X1 Sebastian Vettel Challenge with a Dualshock

The key to this car is smoothness, and the DS3 just cannot give the smooth input the X2010 requires compared to a wheel.
 
Speedy6543
If you really are about to give up there is a way to get gold on Suzuka.
It's not quite the honest way but hey, they put the hole there on purpose in the latest patch (1.10) as you couldn't do this with patch 1.09.



Do use the search engine above next time as this is like the 10th or so thread of the Vettel challenge
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I found 2 glitchs on Nurburgring Vettel Event to, i can enter on the glitch but im always reset for the track.
 
Try turning off all HUD info, SRF on, ABS 1, driving line on for brake points, and drive from hood cam(3rd one, car seems more stable and better view of track). Helped me gold it, albeit with a wheel.
 
@Max Cavalera Suzuka glitch also resets you to the track if you dont use the path in the video too. So if you really know the glitch in nürburgring share with us the video than we can find a path without reset.
 
Im using this settings on Nurburgring:

SR: ON
ABS: 10
Brakes: 10R/10F
Line: on

And all the others off.

And at the second checkpoint i cant do better than 34.600
i now i have to reach this checkpoint at 33.900, but i cant. This is the most hard for me.

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i cant do the Valvoline Curve and Ford Curve fast. I think i brak a lot on this two.
 
vcx
@Max Cavalera Suzuka glitch also resets you to the track if you dont use the path in the video too. So if you really know the glitch in nürburgring share with us the video than we can find a path without reset.
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You have sure? Ok. Im gonna try make a video of that, and put here. I hope you can help. I found 2 glitchs on that track, but when im always enter on the glitch, the game reset me for tha track.
 
awebyrne
OK, I'm calling out all the people on this forum who say that they have managed gold on the Sebastian Vettel challenge with a controller. I have golded every licence, race and special event in GT5 with a DS3, but this seems - frankly - impossible.

I popped out a 2.11:527 on the Nurburgring today - two, near-perfect laps with a DS3 at 1.05:7xx apiece. The examples I've seen of this challenge being completed on Youtube all seem to be done with wheels - none of the jerky turning that characterises D-pad use. The car in these examples also seems to be simultaneously braking and accelerating in corners, something that is near impossible with a DS3.

So: if it's actually possible to complete this with a controller, help please...feel like I'm so close, squeezing every available tenth out of every corner, but 3.5 seconds away from gold is an eternity in racing...
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Chase camera, SRF on, ABS 1, brake balance 10/10, manual transmission, everything else off (I use sixaxis).
Gold-worthy sector times should be:
Left: optimal
Right: marginal

#1: 0:19.6xx/0:19.8xx
#2: 0.33.8xx/0.34.0xx
#3: 0:48.6xx/0.48.8xx
Lap 1: <1:04.1xx

Lap 2 should be about 0.2 faster if you push it.


That's for Nurburgring. Suzuka laps should be Lap 1 <1:05.3xx/Lap 2 <1:04.5xx and Monza should be 1:03.xxx/0:59.xxx.
Suzuka was not hard (2 hours for gold), Monza was very easy (30 minutes for gold) but Nurburgring was very hard (took me 6 days for gold).

What's funny is that I started on 2:10.1xx (my first time ever), it has taken me 6 days/3000km to shave off 2.1 seconds.
Good luck.
 
Merquise
It's like this:

1 in 1.000.000 people can do it with a DS3.
1 in 10.000 people can do it with a wheel.

So yes it's possible with both DS3 and wheel, the question is: do you think you're that 1 person out of the 1 million?
I;m a good driver, golded everything with rather ease using DS3. Golded all drivers licenses in a day for example. But the Vettel challenge?
For that challenge I actually went to buy a desk so I could put my steeringwheel onto it to use with my PS3 and computer monitor. And even then it too me 3 loooooong frustrating days to get it.

Vettel challenge has got to be in my top 3 most idiotic things I ever did with computergames, and I once played a 72 hour CounterStrike LAN from which I got a pneumonia afterwards..

Seriously: Vettel is rediculous and imho has no place in a simulator like GT5.
It;s not fun, the reward is a rediculous arcade car thats no fun, this whole challenge should be removed if it were up to me.
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Haaaa....my kind of obsessive personality. I have played Gran Turismo since GT1 and my philosophy has always been simple: give me gold or give me death! Popped out a 2:08.643 on the 'gring last night. Now that I know it is possible, I'll get it done or get pneumonia in the attempt!

It's the first lap of this challenge that's killing me. My fastest time on the first lap is 1:04.6xx, but I've been as quick as 1:03.6xx on the second. I seem to get a full second from the exit speed that comes from the last corner.

Thanks also to MrDrift98 for the throttle tip. Methinks that is the key to the last six tenths. I learned GT when I was a youngster with the D-pad (and have no time to learn again with the analogue sticks) so throttle control has always been a weakness (I usually tap the X button repeatedly to mimic this effect). Time for some creative thumb action...
 
