Would you recommend getting shift?

If the physics don't feel good I won't even bother buying it, just as I didn't buy GRID or DIRT 1/2.

I am a huge racing fan but not much of a gamer as such, so unless it feels right I have no interest in spending 100 bucks on it :)

Game prices in AU are ludicrous. They were set back when $100AU was about equal to $60US and haven't changed since. Buy online from the US or Asia, saves you $40 for the minor inconvenience of waiting a few days.
 
^ Yeah they are ridiculous, the only reason I buy here is to trade old games that I don't want anymore. Otherwise I buy on Ebay from the States :)
 
Game prices in AU are ludicrous. They were set back when $100AU was about equal to $60US and haven't changed since. Buy online from the US or Asia, saves you $40 for the minor inconvenience of waiting a few days.

Is the PS3 games region coded. In other words, can I play games on my PS3 slim from the US and other countries?

If not then that is why you pay for the extra $40.
 
No, they're not region locked. I've got a Japanese PS3, and I've used it to play JP, US and EU games. DVDs are, Blurays are, but PS3 games are not.
 
If the physics don't feel good I won't even bother buying it, just as I didn't buy GRID or DIRT 1/2.

I am a huge racing fan but not much of a gamer as such, so unless it feels right I have no interest in spending 100 bucks on it :)

Well, I need BOTH. I found GT5 as great, if not a GREATER disappointment than Shift, simply because, even though there are great physics and good wheel implementation, there's nothing to DO with them!

One wonders, as a racing fan, what you think of GT5? Unless you ONLY play online, in lobbies only populated by clean driving Friends , I can barely find any RACING in it at all...

You aren't buying into that 'driving' drivel, are you? :sly:
 
You love your capital letters don't you :) I am in about the same situation, I love GT5 for what it is, but not as a racing game. The physics are brilliant and I still love comparing cars around the Nordschleife and I enjoy photo mode but if I want some excitement I play F1 2010 👍
 
F1 2010 is a much better game than GT5 it is just a shame that I dont feel connected to the road in that game but the dynamic weather is much better than GT5, the graphics are also better IMO, the career mode is a lot better, the AI cant even be compared and that goes also for the damage system... just a shame about the dodgy physics IMO and terrible force feedback almost makes me feel that the game was made for pad users.
 
^ Dodgy physics? I must be playing a different game because the physics are excellent

F1 2010's physics is good as long as ALL THE ASSISTS are switched OFF, many people do not know that - TCS off, ABS off, Active Steering off, Tyre Wear on, Fuel Weight/Usage on...
 
F1 2010's physics is good as long as ALL THE ASSISTS are switched OFF, many people do not know that - TCS off, ABS off, Active Steering off, Tyre Wear on, Fuel Weight/Usage on...

That's true of pretty much every game though.
 
^ Dodgy physics? I must be playing a different game because the physics are excellent

If you say so... I also said IMO because for me it is very difficlt to judge the physics when I cant feel the cars or road surface when theres no connection to the road (bad force feedback) so if the physics are infact briliant (wich to me they do not seem to be - they seem like an upgrade on the grids openwhellers physics) then the force feedback department is even worse than I thought...
And yes I have all assists turned off because I play with a wheel and thats IMO the only way to have fun (it doenst make the game easier but it sure makes it more fun)

PS: Fuel usage only affects the player doenst affect the AI... so thats a bit of a flaw there in the physics department (it has been confirmed by the devs)

But the game itself is brilliant, the AI puts up a good fight especially in spain, even if I feel like Im driving a boat...
 
I guess, for me, the ONLY thing Shift had wrong was the physics.

Besides the physics, you are forgetting...

... the pathetically low car count.
... the lack of being able to have more then one of the same car.
... the horrible tuning.
... the Crazy 8 races that look more like a demolition derby.
... the broken credit system with nothing buy after everything was bought.

Just a start.:)

Oh, and spent loads of time on Shift 1, and got the Platinum trophy on it before I got rid of it.
 
If you say so... I also said IMO because for me it is very difficlt to judge the physics when I cant feel the cars or road surface when theres no connection to the road (bad force feedback) so if the physics are infact briliant (wich to me they do not seem to be - they seem like an upgrade on the grids openwhellers physics) then the force feedback department is even worse than I thought...

F1 2010 wasn't very different from Grid at all in terms of what it uses for data structure (similar to the way you can see rFactor in Shift). But from what I read/heard from them, they did do a lot of work in terms of the engine on making it do F1 cars specifically (suspension model changes, changes in tickrate/input loop response, etc) to make it more capable of at least basically looking and acting like you're driving an F1 car.
 
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They aren't very different from Grid at all in terms of what it uses for data structure (similar to the way you can see rFactor in Shift). But they did do a lot of work on making it do F1 cars specifically (suspension model changes, changes in tickrate/input loop response, etc) to make it more capable of at least basically looking and acting like you're driving an F1 car.

