I understand, you're saying that the PP system forces you to limit your car (the MR2), but not the LFA?

I've not tested this case myself, but the LFA is a far superior car. It's going to be hit harder by PP and probably end up with less power, more weight, or both, compared to the MR2. At low speeds, the LFA chassis might still shine, but at high speeds I'd expect the MR2 to win.

If you went hp/weight, then the LFA has the chance at making the same power (over a wider powerband since it can reach a higher max power and detune) and the same weight, while having a completely better chassis, and it will end up dominating the MR2.
 
Exorcet
A little hard to read that, but if I understand, you're saying that the PP system forces you to limit your car (the MR2), but not the LFA?

I've not tested this case myself, but the LFA is a far superior car. It's going to be hit harder by PP and probably end up with less power, more weight, or both, compared to the MR2. At low speeds, the LFA chassis might still shine, but at high speeds I'd expect the MR2 to win.

If you went hp/weight, then the LFA has the chance at making the same power (over a wider powerband since it can reach a higher max power and detune) and the same weight, while having a completely better chassis, and it will end up dominating the MR2.
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my mr2 cant compete in pp system. pp system just isn't good at balancing to me. anyways it was my fault for not being clear. when i said i run hp and weight. i really ment i just run hp. i leave the weight unrestricted. allowing light weights to give the bigger engine and higher RPM cars a run for their money.
 
Occasionally you do get good battles, like a fast FF against a moderate FR. But the battles are few and far between...and its hard to know whether your driving, tune, or simply your car selection is the problem.

Switching to race cars helps a little, since all engines are generally designed for high rpms...but there is still some differences.

I'm in a GT500 series right now that limits to 600pp. I destroyed the competition at GP/F and Fuji GT in my Arta NSX. No one wanted to run the NSXs at the start of the season because of their handling. I'm new to GT500 so I got stuck with one. I dialed out the oversteer and now its almost too fast, blowing by other drivers on the straights while they struggle to stay in my draft. We are running 1hr enduros but so far the races have been decided in the first few laps.
 
I love these races. Anything up to 550PP is fun; especially on Sports tires.

Chuyler - the 370Z is a good alternative to the NSX, but if both drivers are equal the NSX will probably win. Still...it's not an NSX or CSL

I keep a couple of Evoras, a CSL, and a couple of NSXs tuned at different PP levels just in case someone pulls out one of these cars and I feel like trying to win.

I like using all of my cars even if I can't win because sometimes I will simply see how well I can drive and finish against faster cars.

It would be great if we could set up online races for hot hatchbacks, or 70s Euro, etc and automatically restrict the car selection of people who join. Until then, I name the lobby best I can and use the kick button for people who won't listen.
 
i would like if they add minimal and maximal car weight and or horsepower.
Drivetrain limitation(FF FR or so only)
Year(s) limitation.
 
funny the mr2 is mentioned in this thread, the only car (in the 450-500pp range) that i have trouble with is the 111r when driving the mr2. at least on nurb.. i dont race the other tracks much. in this case, i say its the tune and the driver :) it's not as "easy" to drive as most but it is bloody fast
 
Oh yes, restriction options would be nice 👍, e.g
  • timeline, (60s to 70s)
  • race/road/tuner, ...
  • cartype: sedan, hatch, SUV, ...
  • List of eligable cars
  • List of banned cars (no NSX)
  • drivetrain
  • maximum percentage of power-restriction
  • ...
 

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