xbox 360 pricecut this summer?
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That does sound good. Hopefully they do it before July 29th. 
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Source: GameSpot
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Microsoft PR rep: No 360 price drop this fall
Redmond-based internal publicist John Porcano uses his blog to report that the software giant will not reduce the price of its next-gen console in late 2006.
Until May, conventional wisdom was that, when the holidays rolled around, Microsoft would drop the price of the Xbox 360. The reason? Prevailing opinion reasoned that, since Sony would price the PlayStation 3 near the 360's $299/$399 dual-price SKUs, Microsoft would in turn undermine the console's launch by undercutting its rival--that, and release Halo 3.
However, just like the holiday release of the final chapter in the Master Chief's Covenant-blasting adventures, a budget-priced PS3 is now only the stuff of nerd dreams. Likewise, a late 2006 360 price drop will not come to pass, according to a post on Gamerscoreblog.com by John Porcaro, a Microsoft PR manager.
"As you're all aware, there have been rumors of a price drop for the Xbox 360 coming along later this year," wrote Porcaro. "The official word from folks in the know is that there are currently no plans for a price drop this fall." (Emphasis in the original.)
The rest of Porcaro's blog post goes on to talk about how the cost of a $299 baseline Xbox 360 is a small price to pay to enter the next-generation of gaming, given the fact Xbox Live Silver is free and the console also plays DVDs and MP3s. Oddly, though, Porcaro's superiors in the Redmond, Washington, headquarters had not returned requests for confirmation of the price drop as of press time.
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Well, duh. If they were going to drop prices in November, do you think Microsoft will actually admit to it? If they had, nobody will buy X360 between now and November. They actually left the door wide-open for price drop in Holiday season. I'd say there is a good chance for the price drop.
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P.S. How rude of me. Thank you for the info, TVR&F Fan. 👍
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P.S. How rude of me. Thank you for the info, TVR&F Fan. 👍
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I think they are trying to turn a profit on the system in the next few years and lowering the price now would not be a good idea and could prolong any profit by 2 years. They dont need to lower the price to boost sales, they just need blockbuster titles to do that. Ps2 is out selling the 360 now and there are plenty of 360s instock.
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Wait wait wait.
And that's next gen, how? I love Microsoft PR. All that comes out of them is how their system is the best thing since Windows itself. They are gonna be mighty screwed when the Wii comes out, though, if only because of the stigma related to the baseline 360. I still think Microsoft was rediculously stupid for dumping all normal X-Box support though. Reeks of "Sega, circa 1995".PR Man
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ohh dam... My Xbox just broke! 🤬
hey, well at least I can play halo 2 on 360.
Oh and many people may have proved this point already, but if Microsoft says the price cut ain't gonna happen, dude! thats like Bungie sayin Halo 3 isn't gonna happen and Rockstar saying GTA IV (not Vice City) isn't gonna happen. If Microsoft says "ohh yeah we're gonna cut the premium 360 price in half and burn all the core systems", Sony will do the same dam thing, but better! Like they'll make the "premium PS3s" $150 (BTW these prices are just a metaphore or w.e u call that) and send you the ashes from the "core PS3s." Everybody will be like "👍" Let's get some PS3s cuz we get ashes!
Sorry guys, I ramble when I don't get sleep
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There isn't going to be any kind of price drop untill 2007 or later, you can bet money on that one. If there is going to be one, it won't be much of a drop either, as the PS3 is still going to cost quite a bit.
...But as Peeter Moore said, they wan't to make the 360 and Wii almost like a combo package against the PS3. Ha ha Sony, you suck!
...But as Peeter Moore said, they wan't to make the 360 and Wii almost like a combo package against the PS3. Ha ha Sony, you suck!
^^ Your post was almost good until you got to your last sentence, then you just came across as pretty stupid.
Anyway, no price drop will happen. As long as the PS3 is still more expensive than the 360, they won't drop the price. It's already cheaper than the PS3, so a drop would do little for them in the competition market. When Sony drops their price, they'll move into Microsofts territory, and MS will then drop their price on the 360.
Anyway, no price drop will happen. As long as the PS3 is still more expensive than the 360, they won't drop the price. It's already cheaper than the PS3, so a drop would do little for them in the competition market. When Sony drops their price, they'll move into Microsofts territory, and MS will then drop their price on the 360.
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Have I mentioned how mich I love you?
I still laugh every time I hear Kaz Harai talk about how the PS3 is "worth it." And after watching DL.TV's segment on Blu Ray technology, I really don't see the benefit other than saying "Hey look, I've got Blu Ray!!!"
