Your favourite country in terms of car styling

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They did, it's called the Sierra.

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Aw yeah....

Anyway my favourite is Italy, both for their small cars and their supercars. From the madness of the Pagani Zonda to the cute quirkiness of the 500 (original and new) they very rarely do badly. Except for the Mito. I think someone sneezed when drawing the front of it.
 
Sorry, but I'm gonna have to call you out for a couple seconds here. The Taurus, as you can see, harvested deeply from the Ford Probe III concept of 1981, which was a Ford Europe design study. Bob Lutz wrote "view daily until familiarity is achieved" when the drawings for the Probe III / Sierra were sent over to America for their use. It can't be claimed an all-American internationally influential design the way you have, unfortunately.

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Also, I'd say this should count:
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JAPAN: Japan has to be a close second. Whereas the Italians are both modern and super stylish, Japan is just modern. Flat out modern, all the way. Take, for instance, the Nissan GT-R. It's sharp, refined, precise - it's the most modern looking car I've ever seen in my life. It is the car equivalent of, say, a digital camera or an iPhone - I feel that you could fit it in with all these up-to-date technological gadgets. "There's my HDTV... and there is my PS3... and there is my iPhone, my £2000 digital camera, and there's my Nissan GT-R". The Japanese, as everyone knows, has a reputation of pure technological achievement and innovation, and the Nissan GT-R is the embodiment of this is car form. Aside from the GT-R, you've also got your Skylines, Imprezas, and Nissan 350-70zs.

Modern Japanese cars reflect what Japan is. Technology, sharpness, precision. I also feel there is a lot of aggression, as well - especially in the Skyline R34, the 2006 model Impreza, the new 370z. Japanese cars are by far the most modern cars on Earth today.

GERMANY: Germany is my third selection. In my opinion, German cars do lack somewhat in passion. They are modern, but not as modern as the Japanese. But, these are no bad things. I look at a German car - M5, RS6, S-Class - and I just get the sense it'll get the job done, and do it well. There's a sense of safety... reliability... engineering. On a stormy, rainy night, with the worst possible conditions - which would be impossible to walk home in - I just even look at an M5 and I think, "that'll get me home safely". With the Germans, you get this sense of perfection... amazing engineering, with surgical precision. I imagine that, yes, there are German cars that break down at the side of the road. But I look at them, and they look like the most solid, reliable cars ever, and nothing will ever go wrong. The Germans are all about engineering and precision, and it really shows in their cars.


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I have to agree with you on Japan. The Japanese are always the leaders in implementing technology. They are my favorite, not only for the look of their cars, but also all of the other design they put in to their cars.
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I have to disagree with you about German cars though. As I see it, they are over engineered. At least in the early 2000 Porsche Carrera's, engine oil level is checked electronically inside of the car. In my mind, it's just another thing to break. As you say, you see them as a car that will always get you home, no matter what, I see the exact opposite. I see this more in Japanese cars, and even more so in a late 90's Japanese car. A friend of mine has a 2003 Passat and he got it with 40k miles on it. Since he's gotten it a year and a half ago, he has had numerous problems with different sensors on the car, where as with my 1994 300zx, I haven't had one single issue. My first car, a 1998 Infiniti I30 has been the single most reliable car I've come across. It has 130k miles on the clock and all that has been replaced on it are the CV joints and the wheel bearings in the front (I ran a set of low offset wheels for a while on it.).

When I see a German car, in terms of styling, I think they are some of the best, and would tie for second on my list with British cars.

So here's my list.

1. Japan (especially in the 90s)
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2. Tie UK and Germany
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3. Korea
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I have to agree with Jim on a blanket point, saying that any particular market was strong in the past century or so takes away too much from a lot of strong points for certain regions during different parts of the 20th century. Going solely on consistency, you really end up with a bunch of gray cars broken up by a few shiny moments when the designers were left to their own to create some amazing vehicles.

Perhaps looking at things categorically would help?

Creativity
This award would have to go to the French, perhaps to the Citroen brand alone. I don't think there are any other vehicles out there that define progress more than the DS and the XM, regardless of what era you are looking at. They are amazing to behold, inside and out, and technologically speaking, its just amazing what they were doing for what was otherwise a family sedan. The current crop of vehicles are no different, and while the Japanese may taut their aerodynamic and purposeful design, and the Italians push their emotions through metal... The French just look mental compared to the others. I love it.

The Everyman
It has to be a draw between the Americans and the British. Hell, Ford alone should get the title. Look at the Taurus, Cortina and Mustang and you get the idea. These were the cars everyone could own, and everyone did, and eventually, everyone copied. No matter how low or high you are on the scale of luxury, there is some kind of "obtainable" factor to the look and feel of the cars that the average man can get.

Built With a Purpose
Does it surprise anyone that it goes to the Germans? If there isn't a reason to have that light, or that line, or that vent there... Why bother? There is nothing wrong with the approach, and while perhaps some have strayed a fair bit from that general theme (I'm looking at you, BMW), it never changes all that much. Perhaps that is why a car like the E39 5-series seems so perfect. Nothing is really there, but everything just is. There isn't a bad-looking spot anywhere to be seen, no matter the angle, no matter the model. Its hip to be square, and the Germans do it well.
 
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I'd have to say...

1) American- Not old Ford Thunderbirds, or 90's Buicks....
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Anyways, my list:

1) United States. Come on, this was an easy choice. Sharp, abrasive, and masculine in every sense.

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I consider most Aussie cars in this category as well.

2) Italy. Love the smooth, elegant, curvy style.

