Z32...R34 swap, is it really possible ??

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if I had the money, I would try to put a F22C engine inside my 240sx. Because the SR20 engine is too damn popular, as much I am a fan of Nissan though I believe that the F22C is more reliable than the SR20. ( It maybe the F20C...I am going to look for that article again)

Kick ass dude if I wanted to save up I'll probably go S13..man I remember the first time I heard of those my homeboy just hauls down my block, red body on black rims complete with spoiler pop up lights always up. It reminded me of a Ferrari dude..S13s are naturally some of the best drifters I guess

Like what dude said earlier, keep your whip clean/stock inside, not like a carnival or circus. Man that 240 was just like that, black leather, comfy as heck. I'll always go Nismo dude, they're all phenomenal !!
 
Kick ass dude if I wanted to save up I'll probably go S13..man I remember the first time I heard of those my homeboy just hauls down my block, red body on black rims complete with spoiler pop up lights always up. It reminded me of a Ferrari dude..S13s are naturally some of the best drifters I guess

Like what dude said earlier, keep your whip clean/stock inside, not like a carnival or circus. Man that 240 was just like that, black leather, comfy as heck. I'll always go Nismo dude, they're all phenomenal !!
I am trying to do that though the KA does have its small common problems that I have been reluctant to fix. a Red 240sx is over done. Metallic Black for me but for now its going to be Faded black. At least I have one color instead of two or three.
 
Oh wow. You talk big, but don't actually know jack it looks like.

The fact that you go "WTF, fast FWD Honda?" Refered to the ATTESA system in the R34 as 4WD, and want to know the complexities of using a different engine and drivetrain system in your Z32 is just, well, fantasy land stuff.

The VQ is a solid power plant, stick with it. There is no real benefit besides the "JDM" factor, much like converting a car to RHD. Speaking of which, imported Japanese cars have several differences besides where the steering wheel is that present issues. Safety equipment and emissions being key. Lighting is also an issue.

Before come in here, asking a fantasy swap question, then claiming you know your stuff and getting all huffy, just think a bit. Thinking goes a long way.
 
It's only safer if you're a mailman.
:lol: USDM Jeeps FTW!

Again, if it's girls you want: Clean car. Good paint. Nice interior (preferably leather) and a good sound system. ;)
...and a fully operational air conditioning, if you live in Florida.

For all the stupid amounts of money involved in converting a car to right-hand drive, swapping a motor that you cannot easily get your hands on (in Florida), and difficult to get parts for, and the machine-shop nightmares thereof in creating a four-wheel-drive drivetrain, you could buy a reasonably-priced new car.

Nevermind the insurance hassles for a 14-to-17-year-old in a sports-car, or the baffled look you're going to get from the insurance company if you do anything more than cosmetic sheetmetal damage. With all that work, you'll be spending more time in a Tri-Rail seat than in your dream machine on I-95.

This isn't a game: If you do not have very close connections to a crack team of specialists and mechanics willing to stop everything and help you with this project car, you're going to spend a lot of money and time on a pipe dream, rather than having a hunny in your front passenger seat.

Ladies rarely care about the obsessive details of your car, unless they can turn a wrench. All that they care is that it runs and gets you to a job and back, and can reliably take them on a night on the town.

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Refered to the ATTESA system in the R34 as 4WD, and want to know the complexities of using a different engine and drivetrain system in your Z32 is just, well, fantasy land stuff.

Again, I already said I never tuned crap. Only in the GT series, which taught me a lot, somewhat. GT4 was incorrect, when it said the Skyline drivetrain is a 4WD. That's just rally, now I know, thanks
 
Again, I already said I never tuned crap. Only in the GT series, which taught me a lot, somewhat. GT4 was incorrect, when it said the Skyline drivetrain is a 4WD. That's just rally, now I know, thanks

Umm, still wrong. Off road here is more pertaining to, say, Jeeps and the likes.

And you should know GT has a lot of mistakes, from gear ratios to model years...
 
Ya dude, I can only imagine what mistakes brings us into GT5. They're planning to get ALL those cars ?? Old and new ?? Inside & out ?? Those old interiors/gauges should have some mistakes, but they work hard to get that done, wow the new game is gonna be PACKED

C'mon, Subarus ?? Those things can be considered 4WD and AWD
 
[offtopic]The SR20 versus the F20? There have been some minor oiling issues with the F20, worrying, especially considering it's a high revver.

I guess we'll never know which one is better, because the F20 was never offered in forced induction form, and Honda was never required to consider forced induction needs for it.

