Xbox 360 doomed?
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Games do not have to look like Cryisis or need Crysis system requirements.
About ram costs, they are not going to overdue it if they don't have to. Your ideal console sounds more like a gaming pc rig and i'm pretty sure Sony or MS wont take a $400 hit per system as no gaming pc is going to even be in the $400 range. Their goals are not to match pc specs to run Crysis
. But to build a system they can produce in great numbers while keeping the per system losses down. How much are you willing to pay for a console with 8 unnecessary gigs or ram? Seeing whats being done now with 512 is still impressive. So going from 512 to even 2GB is a realistic leap.
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Games do not have to look like Cryisis or need Crysis system requirements.
About ram costs, they are not going to overdue it if they don't have to. Your ideal console sounds more like a gaming pc rig and i'm pretty sure Sony or MS wont take a $400 hit per system as no gaming pc is going to even be in the $400 range. Their goals are not to match pc specs to run Crysis
Cysis came out in 2007 (YES I know there was no computer, which could run it well back then but still...) and the new consoles will arrive around 2013,2014, so about 6,7 YEARS later, I believe it is quite realistic and not unmodest to expect consoles, which can produce far better visuals.
If you do not see this point, well, I don't know.
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Logged into Xbox live today, it's still running.
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I don't have an Xbox and quite frankly never would buy one for the simple fact that I stick to what I know when it comes to electronics, any TV's I buy are always Sony, laptops are Toshiba, mobile phones are Samsung and games consoles I buy are Sony since the PS1, the reason being that they have rarely let me down and if they have at some point, the customer service of the company involved has been first class and the problem resolved immediately. The point I'm getting at is that there will be a lot of like-minded people out there who feel the same way about Microsoft and their Xbox, so I seriously doubt that one or two game series that were exclusive to Xbox that come over to PS3 will change many peoples minds, especially as the series will remain on the Xbox anyway.
Robin
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That's the trap I fell into, buying a brand purely because of loyalty. All my recent Sony stuff has broken, some of it twice under warranty which is why I shop around now and will buy any brand.
I'm tempted to get an Xbox but with rumors of their next generation console getting stronger (they are hiring development staff etc) I might wait for that one. The days of the third party exclusive are basically over, most are timed exclusives. No first party franchises in recent times have sold me 100% in to a console purchase.
Robin.
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Games do not have to look like Cryisis or need Crysis system requirements.
About ram costs, they are not going to overdue it if they don't have to. Your ideal console sounds more like a gaming pc rig and i'm pretty sure Sony or MS wont take a $400 hit per system as no gaming pc is going to even be in the $400 range. Their goals are not to match pc specs to run Crysis
Agreed. It's not a question of technology; they can make a console with "PC-like" specs, but Sony proved that $500 + consoles don't sell (and Kutaragi proved no one is getting that second job
). It's not financially viable to target hardcore niche gamers, they want to sell to the main$tream.
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I tried to log into LIVE today and nothing was left, but a giant crater....Oh my...360 is teh doomed!
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Any update to when this is happening?
Thanks Shouden.
Thanks Shouden.
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I voted yes just because i despise that Dan what'shisface from Turn 10.
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Now that's a logical reason as to why the Xbox360 is doomed, isn't it?
Anyways, to answer the original question of the OP:
Yes, yes it is doomed. Because it'll be replaced rather soon by it's successor, I think. I doubt Microsoft will keep it around that much longer, especiall not after the Wii U has been revealed. Plus, releasing the 360 a year before the PS3 gave MS a massive head start and advantage, so I wouldn't be suprised to see the next Xbox two years before the PS4.
With most games being multi-platform these days, I don't think there's aynthing that could really doom either console in that regard. Price is going to be aa much more important factor in the near future than anything else.
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That to a large degree is true, however I'd like to take it one step further. A lot of people buy a console not because of the games, features, etc., but because their friends have bought one as well. You see, in the United States (for all those reading around the world) there's this saying; "keeping up with the Joneses". There's this whole feeling of losing (note the spelling
) status if you don't have certain things, which is one of the reasons why SUVs were so popular. "I can't be the only one of my friends who doesn't have one!". I've heard that people always go for "quality", and that is a false assumption. People will buy the stuff they need, as cheap as possible, so then they can blow an inordinate amount of money on stupid crap they don't need, and have no real use for. "I can't buy the good socks for $8.99 a pack, I have to drive my SUV which gets 11mpg to Wal Mart, stand in line for thirty minutes, buy the cheap ones from Wal Mart for $4.00 a dozen that don't fit well and will wear out in two months, and then fill up my Chevy Suburban for $150 AGAIN on the way home! But darn it! I got a good "value" on those socks!". Did you really? What I think what's happening now is you're seeing a shift among developers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't many saying they couldn't see the benefits of something like Blu Ray at the beginning? Yet here we are, seeing a game like L.A. Noire occupy three discs on the 360, and only one the PS3. You have Valve incorporating many of their Steam (BLECH!) features into Portal 2 on the PS3. With the added space of Blu Ray, games are going to be getting BIGGER, not smaller, and many developers are going to want that additional space for headroom.