Sony can kiss my ass at the moment, as they really cannot compete with the fact that you could buy a 360 and a Wii for the same price as the top-line PS3 and have twice as much fun.
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Ah, but he will never get it. He is too busy licking the mud off the boots of every Sony exec every chance he gets. It became pretty obvious reading his posts in the PS3 thread that he pretty much hates everything Microsoft or Nintendo, especially that of Microsoft.
...Ohhh well though. I suppose he could say the same for me and my "close minded" nature against Sony, but as I had said in there many times, I'm not impressed. The PS3 isn't going to be as epic as the PS2 was because the 360 and Wii have allready created so much buzz. The high price combined with a pretty meager selection of titles at launch plus the fact that most of the high-end functionality of the system will be limited to folks who have lots of money makes the PS3 a joke in my opinion.
When I was reading the newest issue of EGM with their post-E3 interview with the execs at Sony, it was just hilarious. They can't seem to understand that people are skeptical about what is going on and that they have a monsterous battle ahead of them against Microsoft and Nintendo. It became pretty clear that they think they can sell consoles simply on the fact that it is a Playstation (of which they probably can), but I think they are underestimating what the public thinks of the console.
I'm not trying to thow mud around folks, I'm simply spelling it out the way that it is. If anything, the DL.TV review of the new Blu Ray stuff solidified my views against the PS3 further, giving me no reason (at the moment) to concern myself with any kind of 1080p Blu Ray "glory" that will come from the PS3. It not only made the movies they watched worse, but to use the full capability of the player, I'd have to be a gazillionaire to not only buy the $1000 Blu Ray player, but also quadruple-figures (atleast) for a larger than 52" HDTV that is capable of 1080p... And in my house, a TV that size just isn't feaseable.
...Ohhh well though. I suppose he could say the same for me and my "close minded" nature against Sony, but as I had said in there many times, I'm not impressed. The PS3 isn't going to be as epic as the PS2 was because the 360 and Wii have allready created so much buzz. The high price combined with a pretty meager selection of titles at launch plus the fact that most of the high-end functionality of the system will be limited to folks who have lots of money makes the PS3 a joke in my opinion.
When I was reading the newest issue of EGM with their post-E3 interview with the execs at Sony, it was just hilarious. They can't seem to understand that people are skeptical about what is going on and that they have a monsterous battle ahead of them against Microsoft and Nintendo. It became pretty clear that they think they can sell consoles simply on the fact that it is a Playstation (of which they probably can), but I think they are underestimating what the public thinks of the console.
I'm not trying to thow mud around folks, I'm simply spelling it out the way that it is. If anything, the DL.TV review of the new Blu Ray stuff solidified my views against the PS3 further, giving me no reason (at the moment) to concern myself with any kind of 1080p Blu Ray "glory" that will come from the PS3. It not only made the movies they watched worse, but to use the full capability of the player, I'd have to be a gazillionaire to not only buy the $1000 Blu Ray player, but also quadruple-figures (atleast) for a larger than 52" HDTV that is capable of 1080p... And in my house, a TV that size just isn't feaseable.
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Right, because if I want to experience the same thing with my PS3 I have to spend more money on the 360.
You are so quick to generalize me.
You don't understand that one of the ONLY reasons I do not directly support Microsoft in an eager manner is because I understand their business history, and their practices.
All of you "children" talk about how you want more competition in the gaming industry, yet you support the one company who tries the hardest to eliminate all competition. Seriously, get a grip on yourself.
Sony has given you everything you praised about the original Xbox, with extras, and you cry about it.
You also know little to nothing about society. Our economy and society will push the PS3 to the top of the charts, simply because our upper echelon of the economy is obsessed with the "biggest" and "best". They will buy the PS3, rock stars will buy it, it'll be plastered all over MTV Cribs, actors will own them, and everyone underneath will want one.
As for the "twice as much fuN" that's just the objective point of view of a narrow minded fanboy who refuses to enjoy any games of an alternate genre on alternate consoles because he can't save money.
Buying a PS3 saves you hundreds in the long run, specifically for it's multi-media purposes. More people are excited about high-def than you think child.
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TBH the PS3 appeals more to its older customers like me, as it sounds like its gonna be the most powerful, and also because they say it could run microsoft operating systems etc, which will basically turn it into a pc also which I like. I like the fact that I can play ps3 games one minute, and then surf the internet the next downloading video etc.
