Your opinion on assists

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Your opnion on assists?

  • ABS- fine with it

    Votes: 27 33.3%
  • ABS- OMG, what a ****ing noob!

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • TCS- fine with it

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • TCS- Slow noob is slow -_-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ASM- fine with it

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • ASM- Yet another slow noob...

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • SRF- fine with it

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • SRF- utter noob...the noobiest of the noobs

    Votes: 21 25.9%
  • Driving line- fine with it

    Votes: 5 6.2%
  • Driving line- this isn't slot car...noob

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Automatic trans.- fine with it

    Votes: 5 6.2%
  • Automatic trans.- LEARN2SHIFT NOOB!

    Votes: 10 12.3%

  • Total voters
    81
Well..."need"...I think it's still a game and I'm having fun with TCS / ABS on 1 and sometimes even SRF and ASM on. I don't have to fire up the PS3 if I want to have fun "for real" - I'll just drive in my own car and visit one of the tracks around here. ;)

this is my first driving simulator.
Keep in mind the closest i've gotten to a real racing game is Tokyo Extreme Racer Zero and Auto Modelista...

I needed those assists. I was so terrible starting out that I even had trouble keeping my first Mini on the track.
 
I tend to agree. I don't think any of us started playing the GT series with all the assists off. Me personally, it depends on how I am playing.
Currently, I've only played GT5 with the DS3, and as much as I'd like a G27, I'm not spending $300 on a wheel just yet when I still have my old DFP (I think?) Wheel from GT4...so I tend to keep TC on low (1-2) for most situations (off for rallye), and ABS on 1 on pretty much everything.
With GT4 and my DF wheel I would usually turn either just ABS or both of them off.
 
I don't really give a **** what people use or don't use.

This.

I personally don't use any assists, but when my Wife plays, she turns on the driving line because she doesn't know the tracks very well. I think you play it how you want to, and if the "elitist" don't like it, tell them to go eat one. I think that some of the snobs think they can tell people how to play, but they should just do everybody a favor and shut up. Think of it like this, say you went to the grocery and bought a chicken for dinner...shouldn't you be able to cook it anyway you want to. Honestly, is there a "proper way" to do it? I could just fall on the floor and scoot like a dog every time I hear "just play the game the proper way." Ugh.
 
@seismica

Actually since 1.06 update you can't turn off ABS in NASCAR events, so now they're almost impossible to Gold!

Oh the joys of not having an online connection for my PS3 :D I managed to gold them on my first save with ABS/ASM on, but on my second save I turned it off and it made those events 10x easier. It really is unnecessary as it means the AI can actually keep their speed up on the banked turns, whereas yours drops dramatically, you can barely keep up even with a toe from the other cars.

I'm going to pay for it when it comes to the Vettel challenge though, no adjustable steering sensitivity for me... :indiff:
 
ABS: I don't really care, I also use it on some cars though I don't on race cars.

TCS: Don't mind, as it is a real life system and doesn't make you any faster, I also use it sparingly on wet tracks.

ASM: Real life system, slows your car down, so don't care.

Driving Line: Don't mind it if you're learning the track.

Auto Trans: Don't mind it as I know some very good drivers who still use it, and I also use it occasionally for fun.

BUT SRF:
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You're the noobiest of noobs if you even consider using that abomination of a "driving aid":dunce: Although I'll admit to using it for the Loeb and Vettel challenges
 
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I play GT5 for my own enjoyment, and I enjoy it best as a challenge. Maybe it's because I was introduced to real racing games with Papyrus' early catalogue, which are of course the fore-runners of iRacing.

I agree that people can use whatever they want to get the enjoyment out of the game. This includes SRF, something I don't personally understand. I should probably test it out sometime. I am worried that certain events and licences now dictate the use of SRF - again, I should test it out.

I also agree that ASM is a nightmare if you're driving near the limit (i.e. racing) because it uses the brakes and tends to bog the car down as you attempt to (four-wheel) drift onto the apex.

TCS, for me, is next-to-useless in that it's totally binary - i.e. by either allowing longitudinal slip or not, with the slider seemingly adjusting how much the TCS accounts for lateral slip (that is, TCS on 1 kills all slip in a straight line, but the moment you turn the wheel the car is off!) Inconsistent and unreliable are two things I can do without when trying to be consistent and reliable in a race.
Entertainingly, I found turning TCS off allowed me to be so much faster on the SLS AMG wet challenges, where you could spin the tyres up, get some heat into them, allowing less slip and so more acceleration out of corners - this is useful because the tyres cool down again so quickly.

