ZR1 to set back brits £109k

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You can imagine the excitement that awaits the Europeans when the find out the U.S. pricing for the Corvette ZR1 starts at a reasonable $103,300, a quick check on the exchange rate would work out at just over €71K or £56K. Therefore you can equally imagine the horror to find out that the poor British are going to have to stump up a gut wrenching on-the-road price of £109K (around $200K).

This price could increase even further as dealerships look to capitalize on the exclusiveness of the model, General Motors will allow just two examples to hit the streets in 2008 with 2009 figures limited to single digits.

Exclusive but expensive. Not sure I would want to spend that much on the vette when I could buy a lambo or something instead.
 
Wouldn't it have made more sense to post this in the Corvette ZR1 thread, and perhaps combine the two SEAT threads?
 
Wouldn't it have made more sense to post this in the Corvette ZR1 thread, and perhaps combine the two SEAT threads?

why should I combine a thread about two different cars?

And yes perhaps I could have but forgot that thread existed
 
Agreed, I can't imagine anyone wanting a £100k+ Corvette. Will they even bother making it RHD, that's arguably the very least they could do for that price. I wonder if it comes with a free house, it'd look like good value then. They can tout the "exclusive" line all they want, but at the end of the day it's still a Corvette, a pretty unexclusive model lineup. To sell a car based on exclusiness for over £100k pretty much demands proper exclusiveness, not an exclusive version of an inexclusive model lineup. Nothing about this car firs the price, if all you want is performance it's beat, if you want exclusivness, it's beat, if you want image it's beat, if you want practicality it's beat, for that price the car jus tmakes zero sense. I'm really trying to like the C6, I respect what the cars are capable of, but the prices they sell over here just don't make sense.
 
Fair trade, then...we get the R8 with an inflated pricetag, you get the ZR1 with one. Such is the pain of living across an ocean.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the R8 starts at $109k USD doesn't it? If that's the case then that means the R8 is cheaper in the US than it is over here. It certainly isn't twice the price.
 
Will they even bother making it RHD, that's arguably the very least they could do for that price.

The current iteration of the Y-Body chassis wasn't designed for it, so you'll have to wait for the C7 to get a crack at that.

Either way, its still at bargain-basement prices for what it will end up competing against...
 
No, it's not. It offers neither the presitgue or quality of cars in that price range. The only thing I can tell that this may have on some cars in that price is track performance. And we don't even full know what it's really capable of yet or it's soon to be rivals from the likes of Porsche, which will be cheaper. It's definitely not bargain basement, it's more like seeing No Frills food selling for more than M&S food. If you only concern and I mean only concern is outright track performance then maybe, but for £100K+ track performance is rarely the only factor and if it is I can show you faster cars for less than £100k.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the R8 starts at $109k USD doesn't it? If that's the case then that means the R8 is cheaper in the US than it is over here. It certainly isn't twice the price.

$111,000, But you also must remember that the Porsche Carrera S starts at around $70K in the same market. The exchange rate regarding cars between the UK and US isn't the official exchange rate: for some reason, the carmakers think the Pound Sterling is overvalued.

I mean, what's a basic, inexpensive car over there? 13K? That's about what it runs over here (Number-wise)...and ours are a little bigger.
 
No, it's not. It offers neither the presitgue or quality of cars in that price range. The only thing I can tell that this may have on some cars in that price is track performance. And we don't even full know what it's really capable of yet or it's soon to be rivals from the likes of Porsche, which will be cheaper. It's definitely not bargain basement, it's more like seeing No Frills food selling for more than M&S food. If you only concern and I mean only concern is outright track performance then maybe, but for £100K+ track performance is rarely the only factor and if it is I can show you faster cars for less than £100k.

I'm sick of people (by which I mean the comments on TopGear videos I occasionally watch on YouTube) jabbering on and on about how special the C6 Z06 is. Like the car is The Little Engine That Could, just happened to enter the league of supercars and began putting up a fight. Didn't GM put just as much time and money into the r&d of this car as any of its competitors?
 
If you only concern and I mean only concern is outright track performance then maybe, but for £100K+ track performance is rarely the only factor and if it is I can show you faster cars for less than £100k.

Such as;

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With change for a standard 911 to drive home in. I know which Id rather have.
 
Such as;

*Atom*

With change for a standard 911 to drive home in. I know which Id rather have.

Me too. An Atom at £30k, a Cayman S for my Porsche fix at £45k, and with the remaining £32k from the price of that ZR1 in the UK, I'd find an E30 M3, an immaculate Lotus Elise S1, and a second-hand MINI Cooper for around town. All would be RHD (apart from maybe the M3...). And the rest I'd spend on insurance :D

And each of those cars is the reason the ZR1 goes from a very impressive car to a complete joke, at that price.
 