YSSMAN
Okay, what's this "DL.TV" thing you keep bringing up?
I haven't watched the video, since I think I know the one you're referring to.. but it seems to me to be highly innaccurate.
You do realize that the main so-called "problem" with the Blu-Ray launch titles is actually the player and not the discs, right?
Actually that's incorrect.Jedi2016
It's not the player or the discs. It's the files on the disc. A lot of production studios that have released titles on Blu-Ray for it's launch titles have used the ANCIENT MPEG-2 format to encode their movies, which is causing problems for it.
The problem happens because the DSP cannot keep up with the massive amounts of data being sent to it and requiring decoding and then output to the TV. It is significantly more demanding to decode giant file sizes in HD through MPEG-2 than it would have been had they used either MPEG-4 or VC-1.
In the future though, I'm positive that they will not use MPEG-2.
Partially. The Samsung player also has very bad processing for the HDMI port, which most people are using. There's a vast improvement in quality if you switch to component cables. Others have tried denouncing this, but it's probably due to their televisions poor handling of deinterlacing the 1080i signal from the component.
I think the whole "MPEG-2 is antiquated" argument is rediculous. The Bits reported that, while visiting the Pioneer offices, the most impressive high-definition video he'd ever seen in his life was, in fact, using MPEG-2.
I prefer to think of it as a "veteran" format. Unlike these new codecs, the disc authoring people know every little niche of how MPEG-2 works, and they're able to get a lot more out of it than they can from these new codecs, which are new.. no one really knows how to tweak them yet.
Besides, the issues people are reporting don't point to a compression problem. The only complaints I've heard about Blu-Ray is a slightly soft edge, and less-than-stellar color reproduction. Both of which are caused by the HDMI port, and both of which disappear when using component.
This battle is far from over, and anyone who decides that "Blu-Ray sucks" based on one player with known problems, is just an idiot.
I think the whole "MPEG-2 is antiquated" argument is rediculous. The Bits reported that, while visiting the Pioneer offices, the most impressive high-definition video he'd ever seen in his life was, in fact, using MPEG-2.
I prefer to think of it as a "veteran" format. Unlike these new codecs, the disc authoring people know every little niche of how MPEG-2 works, and they're able to get a lot more out of it than they can from these new codecs, which are new.. no one really knows how to tweak them yet.
Besides, the issues people are reporting don't point to a compression problem. The only complaints I've heard about Blu-Ray is a slightly soft edge, and less-than-stellar color reproduction. Both of which are caused by the HDMI port, and both of which disappear when using component.
This battle is far from over, and anyone who decides that "Blu-Ray sucks" based on one player with known problems, is just an idiot.
It's not that MPEG-2 is too old to handle high def video, that's far from the truth, it's a great format, but the file size is what causes problems.
It is known fact that the DSP in the player is not fast enough to decode the large amount of data from the disc because it is encoded in MPEG-2. This is also why it has problems with HDMI. If the DSP were faster, then there would not be an issue at all, over any output medium.
Sony's players will be significantly better, even if they retain MPEG-2 encoding, simply because Cell has the horsepower to decode it at a fast enough speed to maintain both quality and accuracy (current Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players suffer from jitter and visual quality).
It is known fact that the DSP in the player is not fast enough to decode the large amount of data from the disc because it is encoded in MPEG-2. This is also why it has problems with HDMI. If the DSP were faster, then there would not be an issue at all, over any output medium.
Sony's players will be significantly better, even if they retain MPEG-2 encoding, simply because Cell has the horsepower to decode it at a fast enough speed to maintain both quality and accuracy (current Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players suffer from jitter and visual quality).
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"DL.TV" (otherwise known as Digital Live Television) is a television program boradcast over the internet on the DL.TV webpage. The show is ran by Ziff Davis publishing, a cooperate effort between the different technology magazines including PC magazine, Apple World, EGM, etc.
Episode 73 highlighted the new Blue Ray player and burner and went over what the "big deal" is right now. Although like you tha_con they are anticipating what will happen in the future, they too do not seem convinced of it being a format that is "must-have" at the moment. Granted, as technology gets better, it will become cheaper, and this it may eventually be worth getting, but that is still more than a year down the road (atleast).
I belive that I am entitled to an opinion based on early facts, but as noted before, I'm not sold on either format of DVD. As of yet, Blu-Ray is too expensive and offers little benefits to folks with HDTVs smaller than 50" that are capable of 1080p. HD-DVD didn't push the boundary too far, so it eventually won't look as "pretty" as Blu-Ray (1080i and 1080p still look good though), but it is the lack of the MGM Bond movies that aren't too good for me.