Thanks for clearing that up ;) . I dont know anything about analizysing game data but thats what it felt to me - so I wouldnt call the physics brilliant.

But I will say it again the game is a very fun game to play and if they sort out the physics and FFB they got a winner (damn Im beggining to sound like a broken record :D Ive been saying that to almost every racing game Ive played on console :dopey:)
 
... the Crazy 8 races that look more like a demolition derby.

Come on. Those tracks were intentionally demolition derbys, there was no other way to play them. They were there for people who like to smash stuff up, and if you played them as a bit of a laugh instead of for serious racing they were good fun.

I think they were a good addition to the game. Something where you can turn your brain off for a bit and just play like you're 12 years old again. It was fun to get a couple of beers in you, sit down and just go wild sliding your car around corners and trying not to get taken out on the crossover.

As long as they're not a must play part of the career (they weren't) and as long as there's not heaps of dev time devoted to them that could have been better spent elsewhere (not really) I don't see the problem.
 
Come on. Those tracks were intentionally demolition derbys, there was no other way to play them. They were there for people who like to smash stuff up, and if you played them as a bit of a laugh instead of for serious racing they were good fun.

I think they were a good addition to the game. Something where you can turn your brain off for a bit and just play like you're 12 years old again. It was fun to get a couple of beers in you, sit down and just go wild sliding your car around corners and trying not to get taken out on the crossover.

As long as they're not a must play part of the career (they weren't) and as long as there's not heaps of dev time devoted to them that could have been better spent elsewhere (not really) I don't see the problem.

It's obvious you enjoyed them. I personally did not. :ouch:I guess it will be a case of agree to disagree or what's excusable for you might not be for me.:)
 
It's obvious you enjoyed them. I personally did not. :ouch:I guess it will be a case of agree to disagree or what's excusable for you might not be for me.:)

Nobody force you to do those races in orther to progress in your career... those and the drift races I didnt do and finished the game.
 
I totally agree with Imari. Those races were great fun, even for adults, just like stock car in Grid. Frustrating but fun. Especially online.
 
It's obvious you enjoyed them. I personally did not. :ouch:I guess it will be a case of agree to disagree or what's excusable for you might not be for me.:)

I'm trying to point out that they weren't a fault with the game. They worked exactly as intended. If you didn't find that fun, that's cool, you just avoid them. I avoided the drift events, but I don't think that their inclusion is a reason to fault the game. If they were a mandatory part of progression, or detracted in some way from the part of the game you like, I could see why you'd complain.

But they don't.
 
Nobody force you to do those races in orther to progress in your career... those and the drift races I didnt do and finished the game.

I avoided the drifting as well. In order to get my Platinum trophy I was after, I was somewhat forced to do that. A lesser of two evils per se.

I'm trying to point out that they weren't a fault with the game. They worked exactly as intended. If you didn't find that fun, that's cool, you just avoid them. I avoided the drift events, but I don't think that their inclusion is a reason to fault the game. If they were a mandatory part of progression, or detracted in some way from the part of the game you like, I could see why you'd complain.

But they don't.

As I said above, agree to disagree. That and the Test Drive track events in GT5 make me cringe.

See above as well.
 
Besides the physics, you are forgetting...

... the pathetically low car count.

I'd rather have 100 cars that all could be raced and the AI drive well than 1000+ that can't give you an acceptable race.


... the lack of being able to have more then one of the same car.

See above


... the horrible tuning.

See above


... the Crazy 8 races that look more like a demolition derby.

Top Gear Test Track, anyone?


... the broken credit system with nothing buy after everything was bought.

Worse than a game with 133M+ worth of cars to buy but a 20M credit cap? And, see post #1...

Just a start.:)

Not a good one, IMO. There's a difference between a car collecting game and a car RACING game. Perhaps I'm just not that into the first type. Don't WANT every car in the game. Don't NEED every car in the game. And, in Quick Race Mode, can DRIVE every car in the game. Just not a Pokemon type player... sorry.

Oh, and spent loads of time on Shift 1, and got the Platinum trophy on it before I got rid of it.

Played Shift incessantly. Never got the Platinum Trophy. Couldn't care LESS about Trophies. I just care about racing. Did PLENTY of that! :sly:
 
I think we can consider to close this thread, buying Shift 1 now, instead of Shift 2 doesn't make ANY sense. Op was asking about the customization, Shift 2 will have mirror livreries from side to side and other epic win features, like damages, night racing, new physics, new AI.. froget the old one.. The revolution is coming!
 
Yeah, at the date that the original question was asked there might have been reasonable reasons to pick it up cheap.

With Shift 2 around the corner, buying Shift 1 today would be daft. Pick it up for $5 in six months if you're desperate to see where Shift 2 came from maybe, but it'll probably be entirely obsolete if Shift 2 turns out anything like it's supposed to.
 

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