Nissan, on the other hand, overbuilt the SR20 to hell. Even your non-turbo SR20 has the forged internals to take a good amount of turbocharging. And that's offered in almost everything... Sentras, G20s, Japanese vans, etcetera... giving you a ton of sources for swap parts and spares. The F20, on the other hand, is only in the S2000, and parts are $$$. An SR20DET can hold between 400-500 hp (rumors of 600 hp from some tuners abound) on the stock bottom end. That's stock pistons, con-rods, crankshaft, etcetera. Replace the pistons and con-rods, and the crankshaft and aluminum block can hold up to 1000 hp. Even in non-dyno-queen street tunes, 400-500 hp (with built internals) SR20s are quite common.

And if it's high revving action you want, there's the SR20VE, which revs to kingdom come and makes 200 horses without a turbo. Granted, that's not as much as the F20, but it shows that the SR20 isn't just a one-trick pony. Good luck on the wiring for the 240, though... the VE was a front-drive engine, so the ECU may noot match up.

The only issues for SRs is how well Nissan's transmissions (typically crappy, like most Japanese trannies are) can hold up to the big power (mine broke a CV Joint on the dragstrip, and that was non-turbo) and oil starvation at high lateral Gs, especially if the oil pan is dented (a real issue if your motor came off the boat from Japan)... so you have to watch your oil temps on track. But oil starvation is a common problem for many street motors on the racetrack, and, as I've said, the F20 isn't immune.

It's a nifty engine, mind you, and the amount of horses Honda squeezed out of it are fantastic... and it can handle maybe 500-600 horses (with a built bottom end... the stock compression would give you a grenade under the hood if you tried to turbocharge it that much). But a lot of people swap SR20s into other cars for a reason: Easy power. They're everywhere. RX7s (an aluminum block SR20 actually isn't all that much heavier than a rotary), old Corollas, a 350Z (!!!... drift car, I believe...)... there's even S2000s with SR20s.

The only way to get more performance potential than an SR20DET in a 240 with a Japanese 2 liter mill is with the 4G63. Good luck finding a Mitsubishi rear-drive tranny that'll take the power, though. :lol: Otherwise, you can go VQ or even do the funky V8 swap... or even an RB-engine... which fits perfectly into the 240 with little issue (you have to cut some off the front for clearance) and has more torque than an SR20DET.[/off-topic]

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@mistamista: I still don't get where the FWD sucks argument came from. Nobody in this thread mentioned it before you. And nobody mentioned Civcs, either.

A FWD car has one problem and one problem only. It can't steer and accelerate at the same time without some form of understeer or traction loss. Otherwise, they're perfectly fine.

In a straight line, a FWD dragster can (with incredibly expensive mods) match the best AWD dragsters. Neither car is in the big leagues when it comes to drag racing. FWD doesn't have the traction of RWD (yes, they can get close, spec for spec, but the top professional echelons are all RWD) and AWD is too heavy.

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If you really don't know anything about tuning or car-buying for that matter, repeat after me. Save up your money. Buy the car you want. Spend the next few months polishing out the dings, scrapes and whatnot. Buy new tires. Change out the old stereo for something that can play MP3s. Repair everything that needs repairing. Oh, and Pupik makes a good point. Girls love airconditioning.

Bad typing overload...ERROR! :sick:

No kidding.
 
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Ya..FF cars are wak, only good for massive modding..and WTF !! I ain't no mistamista !! I'm mistaMONTIEL !! :dopey:
 
Also, RHD can be very "impressive" in places like parking hall exits and McDonald's drive-thrus...
I'm sorry, I just literally LOL'd. :lol:

Honestly having a RHD here in the US is just asking for severe FAIL.
 
Ya..FF cars are wak, only good for massive modding..and WTF !! I ain't no mistamista !! I'm mistaMONTIEL !! :dopey:

Where are you getting this stuff? Could you at least try to put some sort of reasoning behind what you decide to say is fact?
 
Why would you put an R34 drivetrain in a Z32? You could get heaps more power out of a Ford 302 and then you could actually do a burnout.
 
I just need input dude, people should read my whole post so they know I'm NOT hating a Skyline. Who the hell can do that ?? Probably ugly box on wheels Mustang fanatics

INSTA-FAIL

There are fans of any kid of car, no matter the branding, that make accusations on baseless generalizations. Looks like you're no better than the "ugly box on wheels Mustang fanatics." Do yourself a favor and take a moment to learn about the cars before you start rambling off about them.

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Aye, All I noticed from the start was that he kept changing the subject with each post he made and rambled about something completely off topic in each one.
 
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But its fun!

Perhaps we're doing a service by learnin' him some knowledge?

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And it would sound better.

V6s Turbos tend to sound like tractors. Especially low RPM turbo V6s.

Fixed. Besides the RB is a straight-six. And Nissan turbocharged engines tend to rev up to 7000 or more rpms. The RB26, in particular, will do 8000. :D

Threadlock in when?
 