Episode 73 highlighted the new Blue Ray player and burner and went over what the "big deal" is right now. Although like you tha_con they are anticipating what will happen in the future, they too do not seem convinced of it being a format that is "must-have" at the moment. Granted, as technology gets better, it will become cheaper, and this it may eventually be worth getting, but that is still more than a year down the road (atleast).
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I belive that I am entitled to an opinion based on early facts, but as noted before, I'm not sold on either format of DVD. As of yet, Blu-Ray is too expensive and offers little benefits to folks with HDTVs smaller than 50" that are capable of 1080p. HD-DVD didn't push the boundary too far, so it eventually won't look as "pretty" as Blu-Ray (1080i and 1080p still look good though), but it is the lack of the MGM Bond movies that aren't too good for me.
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Sure, I'm well aware of Microsoft's past when it comes to the PC market and such, but has Sony not done the same thing in the videogame market against Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft? I think that is a case of "pot called the kettle black," so technically, neither of us are completely "right" in our choise of which company is a "good" company. Evil happens folks, and from my point of view, Microsoft isn't the bad guy, but on your side, it obviously is different.
Anyone with two cents in their head knows that Sony will be able to push the PS3 based on the fact that it is a Playstation alone. I seem to remember saying that somewhere many times before... But even then, you preech that we shouldn't form our opinions based uppon that of others, so why are you implying that because XZIBIT and Geroge Clooney are going to own a PS3 that I need to buy one? People are going to buy them, and people are going to love them, but the $500 price point pissed a lot of people off, and you can't deny that fact.
So you mean to tell me that even when I own a PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube that I'm closeminded? Even when I have used the PS2 far more often than the other two combined? I may choose to play racing and FPS games far more often than most other titles, but the Playstation is my console of choise when it comes to most other genres.
...And don't get me started on money. I'm 19, I pay my own tuition, pay my car payments, cell phone, food, clothing, etc just like any other human being. I'm not making $50,000 a year to go blow on the latest electonic equipment like you seem to, so don't try to educate me on how I should spend or save my money. I work hard to get the money I have in order to enjoy my life the way I see fit, and criticising me for not saving enough so that I can buy a PS3 is childish. Ya know, I can't help that I'm 19 an in college hoping to get a degree so that I can have a good job an earn more money, thats the way life works. I'm happy with my 360 thus far, and that is probably going to be the only "next-gen" console I will have untill the next E3. I've got two tuition payments to go through as of yet, and I will finially have my car paid off in March 07 as well. Maybe after then I will have a PS3, who knows... But don't tell me how to spend my money or critize me for not making enough. That not only isn't fair, it isn't polite either.
So by buying a PS3 I can save money by being able to do things that my computer, for the most part, can allready do? I understand that I will need an add-on to play HD-DVDs on my 360, but as it stands, I don't have a need for either High-Def format as I do not own an HDTV. So that there saves me a couple bucks.
...Then I presume that you refer to the fact that I won't have to pay to play online with the PS3? Please, they showed a few slides and attempted to convince me that it was better than XBOX Live. I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm fine paying my $5 a month to have Live Gold.
I'm quite aware of how excited people are about the new High-Def era, but I'm not certain of your point in criticising my views on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Will I feel the same a year from now? Probably not, again, money playes a role in everything. I'm excited to see High-Def come to the masses a few years down the road, but I think at this point, we have gotten ahead of ourselves to some extent.
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Similarly, I laugh my ass off every time I hear someone say that, becuase it tells me that Peter Moore is still able to fool people into thinking things he wants them to think, just like he was beck in the Dreamcast days. You are a fool if you think everyone who could buy a PS3 will just buy a Wii and 360. The fact is, everyone who can buy a 360 will likely just buy a Wii for that same reason.YSSMAN
That too, shows your ruthless love for the 360, because you basically quoted word-for-word what Peter Moore said, probably without even knowing it.YSSMAN
Anyways, both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are going to fail on the movie marketplace, and HD-DVD is going to fail in the systems marketplace as well. Besides, regardless of if you need hi-def visuals, they are going to be done, and they take up a lot of space. I'm sure by the end of the two consoles' life cycles that there will be PS3 games that can't be ported to the 360, just as there were PS2 games that couldn't be ported to the Dreamcast or Gamecube: It has very little to do with whether the system can play the game. It's a storage thing. Especially since there won't be any HD-DVD games.
