Your favourite LMP/LMGTP/LMGT/Group c

[YIN]

Mineorsche rs spyder evo,Porsche 911 gt1,Peugeot 908,Bentley speed 8,Aston Martin DBR9,Toyota ts020,Nissan r390 gt1

 

[RACECAR]

LMP:
BMW V12 LMR
Cadillac LMP
Dome S101
Lola EX257

LMGTP:
Porsche 911 GT1
Lotus Elise GT1
Toyota GT-ONE
Mercedes CLK GTR
Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT:
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R
Aston Martin DBR9
Dodge Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5R
Maserati MC12

Group C:
Jaguar XJR-9
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Peugeot 907

 

[red70mach1]

LMP
BMW V12 LMR

LMGTP
Bentley EXP 8

LMGT
Ferrari 550 Maranello
Aston Martin DBR9

Group C
Ford C100
Sauber Mercedes-Benz C9
Mazda 787B

 

[YIN]

LMP:
BMW V12 LMR
Cadillac LMP
Dome S101
Lola EX257

LMGTP:
Porsche 911 GT1
Lotus Elise GT1
Toyota GT-ONE
Mercedes CLK GTR
Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT:
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R
Aston Martin DBR9
Dodge Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5R
Maserati MC12

Group C:
Jaguar XJR-9
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Peugeot 907

sorry....907 is not a group c car,do you mean 905???

 

[RACECAR]

sorry....907 is not a group c car,do you mean 905???

yeah, I meant that. Got the numbers confused.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

LMP:
BMW V12 LMR
Cadillac LMP
Dome S101
Lola EX257

LMGTP:
Porsche 911 GT1
Lotus Elise GT1
Toyota GT-ONE
Mercedes CLK GTR
Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT:
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R
Aston Martin DBR9
Dodge Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5R
Maserati MC12

Group C:
Jaguar XJR-9
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Peugeot 907

And the Maserati MC 12 has never raced at LM. ACO has outlawed it.

My own favorites are, in no particular order:
Bentley Speed 8, Audi R8, Aston Martin DBR9, Corvette C6R, McLaren F1 GTR, Audi R10, Pescarolo C60H Judd, Dodge Viper GTS-R, Sauber Mercedes C9, Porsche 962, Saleen S7R, Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT, Lister Storm (the GT, not the LMP), Corvette C5R, Ferrari 550M and 575M, Radical SR9 Judd, Mercedes CLK-LM, Lancia LC2. Meh, this list could probably be kind of unending...

 

[m.piedgros]

LMP:

Audi R8

LMGTP:

Bentley Speed 8, Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT:

Easy! Porsche 911 996 GT3RSR, Porsche 911 997 GT3 RSR, Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, Saleen S7R

Group C/(IMSA Camel)GTP:

Porsche 962(C), Mazda 787B

m.piedgros

 

[YIN]

LMP:

Audi R8

LMGTP:

Bentley Speed 8, Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT:

Easy! Porsche 911 996 GT3RSR, Porsche 911 997 GT3 RSR, Chevrolet Corvette C6.R, Saleen S7R

Group C/(IMSA Camel)GTP:

Porsche 962(C), Mazda 787B

m.piedgros

imo,the 997 GT3 RSR looks much better than 996

 

[Michael88]

LMP : Audi R8 (Not a big fan of the AUDI and LMP)
LMP2 : Porsche 06' LMP
LMGTP : Nissan 390 98'
Group C : A tie between the Porsche 962 and the Jaguar XJR9
Imsa GT: BFG 962

 

[MustangSVT]

LM-P1 : BMW V12 LMR, Ferrari 333SP, Pescarolo Courage C60

LM-GTP : Toyota GT-One, Bentley Speed 8

LM-GT1: McLaren F1 GTR, Saleen S7R, Ferrari 550LM

Group C : Sauber Mercedes C9, Nissan R92CP

 

[Jonerz]

@ Mustang SVT: I wouldn't describe the McLaren F1 GTR as an LM GT. Though that is a tough catagorization to make. I think classifying it as an LM GTP, though also a little sketchy, would be the better choice. See Michael88, m.piedgros and RACECAR's posts for reference. They have Panoz Esperante GTR-1, Nissan R390 GT1, and Porsche 911 GT1's listed as GT Prototypes as opposed to GT1 cars because (I am assuming on their behalves) currently LM GT1 regulations don't fit the FIA/ACO GT1 regulations of the 1990's.

My favorites:

LMP: Audi R8, Ferrari 333SP (the later interchangable with Riley & Scott Mk II Olds or Ford -- And the '07 Porsche Spyder is creeping up on the elder statesmen of modern prototype racing.)

LMGTP: Porsche 911 GT1, Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT: (LM GT1)Saleen S7-R, [LM GT(2)]Porsche 911 GT3 R(S)(R) [<-- Anything Porsche really.]