[offtopic]The SR20 versus the F20? There have been some minor oiling issues with the F20, worrying, especially considering it's a high revver.

I guess we'll never know which one is better, because the F20 was never offered in forced induction form, and Honda was never required to consider forced induction needs for it.

Nissan, on the other hand, overbuilt the SR20 to hell. Even your non-turbo SR20 has the forged internals to take a good amount of turbocharging. And that's offered in almost everything... Sentras, G20s, Japanese vans, etcetera... giving you a ton of sources for swap parts and spares. The F20, on the other hand, is only in the S2000, and parts are $$$. An SR20DET can hold between 400-500 hp (rumors of 600 hp from some tuners abound) on the stock bottom end. That's stock pistons, con-rods, crankshaft, etcetera. Replace the pistons and con-rods, and the crankshaft and aluminum block can hold up to 1000 hp. Even in non-dyno-queen street tunes, 400-500 hp (with built internals) SR20s are quite common.

And if it's high revving action you want, there's the SR20VE, which revs to kingdom come and makes 200 horses without a turbo. Granted, that's not as much as the F20, but it shows that the SR20 isn't just a one-trick pony. Good luck on the wiring for the 240, though... the VE was a front-drive engine, so the ECU may noot match up.

The only issues for SRs is how well Nissan's transmissions (typically crappy, like most Japanese trannies are) can hold up to the big power (mine broke a CV Joint on the dragstrip, and that was non-turbo) and oil starvation at high lateral Gs, especially if the oil pan is dented (a real issue if your motor came off the boat from Japan)... so you have to watch your oil temps on track. But oil starvation is a common problem for many street motors on the racetrack, and, as I've said, the F20 isn't immune.

It's a nifty engine, mind you, and the amount of horses Honda squeezed out of it are fantastic... and it can handle maybe 500-600 horses (with a built bottom end... the stock compression would give you a grenade under the hood if you tried to turbocharge it that much). But a lot of people swap SR20s into other cars for a reason: Easy power. They're everywhere. RX7s (an aluminum block SR20 actually isn't all that much heavier than a rotary), old Corollas, a 350Z (!!!... drift car, I believe...)... there's even S2000s with SR20s.

The only way to get more performance potential than an SR20DET in a 240 with a Japanese 2 liter mill is with the 4G63. Good luck finding a Mitsubishi rear-drive tranny that'll take the power, though. :lol: Otherwise, you can go VQ or even do the funky V8 swap... or even an RB-engine... which fits perfectly into the 240 with little issue (you have to cut some off the front for clearance) and has more torque than an SR20DET.[/off-topic]
Thanks for the info. 👍
 
I just need input dude, people should read my whole post so they know I'm NOT hating a Skyline. Who the hell can do that ?? Probably ugly box on wheels Mustang fanatics

Still doesn't answer my question..can a front wheel drive be really that fast ?? 1000 horses ?? Or do they change the drivetrain as well ??
Yes, they can. It's just getting off the line they have problems with. 1,000 horses is a bit far, but there are plenty of amazing FWD cars. Our local tuning company already has produced 2 600Hp+ Scion tC's, and several Civic dragsters.
 
Why would you? You would get practically zero power benefits from the swap, and heaven help you to get the transmission/transaxle to work in a RWD car.
The VG30DETT makes around 300 hp, but the R34 V-spec II engine made in the neighborhood of 350 hp. Still, the GT-R's engine is probably a lot heavier, and it would be VERY expensive to put the RB26DETT in. It would be easier just to put, say, a bigger turbo on the Z's engine for a lot less than to put the Skyline engine in.
 
Have you ever looked in Z32 engine bay? They're overcramped they had to use piddily little intercoolers for each turbo. Also have seen a completely snapped conrod off a VG30 twin turbo motor and this was lightly tuned. The troll needs to wake up as doing an engine swap is usally expensive and fraught with challenges, especially in regard to wiring and making the complex systems work, a standard 300ZX non-turbo is still pretty quick and can hold up with a turboed one till about 80kph, in fact im on the hunt for one right now, a 300ZX non turbo manual preferably in red no autos
 
Have you ever looked in Z32 engine bay? They're overcramped they had to use piddily little intercoolers for each turbo. Also have seen a completely snapped conrod off a VG30 twin turbo motor and this was lightly tuned. The troll needs to wake up as doing an engine swap is usally expensive and fraught with challenges, especially in regard to wiring and making the complex systems work, a standard 300ZX non-turbo is still pretty quick and can hold up with a turboed one till about 80kph, in fact im on the hunt for one right now, a 300ZX non turbo manual preferably in red no autos
Good luck on the hunt.
 
I have seen 300ZX's engine bay.. and I have to say that you need 10 years old kids hands if you intend to do anything. that engine bay is in my top ten of cramped engine bays..
 
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