WRC 3 - 2012 (Milestone games)

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if i were in you i won't trust any review.

Not only reviews from sites, people who will get it, youtube videos, people here talking about it, if it had negative reception then it's time to buy that Dirt 3 complete edition
 
I would rather WRC 1 or 2 than any of the Dirt games.
 
But they still got the basics of rallying right.

that's debatable... I personally hated everything about 1. Richard Burns Rally/RSRBR is the daddy and until anyone gets even close to that, all we'll get from Milestone/Blackbean that's anyway descent is the 2012 Car Liverys. I mean I cant even use my Fanatec wheel and pedals and I won't hold my breath for those muppets to include Full wheel support this time round. Can you guys imagine how goods this title would have be now if a better developer started it 3 years back? Time will tell, shame though that we are the beta testers for Blackbean on the 3rd attempt. As a Huge WRC fan, this Title in general makes me very sad and sometimes Angry...
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Really??? I'm mean really? 1 has to be the worst Wrc game in history and 2 wasn't far from it...

I disagree wholeheartedly. 1 was their first attempt, they are allowed a slightly iffy title at their first crack. The 2nd one, I though was very good, easily as good as if not better than the SCEE published ones on the PS2. Now when you consider the budget that would have been thrown at the license under Sony I think Milestone/Black Bean are doing a grand job, its getting better with every iteration and the 3rd game is already looking to be an excellent improvement. Its all well and good saying RBR/RSRBR are the best (they are good) But it is not available for console players and does not have a dedicated single player career (RSRBR that is). Its also a 3gb+ download for those who do have PC's.

Also if you could detail why you think WRC 2 was so awful I would be happy to hear it.
 
Also if you could detail why you think WRC 2 was so awful I would be happy to hear it.

Blackbean/Milestone have had several opportunities to listen to WRC fans on what they want in a Rally title and refuse to do so. If you have been to their Facebook page you'll see the general opinion on how bad BB/MS are with the WRC Licence since they got the licence 3 years back. As for some points on why I think WRC 2 is so awful apart from owning a copy, here's my opinions. Many issues from previous game haven't been addressed. Very Poor graphics & sounds with the PS3 capabilities. The Road to WRC is almost completely unchanged. Majority of the stages are the same as the previous year. The Co-Driver is possibly the most annoying I've ever experienced in Any rally game. The ability to use a Fanatec Wheel and Pedals is nowhere to be seen on both PS3 and PC. Crappy Physics and sounds directly from the first one. Interior views look to me like PS2 Console, again, nothing near the capability of the PS3. The respawning is utter crap and very annoying. Don't get me wrong, I get no benefit from highlighting the numerous problems with this series, but I as a WRC fan want to get the best Rally Sim/Game out there(LONG LIVE RSRBR), but BB/MS seem to take this title to casually for my liking, They need to learn how to implement feedback from the fans and maybe even some WRC drivers. Just seems like a constant lame attempt year after year. Think about it, by the time you pickup the 3rd installment, you will be after paying roughly $180 + tax and for what? 2 previous badly produced Beta Games? I'm sorry, but if We the Fans don't highlight the numerous problems with the series, then BB/MS will continuously give us a new title each years til their contract end(2 years thank God!) with very little improvements, similar trend to the last 2 failed attempts... I will admit though that WRC 3 looks pretty, but so does a Ferrari with no engine, looks pretty but goes nowhere...

On a bright note, what a weekend in Finland! Loeb is simply untouchable!
 
RSRBR is pretty crap too though..

Yeah WRC2 had its problems, but you know what? It was fun, I have it on PC so I have no issues with its graphics, I thought it was quite handsome for a low budget game. I don't know if you play the SBK games from the same company, but they have improved year on year dramatically, they are unarguably the best motorbike racing games out there.

I dunno what I'm trying to say. The WRC games currently simply have no competition. RSRBR does not count as its not a game. Richard Burns Rally is way too dated, not WRC licensed and has a rubbish career mode. Until there is some compeition we just have to make do with these WRC games and WRC3 I am sure will be the best yet.
 
SRT have a video up showing off the Rally Catalunya:


Looks so much better than WRC2, nice narrow looking stages, good wheel support by the looks of it and improved sounds/graphics (and they aren't finalised yet).
 
Very promising preview. They said it is right on the cusp of toppling RBR so that is a bold statement indeed.

Certainly gathering hype for this now.
 
MildAshers
In your eyes perhaps. RBR is very very outdated these days you know.

Outdated in all but physics, of course... But physics are a big deal. It'll be hard for them to make a realistic rally sim that will appease RBR's fans, though, because RBR has been said to be harder than real life. Therefore, close enough is good enough for me, I mean I've never driven a WRC car or even fast off-road in any car so I have no frame of reference!
 
Even the physics. It's only the most realistic rally game out there because it's the only sim rally game out there. There is no competition to its crown. If WRC3 can get close and provide nice graphics, sounds, stages and so on (which look promising so far) then I don't think it should have any difficulty toppling RBR's "Best rally game" crown which it owns by default.

Just the way I look at it :D
 
Looks like a day one for me. Just one question for the pc guys how easy will it be to mod h-gate support for the shifter?

I know nothing when it comes to modding and I suspect they wont support h-gate shifter (didn't the last time) but how easy is it to mod something like that?
 
MildAshers
Even the physics. It's only the most realistic rally game out there because it's the only sim rally game out there. There is no competition to its crown. If WRC3 can get close and provide nice graphics, sounds, stages and so on (which look promising so far) then I don't think it should have any difficulty toppling RBR's "Best rally game" crown which it owns by default.

Just the way I look at it :D

Yeah that's fair enough, I never really thought of it that way to be honest... The only two things since RBR that I know of that even approach realistic rally simulation are the first Dirt game (which has narrow but short stages and convincing physics) and certain rFactor mods, but even they don't come close. I honestly do hope this is a better simulation than RBR, just because nice graphics and sound are nice, and as I said before once you know that RBR is actually more difficult than real life then a game that 'comes close' to matching it may actually be spot on.
 
Have you used RSRBR before? Cause if you did and you like Rally you would be in the RBR Fanboys club too...

However, the difference between a racing game fan and a rabid fanboy is the ability to enjoy others games and not feel the need to rubbish everything else ;)
 
However, the difference between a racing game fan and a rabid fanboy is the ability to enjoy others games and not feel the need to rubbish everything else ;)

I personally can't stand the term fan-boy, I think its very juvenile term and mostly found between Xbox/PS who can agree on what's best in their opinion...
 
I personally can't stand the term fan-boy, I think its very juvenile term and mostly found between Xbox/PS who can agree on what's best in their opinion...

Quite ironic that you seem to fit the term so perfectly then.
 
Even the physics. It's only the most realistic rally game out there because it's the only sim rally game out there. There is no competition to its crown. If WRC3 can get close and provide nice graphics, sounds, stages and so on (which look promising so far) then I don't think it should have any difficulty toppling RBR's "Best rally game" crown which it owns by default.

Just the way I look at it :D

It won't get close in the pysics department though, I'd bet on that.
The car behaviour looks horrid, and I'm not even comparing it to RBR, but to the old WRC games from Evolution (which weren't the most realistic games either, but good). The cars there had weight, proper body roll and you could change the game from simulation to arcade and back with the driving aids (WRC4 Rally Evolved).
 
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