599GT
Chase camera, SRF on, ABS 1, brake balance 10/10, manual transmission, everything else off (I use sixaxis).
Gold-worthy sector times should be:
Left: optimal
Right: marginal

#1: 0:19.6xx/0:19.8xx
#2: 0.33.8xx/0.34.0xx
#3: 0:48.6xx/0.48.8xx
Lap 1: <1:04.1xx

Lap 2 should be about 0.2 faster if you push it.


That's for Nurburgring. Suzuka laps should be Lap 1 <1:05.3xx/Lap 2 <1:04.5xx and Monza should be 1:03.xxx/0:59.xxx.
Suzuka was not hard (2 hours for gold), Monza was very easy (30 minutes for gold) but Nurburgring was very hard (took me 6 days for gold).

What's funny is that I started on 2:10.1xx (my first time ever), it has taken me 6 days/3000km to shave off 2.1 seconds.
Good luck.
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Thanks for this as well. Those split times are useful. Routinely getting 34.5 for the second split (first lap) and 33.8 (second lap). Need to speed up the standing start somehow...
 
599GT
Chase camera, SRF on, ABS 1, brake balance 10/10, manual transmission, everything else off (I use sixaxis).
Gold-worthy sector times should be:
Left: optimal
Right: marginal

#1: 0:19.6xx/0:19.8xx
#2: 0.33.8xx/0.34.0xx
#3: 0:48.6xx/0.48.8xx
Lap 1: <1:04.1xx

Lap 2 should be about 0.2 faster if you push it.

That's for Nurburgring. Suzuka laps should be Lap 1 <1:05.3xx/Lap 2 <1:04.5xx and Monza should be 1:03.xxx/0:59.xxx.
Suzuka was not hard (2 hours for gold), Monza was very easy (30 minutes for gold) but Nurburgring was very hard (took me 6 days for gold).

What's funny is that I started on 2:10.1xx (my first time ever), it has taken me 6 days/3000km to shave off 2.1 seconds.
Good luck.
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Sixaxis? You can tilt the controller to turn?
 
I bronzed these events before the sensitivity patch and I knew it wouldnt be possible to Gold or even Silver. I forgot about teh new patch of Sensitivty went back and am getting gold times, just not consecutive laps...I tried for about 30 minutes....

Before the patch and before the addition of a new bronze time, I bronzed Nurb and Monza in 1 hour and Suzuka in 7....

So set Sensitivity to 6 or 7 and you'll be laughing. Just remember now you can turn a lot harder and faster just like a wheel....

I got a 1:03.397 in one lap of Nurb....a 58.767 on Monza and a 1:03.981 on Suzuka...But again have to do it twice :/...The heart starts pumping when you know youre on gold time. And stuffing up is easier after that. Just remember to stay as calm as possible and you kill this sucker.

Anything is possible with the addition of Sesitivity and DS3.

I kinda feel cheated now, I use to be proud of my bronze before the patches, now anyone can do it :/...
 
Like some others, I'd also golded all the X1 challenges using the DS3.
With the controller sensitivity setting option, it's easier now (still, I wouldn't say it's become a piece of cake though).
GTRunner I'd also bronzed the challenges prior to patch 1.06. But I guess I should be prouder for golding them now.

I used these Driving Options:
Driving Line: On
Traction Control: Off
Skid Recovery Force: On
Active Steering: Off
Active Stability Management (ASM): Off
ABS: 1
Controller Steering Sensitivity: 7

- Use the sector/lap times as guidelines, but don't obsess over them as it may add more pressure to you. I've seen ppl on youtube gold the challenges even with higher lap times.
- In 3rd-person view, everything may seem somewhat slower. But still, use whichever camera view you're comfortable with.
- Experiment with ABS 1 and ABS 10. When I switched from ABS 1 to ABS 10 in Nurburgring, I found new 'ways' of braking/accelerating (it's like having an epiphany). I then switched back to ABS 1 and improved my times.
- Don't need to tinker with brake balance, I know I didn't.
- After the 1st lap, if you feel you're within range of getting gold - turn off the ghost car (press Up on the D-pad) so that you don't get distracted when you're near him.
- In fact you may want to turn off all Race Info Display altogether (pause during race and goto Quick Options). I didn't turn off because I feel more comfortable with the info and knowing how far ahead the ghost car is.
- Don't glitch/cheat. Why play at all if you're gonna cheat~ :guilty:

I've uploaded my gold runs here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=217166
The jerky turnings will show that they're done with a DS3.

I like doing/discussing about these challenges. In the future, I may want to go back and redo them all. :dopey:
 
I've done Monza in a hour, Nurburgring in around 2-3 hours and Susuka in some 3-4 hours. I recommend taking a break after a hour and not playing any other car during the break. Just watch the replays, relax, and keep your mind focused. Also if your really tired then don't play.
 