The driving line is neither here nor there. I've tended only to "peek" at it for licence tests in the past (GT3) but don't really need it now I'm more experienced. At least, I like finding my own sets of lines through corners ("wrong" or "right"), and technically in a race the best line is always changing anyway due to obstacles and changing conditions (inc. tyres), which is something I'm quite good at adapting to, probably because I learned without the driving line.

I also race without ABS, however this can be a liability online. This is largely due the tendency for braking distances to be massively increased, itself due mostly to the difficulty in trail braking without ABS vs. with it (note that Porsches tend to only really activate the ABS when the car is yawing and braking, whilst DC2 Integra Type Rs seem to adaptively allow the wheels to lock momentarily before the ABS kicks in, both of which GT5 doesn't cover and both of which were intended to allow for better controllability at the limit.)
I mostly love the ability to turn the car on the brakes and turning off ABS really opens this up, however this extra speed at the apex is often negated by the increased braking distance, and I often find people climbing up my chuff in braking zones online, so resulting in a punt or three.

Finally, I use H-pattern for most things because it's more involving. This is yet another liability online, as I occasionally mis-shift on the straights or, more commonly, in the braking zones leaving me floating on the apex fishing for a gear, often leading to more punting. It's fun racing against other people who use the same settings as I do, since the extra controllability and reliance on fine control in the braking areas makes for close, heated yet gentlemanly racing, because you respect each other's space more.

EDIT: oops, essay is well over the word-limit. Sorry! :p
 
Me:
ABS- ABS is set to 1 for me. For old cars with no ABS I set NO ABS obviously :)
ASM- lol, no thanks.. it would be ok for last generation ferrari with all its gadgets, but still big "no" for me!
Driving line- don't really care.. it helps when my girlfriend is driving 👍
TCS- not fun, not cool, and its very slow.. so big "no" for me!
SRF- This is the sad part of GT.. but it says "3+" on the cover, so I understand (physics are spoiled, this thing doesn't exist in real life) for me "never"
Automatic transmission (A/T)- On SixAxis it's Ok to use Automatic, On a Wheel (DFGT,G25,G27 etc. its way better and more fun with "manual"). Since I buyed DFGT this week, manual for me it is now.. 👍

anyway my opinion on diving aids is -it spoils the fun and all features GT have in physics are restricted by some assists.. what a waste.. 💡
 
If you are new to Gran Turismo using assists at the beginning then weening yourself off them is acceptable. Once you really get into the game I think you need stay away from them (excluding ABS 1). Keeping assists on disguises the character of the car you're driving.
 
I like to use the driving line with new cars to get an idea what I can get away with and then improve lap times with it off
 
If the car in natural have No TCS or ABS.

Off them will get better handling. Like F10, F2007, SuperGT (JGTC) cars.

But some car when you off them, they will get Crazy . Like FormulaGT
 
I think it's a video game and if you paid for it, you should use what ever assists make it fun for you. And anyone who calls another person a noob for enjoying a game their way is missing the point of playing a GAME. :dopey:
 
I like assists, they make me appear much better than I really am and that's fine by me.:)
 
I like assists, they make me appear much better than I really am and that's fine by me.:)

Right? I love hearing the elitists whine after I beat them with some assists when they use none. They're so sensitive about everyone playing their way.:p
 
Some of my less nerdy friends tend to want to have some assists on when racing online. Not a problem for me at all, they get up to a pace that's closer to mine and we all enjoy the races more.

I don't tend to think that I lost because someone else cheated by using SRF, ABS, TCS or what have you. If the host has it enabled, it's up to each and every one if they want, or need it.

I try to use a few assists as I can but some cars (Maxed out R92CP pops to mind instantly, insanity) almost requires me to use TCS in order to just keep the car on track. But letting others chose what assists they think they need is a-okey. I don't join a host and start asking for assists to be restricted, I pick a different host. Organized races is a completely different story but for everyday fun I just tend to ignore what others are or are not using and focus on my own driving instead. :)
 
I use ABS on 1 an nothing else.

But in powerful cars like Audi R10, 787b, i use TCS on 1, i dont like tcs on less powrful car because in general it makes you slower, and its boring.
 
ABS- Fine
TC- Fine, except drag races ( I never use it though)
ASM- Okay but it's better to have it off
SRF- NO, except for certain Special Events
Auto- Fine, cars are usually slower in the corners though.
 
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