Group C: Porsche 962

 

[Mt. Lynx]

@ Mustang SVT: I wouldn't describe the McLaren F1 GTR as an LM GT. Though that is a tough catagorization to make. I think classifying it as an LM GTP, though also a little sketchy, would be the better choice. See Michael88, m.piedgros and RACECAR's posts for reference. They have Panoz Esperante GTR-1, Nissan R390 GT1, and Porsche 911 GT1's listed as GT Prototypes as opposed to GT1 cars because (I am assuming on their behalves) currently LM GT1 regulations don't fit the FIA/ACO GT1 regulations of the 1990's.

My favorites:

LMP: Audi R8, Ferrari 333SP (the later interchangable with Riley & Scott Mk II Olds or Ford -- And the '07 Porsche Spyder is creeping up on the elder statesmen of modern prototype racing.)

LMGTP: Porsche 911 GT1, Panoz Esperante GTR-1

LMGT: (LM GT1)Saleen S7-R, [LM GT(2)]Porsche 911 GT3 R(S)(R) [<-- Anything Porsche really.]

Group C: Porsche 962

Well, the McLarens did race under the GT1 flag, as did the Porsche 911 GT1, Nissan R390 GT1, Mercedes CLK-LM, Toyota GT-One (1998, in -99 they raced in the new P category), Panoz GTR-1 and so on. And actually, the GT1 of today is not that much slower.

EDIT: the GT1 category of the -90´s should not be mixed up with the GTP category, since - as you say - it would be scetchy. The "P" prevents the whole idea, since "Prototype" is not to be mistaken for the GT1 class, wich at the time had to be cars that had, IIRC, at least 25 cars produced (this rule is still used, I think). The prototypes can be one-offs and still be eligiable for Le Mans.

 

[MustangSVT]

Well, the McLarens did race under the GT1 flag, as did the Porsche 911 GT1, Nissan R390 GT1, Mercedes CLK-LM, Toyota GT-One (1998, in -99 they raced in the new P category), Panoz GTR-1 and so on. And actually, the GT1 of today is not that much slower.

Yea I was referring to the Toyota GT-One of '99 and Bentley Speed 8 for LM-GTP. And the MacF1 did race under GT1 so technically that's what it's called. The GT1 cars nowadays (550LM, S7R, C6R) are not much slower if slower at all than the older 90s GT1 cars (R390, MacF1, '94 962C)

 

[Law93]

LMP
Pescarolo C60 Hybrid 2006
Peugeot 908

LMGTP
Porsche 911 GT1
Toyota GT-ONE
Mercedes CLK LM

LMGT
Aston Martin DBR9
Corvetter C5R

Group C
Sauber Mercedes-Benz C9
Mazda 787B

 

[Jonerz]

Well, the McLarens did race under the GT1 flag, as did the Porsche 911 GT1, Nissan R390 GT1, Mercedes CLK-LM, Toyota GT-One (1998, in -99 they raced in the new P category), Panoz GTR-1 and so on. And actually, the GT1 of today is not that much slower.

EDIT: the GT1 category of the -90´s should not be mixed up with the GTP category, since - as you say - it would be scetchy. The "P" prevents the whole idea, since "Prototype" is not to be mistaken for the GT1 class, wich at the time had to be cars that had, IIRC, at least 25 cars produced (this rule is still used, I think). The prototypes can be one-offs and still be eligiable for Le Mans.

Pretty much exactly my point. At some circuits for whatever reason, the C6.R and DBR9 in their '05 and '06 forms have been putting track records set by Porsche 911 GT1, Mosler Raptor (yeah, that thing that looked like a brick was FAST) and McLaren F1 GTR to shame. On the European side of things, look at the Lister Storm. The Lister Storm in essentially the same skin in 2006 as in 1996 is still tearing up the track. However, I will reiterate my original point, significant changes on small parts of the car have had to be made to keep it legal. Also, some effort to keep the car homologation legal have had to be made by private dealers and Lister alike. Again... just because the rules are written slightly different today and homologation standards are a little stricter (in some ways) in that more cars have to be produced. However, looking at it from another point homologation standards are quite a bit more lenient, for example how the heck can one say the C6.R is based on its road going name-sake the C6? Just some food for thought fellows!

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Pretty much exactly my point. At some circuits for whatever reason, the C6.R and DBR9 in their '05 and '06 forms have been putting track records set by Porsche 911 GT1, Mosler Raptor (yeah, that thing that looked like a brick was FAST) and McLaren F1 GTR to shame. On the European side of things, look at the Lister Storm. The Lister Storm in essentially the same skin in 2006 as in 1996 is still tearing up the track. However, I will reiterate my original point, significant changes on small parts of the car have had to be made to keep it legal. Also, some effort to keep the car homologation legal have had to be made by private dealers and Lister alike. Again... just because the rules are written slightly different today and homologation standards are a little stricter (in some ways) in that more cars have to be produced. However, looking at it from another point homologation standards are quite a bit more lenient, for example how the heck can one say the C6.R is based on its road going name-sake the C6? Just some food for thought fellows!