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No, hell no. I would love to buy a XBOX 360, get Forza 2 and Forza 3 (so I can get ready for Forza 4 ). I think there are some great games for both systems and one or the other gains or loses one, it shouldn't affect it at all. ---- Randy 
). I think there are some great games for both systems and one or the other gains or loses one, it shouldn't affect it at all. ---- Randy
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That's only partly true. Metal Gear Solid 4 was "rumored" to be coming to the 360. How did that work out?
The thing about the 360 getting some of those exclusives is that not because the wanted them, it was because they NEEDED them. Take a good look at the so-called "exclusives" that were in the XBox library;
Munch
Bloodwake
Brute Force
Azurik
Alan Wake
Blinx
Grabbed By the Ghoulies
You can kind of see where I'm going here. It's not that they don't have any exclusives, they are incapable of making a GOOD one. Unlike Sony which has Insomniac (yes they are producing a game for EA, but they still have games that are exclusive to the PS3), Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Zipper (say what you want, they still have exclusives for the PS3), and Sony Santa Monica that are all capable of producing some killer games, and have done so in the past. Many of Microsoft's "first party" and even "second party" games look like a collection you'd find in the bargain bin at Best Buy. Take away Halo, Gears of War, and Forza and what's left? This is mind, they wave the big stacks of money around and BUY exclusives, or at least exclusive content for their multiplatform games. It's a shaky business model if you ask me.
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Actually, the poll results on best controller came from a very highly regarded source. The official Xbox 360 forum.
Agreed. It's not a question of technology; they can make a console with "PC-like" specs, but Sony proved that $500 + consoles don't sell (and Kutaragi proved no one is getting that second job
But as the sales figures show, the PS3 is running the 360 close now and sold reasonably when it was at it's most expensive. Aside from the earlier release, the 360 capitalized on the lower price, but it is common knowledge that buying all the add-ons (hd-dvd player, hard drive etc) will run you close to the price of the PS3 when you factor in the original purchase price of the console. For the full 360 experience, it is no cheaper than the ps3, but has the advantage of being able to upgrade over time, making the initial cost lower.
I wanted a 360 when it first came out, and still do to an extent, but as none of their current generations are guaranteed RROD free, I'll stick with my Ps3. I even came close to buying a 360 and games bundle about a year ago, when I was in a store.
But if Sony were to do this, there'd probably be an uproar as Sony claimed the PS3 would have a life of 10 years minimum. As for the 360, there's still some life to go in it. Losing Gears as an exclusive will not really hurt it.
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Actually the Wii won I believe. PS3 has (at this point sold 2 million less consoles than the 360 and was released one year later. PS3 is selling more consoles per year than the 360 and is currently selling, I believe it was, 17000 consoles per week to xbox's 12000.
While I agree console exclusive games don't decide it for a lot of people and I agree the Xbox isn't dead the PS3 deserves a lot more credit.
Please don't give me this crap about 3rd party games looking better on 360 as I have had both and that is absolutely not true. The PS3 had better hardware which is a fact and to this point have proven more durable than the 360's although the new slims are helping with that the old ones gave it that reputation.
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You wanna bet?
And by better hardware are you referring to reliability? Because while not as big of an issue as the 360's RROD was, that's still bollocks. If by better you mean genuinely better as in 'more powerful' then that's only half true, and even then that's only in outright theoretical peak performance, something you'll never see from any game.
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It all really went downhill after Super NES.
Those were the good days.
Anyway 360 is far from doomed. I don't think one franchise amongst many can lead to a console, which is owned by a corporate monster named Microsoft, be doomed.
PS3 has been kickin much ass with Kevin Butler though...
Those were the good days.
Anyway 360 is far from doomed. I don't think one franchise amongst many can lead to a console, which is owned by a corporate monster named Microsoft, be doomed.
PS3 has been kickin much ass with Kevin Butler though...
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XBox 360 dosnt have inFamous or Motorstorm some of the best exclusives ever, along with the always great Gran Turismo Series.
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Thats one side of the road, PS3 doesnt have Forza, Ace Combat, Race-pro, Halo and Fable.
Xbox is far far from doomed.👍
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The fact that Ace Combat 6 was only on 360 nearly caused the demise of the Ace Combat franchise, due to it not selling anywhere near the numbers of the older PS2 titles...
This is why Ace Combat: Assault Horizon is multi-platform. (Yes, I am a big Ace Combat fan)
Anyway I don't see the 360 dying anytime soon, given Halo 4, Forza 4, Gears of War 3, and other titles that are on the horizon. Personally, I am really just looking forward to Forza 4, Gears of War 3, and Mass Effect 3 (multi-platform). Those games will make me turn on my 360 a bit more often lol...
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So is the GOW series coming to the PS3 anyway ?
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That, and Namco says its too expensive and risky to put all your eggs into one basket, and they are a 3rd party anyway so they might as well make games for two bases instead of one.