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3) Um I have no clue...I do tend to like a lot of British cars though.

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As a first for this thread, I like German styling the most, most of the modern stuff. I adore the refined and restrained looks, which have come from just about anything from the 90s to now.

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90's to 05's styling from Japan also has me interested. Boxy, yet including curves and still meaningful and purposeful.
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I have to disagree with you about German cars though. As I see it, they are over engineered. At least in the early 2000 Porsche Carrera's, engine oil level is checked electronically inside of the car. In my mind, it's just another thing to break.

We might have different definitions on this but I wouldn't call that over-engineering.

Over-engineered is using twice the amount of steel they needed in the Empire State Building because they weren't sure if using exactly the necessary amount of steel would be strong enough. Over-engineered is a bridge from thousands of years ago still standing today. And over-engineered is a Mercedes W123 with 500k miles on the clock and still feeling as fresh as the day it was made.

What you described with the Porsche above is over complicating. I'd suggest that no car company over-engineers their cars any more - it's just that some companies seem to have more precise tolerances than others so even though they may be complicated they still last longer. Like a Japanese car, for example.

Over-engineering is engineering to make sure that things won't break. At all. Even if it's at the expense of simplicity.
 
I have to say Mazda do make some very nice cars as of late, always with their fluid curves, take the Furai as an example (Again, example! The concept of this design has been incorporated into alot of Mazda's cars, like 3 and 6)

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We might have different definitions on this but I wouldn't call that over-engineering.

Over-engineered is using twice the amount of steel they needed in the Empire State Building because they weren't sure if using exactly the necessary amount of steel would be strong enough. Over-engineered is a bridge from thousands of years ago still standing today. And over-engineered is a Mercedes W123 with 500k miles on the clock and still feeling as fresh as the day it was made.

What you described with the Porsche above is over complicating. I'd suggest that no car company over-engineers their cars any more - it's just that some companies seem to have more precise tolerances than others so even though they may be complicated they still last longer. Like a Japanese car, for example.

Over-engineering is engineering to make sure that things won't break. At all. Even if it's at the expense of simplicity.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Most modern French cars have those sort of needless electronic bits and pieces, but I certainly wouldn't ever suggest that a Megane or a 307 was over-engineered...
 
wheres the love for the British?

The Aston DBs (especially the DBS and DB7) and the Jag XK - both generations, are flawlessly sleek designs.

For me though, I'm heading towards anywhere with Pagani. So Italy is where it's at - even though they designed the Edonis:sick:.

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Perhaps over-engineered wasn't the best term to use. I just see German car manufactures putting out products with really cool electronic gizmos without them really being ready for the market. (e.g. 2002-2008 BMW 7-Series). A friend's parent's owned an 03 7-series and they never had any problems with the engine. However, it was an electrical nightmare. I cannot speak for French cars as I have no experience.

BUT! Back on topic!
 
I was thinking the exact same thing. Most modern French cars have those sort of needless electronic bits and pieces, but I certainly wouldn't ever suggest that a Megane or a 307 was over-engineered...

The last French car I'd call over-engineered was the Renault 19. We had a couple and they were the most reliable cars we've had! I seem to recall the German market bought them in their droves and it even did well in a few reliability surveys. Renault'd probably kill for that sort of acclaim now...

Of course, you barely ever see R19s these days so they may not all have been as good as the ones we had...
 
JAPAN will be my #1 country when it comes to car syling , because you get value for your your money (the best bang for your buck)
the kind of horse power and performance you can get out of a japanes sports car is just amazing compared to some other country expensive sports cars.
Then GERMANY
And I dont really care what comes next ITALY , USA etc.....
 
Bang for the buck doesn't really have anything to do with the topic though. "In terms of car styling". ;)
 
USA. Classics, muscle, modern sports cars... our more purposeful vehicles have all got an aggressive beauty about them I just love.
 
Japan, with their Nissan Skylines,favorite.👍 Least fav., Sweden, Volvo, Volvo's taillights. Awkwardly long and rediculous!👎
 
Renault'd probably kill for that sort of acclaim now...

The engine mechanicals are usually pretty solid, if they could get the electronic bugbears that have plagued them for many years.

Note to Carlos Ghosn- let NISSAN do the electronics. Didn't you learn from the Alfa Romeo Arna? Nissan styling with Alfa engineering did not a good car make.
 
The engine mechanicals are usually pretty solid, if they could get the electronic bugbears that have plagued them for many years.

Note to Carlos Ghosn- let NISSAN do the electronics. Didn't you learn from the Alfa Romeo Arna? Nissan styling with Alfa engineering did not a good car make.
This is brilliant. I had to actually look up this car! While the car doesn't look that bad, I'd have to completely agree with you. :lol:

P.S. Hey, back with the (good)old name!
 
Are we talking brand new cars or all time highs? Right now I think England's got it nailed with Aston and Jag really, but Japan is putting out some cool cars and the US too actually (I didn't say that).

As a whole, I dunno, Japan from the 60s to the late 80s maybe:
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I love the Italian approach when it comes to styling.

I am a big fan of the older Ferrari' s (250GT-series), and the F40.
One other manufacturor that has my attention is Maserati with the nice attention to details, history and incredible bi-turbo engines, which broke a lot.
The current Maserati Gran Turismo " S " would be the first car I would buy if I won the jackpot.

My current car is a Fiat Grande Punto Tjet 120 Sport, which has some styling details from the Maserati 3200 GT.
My next car probably will be the Lancia Delta 1.4 Tjet, which is a piece of art on the road
 
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