Agreed. The GT´s of FIA GT and ALMS are merely shadowcars nowadays, allthough Chevy says that the Z06 is pretty close to the C6R, and both the Saleen S7R and the Maserati MC12 are pretty close to their roadgoing counterparts. I have to say though, that the FIA changed the rules for the Saleen to enter, and they have restricted the MC12´s aerodynamics so it wouldn´t be too overwhelming. The GT1 class is fun to watch though, they are impressive machines, and quite a few manufacturers are present - Aston Martin, Chevrolet, Lamborghini, Saleen, Ferrari, Dodge, Lister, Maserati. The GT2 class is kind of a bore, since there are only three manufacturers - Porsche, Ferrari and Spyker (Panoz in ALMS?). If you want cars that are truly close to their roadgoing counterparts, go for the FIA GT3! Linky

 

[Layla's Keeper]

Hmmm, favorites in each of those classes eh?

Well, I'll have to take some liberties but here we go.

LMP

Dallara (either Oreca/Mopar, Rollcentre, or Doran/Lista) - this car was fast enough under LMP900 rules to take on the Audi R8 head-on, and with a bit more funding probably would've taken a severe chunk out of the R8's winning record. One can only reflect on what might have been if the Chrysler Oreca effort hadn't been pulled after its incredible debut at LeMans.

(runners-up, Crawford SSC2K, Ascari A410, Lister LMP, MG EX257)

LMGTP

I have no idea what's informally meant by this class, and since to this point there's only been one car in competition classified as an LMGTP, I'll list nothing since I don't particularly care for the Bentley.

LMGT1/GTS

Oreca Dodge Viper GTS-R - lest we forget, while marvelling at the winning way of the Corvette, and how hard it's been for Aston Martin to win against the Corvette factory, remember that it was even more difficult for Corvette to slay the Mopar V10 giant. Also remember the Viper's Daytona triumph, soundly trouncing the SRP1's (Grand Am LMP900 equivalent) for overall victory before Corvette duplicated the feat.

(runners-up, Prodrive Ferrari 550GTO Maranello, Nissan 300ZX Turbo, Marcos Mantara)

LMGT2/GT

Morgan Aero 8 - while certainly not having a ridiculously successful career, one has to respect the humble and anachronistic Morgan company for taking their "modern classic" to the track against the finest sports cars in the world and having a fine go at it. While its aerodynamics are obviously unsuitable for the Mulsanne, and not even the factory works teams had the money to develop the BMW 4.0L V8 to the level of the Ferrari Modena or Porsche 911RSR's power, the car was frequently reliable and always added a dash of flair to the grid.

(runners-up, F430GT Modena, TVR Tuscan T400R, BMW M3 GTR, Spyker C8)

Group C/GTP

Nissan GTP ZXT Turbo - quite possibly the definitive example of the state-of-the-art of IMSA GTP racing, if not all of the 80's prototypes. This car was unstoppable at Daytona, the terror of Sebring, and if it'd been allowed at Le Mans, it would've cremated the field there as well (having slaughtered TWR's Jaguars, Gurney's Toyota Eagles, and the Joest Porsche 962's on native soil numerous times).

(runners-up, Lancia LC2, Chevrolet Intrepid RM1, Chevrolet Corvette GTP/Lola T86, Jaguar XJR-5)

 

[Jonerz]

Hmmm, favorites in each of those classes eh?

Well, I'll have to take some liberties but here we go.

LMP

Dallara (either Oreca/Mopar, Rollcentre, or Doran/Lista) - this car was fast enough under LMP900 rules to take on the Audi R8 head-on, and with a bit more funding probably would've taken a severe chunk out of the R8's winning record. One can only reflect on what might have been if the Chrysler Oreca effort hadn't been pulled after its incredible debut at LeMans.

(runners-up, Crawford SSC2K, Ascari A410, Lister LMP, MG EX257)

LMGTP

I have no idea what's informally meant by this class, and since to this point there's only been one car in competition classified as an LMGTP, I'll list nothing since I don't particularly care for the Bentley.

LMGT1/GTS

Oreca Dodge Viper GTS-R - lest we forget, while marvelling at the winning way of the Corvette, and how hard it's been for Aston Martin to win against the Corvette factory, remember that it was even more difficult for Corvette to slay the Mopar V10 giant. Also remember the Viper's Daytona triumph, soundly trouncing the SRP1's (Grand Am LMP900 equivalent) for overall victory before Corvette duplicated the feat.