I have done it after tons of practice and attempts. The nurburgringngave me the most trouble because of the stupid curbstones and Suzuka just took a little practice and Monza was just timing to cut the chicanes as fast as possible. At first I had all bronzes got the S.vettel X2010 and that took me quite awhile because this car was hard to drive quickly at first then I watched some videos on YouTube for help and just practiced 1 track and after maybe 20 practice runs on monza felt confident in my times and did the real event probably 0 times before I got gold.
1) 1:03:584
2)59:264
And then I started practicing Suzuka which took me a day or two of attempts but I nailed that with more practice than Monza and then came the nurburgring. It seemed like I just couldn't get it. All my time was dropping after the first and second checkpoint so went to practice mode and just did that area over and over. I probably spent 10 hours of practicing this track and another 3 hours of attempting it. When I was on YouTube looking at how fast to hit certain corners I saw in one guys discreption that he had trouble beating it with the ds3 so he bought a $170 or something around there wheel and then he beat the races after several days and then returned the wheel. Good luck

Edit: forgot to add settings
Manual transmission using the hood cam
SRF on
TCS on 1 for a faster launch not as much wheel spin
Controller sensitivity on 7
Everything else off
 
tALEz
Like some others, I'd also golded all the X1 challenges using the DS3.
With the controller sensitivity setting option, it's easier now (still, I wouldn't say it's become a piece of cake though).
GTRunner I'd also bronzed the challenges prior to patch 1.06. But I guess I should be prouder for golding them now.

I used these Driving Options:
Driving Line: On
Traction Control: Off
Skid Recovery Force: On
Active Steering: Off
Active Stability Management (ASM): Off
ABS: 1
Controller Steering Sensitivity: 7

- Use the sector/lap times as guidelines, but don't obsess over them as it may add more pressure to you. I've seen ppl on youtube gold the challenges even with higher lap times.
- In 3rd-person view, everything may seem somewhat slower. But still, use whichever camera view you're comfortable with.
- Experiment with ABS 1 and ABS 10. When I switched from ABS 1 to ABS 10 in Nurburgring, I found new 'ways' of braking/accelerating (it's like having an epiphany). I then switched back to ABS 1 and improved my times.
- Don't need to tinker with brake balance, I know I didn't.
- After the 1st lap, if you feel you're within range of getting gold - turn off the ghost car (press Up on the D-pad) so that you don't get distracted when you're near him.
- In fact you may want to turn off all Race Info Display altogether (pause during race and goto Quick Options). I didn't turn off because I feel more comfortable with the info and knowing how far ahead the ghost car is.
- Don't glitch/cheat. Why play at all if you're gonna cheat~ :guilty:

I've uploaded my gold runs here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=217166
The jerky turnings will show that they're done with a DS3.

I like doing/discussing about these challenges. In the future, I may want to go back and redo them all. :dopey:
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Cheers to all for the tips. Much appreciated. This is the hardest gold challenge in the history of GT by a fairly wide margin.

I have Suzuka and Monza gold now (golded Monza in less than 15 minutes - it was almost insultingly easy!) and my most recent effort on the Nurburgring was a 2:08.186 (less than two miserable tenths!). My fastest on Lap 1 is 2:04.18x and my fastest on Lap 2 is 2:03.67x - now I just have to put them together somehow.

Incidentally, my fastest times have come from AT, SRF on, ABS 10, Sensitivity 7 and all else off. I might try gt addict's tip and put TC on 1 to see if it gives me a few tenths off the line...
 
I'm actually surprised at how many ppl actually find Nurburgring harder than Suzuka.
Like some others, I find it was the other way for me.

Sure yes, I felt very frustrated doing Nurburgring, and while doing Suzuka I had the more 'relaxed' and numb feeling.
But still to me, Suzuka was tougher. Perhaps it's because I did it last.
Anyway, shows how alot of us have different driving styles.

awebyrne since your best lap times are well under 'gold times', it's only a matter time till you nail it. Just stick to it until you feel numb and you'll gold it before realizing.
 
I got all bronzes a while ago with DS3, but cannot come even remotely close to the silver times, let alone gold. I am average or slightly-above average at the game, I guess (middle-of-the-pack in online races, generally speaking).

I used all aids off, except ABS=1. I had to change the steering sensitivity to +7 (highest setting) to get through the Schumaker S on Nurburgring at full speed, and I kept it at that setting for the other tracks.

I read a tip on this forum to use the 'roof-cam' (don't know the name, but the one where you can see the 'hood' or front of your car just a little bit). I tried it out the other day, and agree that it's a great idea--your car seems like it's going in slo-motion, if you're used to the standard "bumper-cam" (where you can't see the car at all). I originally got the bronzes in bumper-cam view, but tried the 'roof cam' the ther day, and was able to beat my old best time at Monza, posting a time around 2.10 (still nowhere near silver/gold). :[

I imagine a few people can get gold with DS3, but I just can't make the turns at high enough speed for gold with the controller. I watched clips online & tried to match my line/braking/throttle with what I saw in the videos, but the sumbitch car always got too wide & went off track any time I tried to run harder than a bronze time.

I bought a wheel, and can't steer the thing to save my life... back to being a total n00b. I keep reading that it just takes practice, but I think I just suck at it.

Anyway--bronze is not too hard with a DS3. Just get used to the car, try the roof cam, and practice. I'm now of the opinion that all bronze takes is staying on the track without going tooo slow... gold however, is ridiculously difficult. For me, anyway.
 

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