It offers neither the presitgue or quality of cars in that price range. The only thing I can tell that this may have on some cars in that price is track performance. And we don't even full know what it's really capable of yet or it's soon to be rivals from the likes of Porsche, which will be cheaper. It's definitely not bargain basement, it's more like seeing No Frills food selling for more than M&S food.
You contradicted yourself half a dozen times in there.
 
How so, I've re-read it and it seems pretty clear to me that I was saying the only thing the ZR1 might have over certain other cars in that price range is track performance but even that could change fairly soon.

I'm sick of people (by which I mean the comments on TopGear videos I occasionally watch on YouTube) jabbering on and on about how special the C6 Z06 is.
Great, because I'm not jabbering on about how special it is.

Like the car is The Little Engine That Could, just happened to enter the league of supercars and began putting up a fight.
Now your getting confusing, who's saying anything about the Corvette just beginning to put up a fight, and a fight for what. No one is mentioning a fight or the Corvette just entering the league of supercars, though I can see why people would argue that it has no one actually is.

Didn't GM put just as much time and money into the r&d of this car as any of its competitors?
Maybe, maybe more, maybe less, I don't know but nothing I said reflects on GM's R&D. I like the C6, it's just I like it at the US prices not the European ones. In the US it's a performance bargain and at the same time a national icon, in Europe it's neither a bargain nor an icon, it's not that every model is vastly overpriced, the base C6 for example can be had for £50k, it's just that there are a lot of cars to choose from that offer either the same performance bracket and are better known. The fact is that I can get a faster and more iconic car over here for less than the C6. No one is saying the Corvette is a bad car, certainly not me. I am however saying that at that price, GM are obviousely not at all interested in trying to get people into the Corvette brand over here because there's plenty of cars and brands that are more iconic in Europe for the same prices or less.

I'm someone that likes the C6, but give me £50k for a thrash about car that I can drive daily and the C6 wouldn't get a look in, let's got £15k higher to the Z06 price range and same again, then we go to this car at over £100k and same again. If the prices were better I would be lying if I said I wouldn't be interested given I was in the market for a car like it. The lhd drive puts me off regardless but that might be something they sort out in future models. So, can you accept this view or does it offend you to hear that the Corvette isn't much of an icon outside of the US.
 
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So how much does a Callaway C16 from the great state of connecticuit cost in the UK?

That car is on a different level than the ZR-1 if you ask me
 
So how much does a Callaway C16 from the great state of connecticuit cost in the UK?

That car is on a different level than the ZR-1 if you ask me
We don't get them over here, but it'd probably be cheaper to buy on in the US and ship it over. It'd be cheaper to buy a ZR1 and ship that over. Actually, since rhd is out of the question that wouldn't be a bad idea if you were genuinely interested in a car like the ZR1. Though re-sale value would be affected you'd make a huge saving on the initial purchase.
 
How so, I've re-read it and it seems pretty clear to me that I was saying the only thing the ZR1 might have over certain other cars in that price range is track performance but even that could change fairly soon.
"We don't know what it will bring to the table, but despite this I know it won't be as good as its price competitors."
 
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Only I didn't say that did I. Nice and inaccurate us of quotes.

When I said we don't really know what it's capable of I was referring to the track performance, which unless I've missed some US articles we don't. But I still suspect that is it's trump card and the one area where it will better that some of it's rivals.
 
Only I didn't say that did I. Nice and inaccurate us of quotes.
It's called paraphrasing. You said it won't offer the quality of its rival in the price range, when we don't actually know if that will be the case.
 
Like I said, when I said we don't fully know what it's capable of I was referring to and only to the track performance. I never made that comment regarding any other aspect of the car, I have made that clear twice now. If you want to debate something pick something that I actually said.
 
I'm not jabbering on about how special it is.

I didn't mean to direct that comment at you, I meant that American car enthusiasts have this patriotic, romanticized view of the Corvette. They love to talk about how brilliant the car is and I don't think it's nearly as special as they make it out to be.

PrivatePoop? :odd:

It's from an episode of Invader Zim, Gir is watching "Intestines of War" and one of the charactrs mentioned in the credits is Private Poop as himself.
 
Dave A
Like I said, when I said we don't fully know what it's capable of I was referring to and only to the track performance. I never made that comment regarding any other aspect of the car, I have made that clear twice now.
No, it's not. It offers neither the presitgue or quality of cars in that price range.
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I didn't say I didn't know what it was capable of there though did I? I have seen the interior of one and it's no Ferrari. As for prestige well there's no point in even trying to debate if the Corvette is more presitgous here than Porsche and Ferrari and co.
 
£109K?
Dave A, do think you could compile some sort of list of cars available at that price (or thereabouts) for comparison? Would be nice to see what the Vette is taking on, pricewise.
 
I didn't say I didn't know what it was capable of there though did I? I have seen the interior of one and it's no Ferrari. As for prestige well there's no point in even trying to debate if the Corvette is more presitgous here than Porsche and Ferrari and co.

How have you seen the interior of a ZR1? Are they even for sale yet it Britain, let alone common enough to see?
 

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