(runners-up, Prodrive Ferrari 550GTO Maranello, Nissan 300ZX Turbo, Marcos Mantara)

LMGT2/GT

Morgan Aero 8 - while certainly not having a ridiculously successful career, one has to respect the humble and anachronistic Morgan company for taking their "modern classic" to the track against the finest sports cars in the world and having a fine go at it. While its aerodynamics are obviously unsuitable for the Mulsanne, and not even the factory works teams had the money to develop the BMW 4.0L V8 to the level of the Ferrari Modena or Porsche 911RSR's power, the car was frequently reliable and always added a dash of flair to the grid.

(runners-up, F430GT Modena, TVR Tuscan T400R, BMW M3 GTR, Spyker C8)

Group C/GTP

Nissan GTP ZXT Turbo - quite possibly the definitive example of the state-of-the-art of IMSA GTP racing, if not all of the 80's prototypes. This car was unstoppable at Daytona, the terror of Sebring, and if it'd been allowed at Le Mans, it would've cremated the field there as well (having slaughtered TWR's Jaguars, Gurney's Toyota Eagles, and the Joest Porsche 962's on native soil numerous times).

(runners-up, Lancia LC2, Chevrolet Intrepid RM1, Chevrolet Corvette GTP/Lola T86, Jaguar XJR-5)

Very good list. I especially like the choice for Group C/GTP (even though I am staunchly in the 962 camp)! Anywho... if I recall correctly the Dallara was a cousin of the R8. As I recall Dallara built the R8 and even did the work on the original LMP/LMP900 model (not to be confused with the pure Audi R8R/R8C project). If Dallara hadn't got involved with Audi who could say they would have had the success they did? Working with Dallara probably can have its effects felt today in the R10. Taking something that was as close to perfect as motor racing has seen and in the same mold going one step further. Interesting comment about the Oreca Viper. When I became a fan of ALMS it was when Corvette couldn't dream of taking out the Oreca Vipers. I recall having a conversation with my Dad somewhere along the lines of "With Oreca pulling out of GTS the class will be much better off as Corvette and the Privateers will no longer be over shadowed by this menace!" Kind of funny that Corvette soon got on a roll and have become the Viper of LM GT1. I do recall watching ALMS races at Mosport with first the BMW V12 LMR dominating closely followed by Panoz and the like and being flabbergasted by the Vipers sprinting along in the wake of what was then the quicker LMP cars (as the LMP 675 distinction hadn't been made yet, back in those days they were called SLOW). I must admit I have a couple posters of Oreca Vipers one with the White/Red/Blue paint scheme and one with the "Dodge Dealers" inspired Red. But give me a break as at that point GTS and GTS-R were my favorite cars. Today I couldn't possibly put GTS or GTS-R near my favorites list however I do reflect on the love affair with the copper-head lovingly when talking about LM GTS/1 cars. Enough about that though. Interesting choice with the Morgan. I talked to a driver at Sebring, probably the year that picture was taken. Strange, as my Dad and I were actually called over by him, to this day I don't know why... back from the dream world I must admit I don't think that would make my favorites for LM GT/2 however it is a memorable car (just like the Spyker, one of your runner-ups.) As a GTC/3 car I have to say the Morgan is right up there though... built with wood you know!

EDIT: Neglected to finish the thought about Vipers at Mosport, really unnecessary however I was also going to mention watching the new generation of LMP's kick off when Audi started beating BMW! (Modern prototype racing would never be the same!)

 

[Blood*Specter]

Guys, does anyone have a list of LMGT cars in GT6? I was thinking it was all cars with "LM Racing Car" in the name.
I'm trying to organize an LMGT on-line room. The in game car search feature is no help because it doesn't list cars by their category.

I have started searching the internet. But what I find there doesn't always match what PD did in the game.

 

[TheEnd35000vr]

Guys, does anyone have a list of LMGT cars in GT6? I was thinking it was all cars with "LM Racing Car" in the name.
I'm trying to organize an LMGT on-line room. The in game car search feature is no help because it doesn't list cars by their category.

I have started searching the internet. But what I find there doesn't always match what PD did in the game.

You just revived a thread thats been dead for 8 years. You should really ask this in the GT6 forums, not the Motorsport one. But to answer your question look at the Le Mans tab in GT6 Recommended Cars, the majority of the non-prototype cars categorise as LMGT's or successors of.

 

[Blood*Specter]

You just revived a thread thats been dead for 8 years. You should really ask this in the GT6 forums, not the Motorsport one. But to answer your question look at the Le Mans tab in GT6 Recommended Cars, the majority of the non-prototype cars categorise as LMGT's or successors of.

Thank you 35000vr for the help. My bad about the shelf life of topic. I didn't notice it being blocked. But still, the game does not definitivly define which cars are LMGT. For the record, I did see the GT6 Q&A thread and asked my question there.