B-Spec Expert Historic Car Cup Help ?

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It's a joke that B-spec drivers have no grasp of racing whatsoever. They're just following a driving line. They don't understand the concept of drafting, passing, fighting for position, late breaking, holding inside lines, and most definitely driving around ovals.
 
Only took me 2 tries on cote. The first one he won by over 9 seconds but cote he needed constant babysitting. Tell him to slow the pace when he is on the back straight so he doesn't hit the wall, then spam pace up and overtake until the back straight again. I had a hard time on that one in a spec though. I do not like driving that Toyota.
 
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Got this one with Lvl. 19 Bob and a Toyota, with the medium turbo upgrade, works better with more torque, than the less controllable high end turbo.
+ LSD and Tranny adjustments
I used max downforce

(From this Board)
Initial Torque: 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 55
Braking Sensitivity: 40

Same here with slight changes.
I used the Toyota7 prize car.
My driver was level 18.
Stage2 turbo and max speed 252 IIRC. The lower gears are less prone to cause wheelspin and you begin to accellerate sooner.
LSD was more like 12/30/8 to get more rotation off throttle.
Brakes were set more to the rear and rear suspension was stiffer than the front.

The key is to pace down and stay out of the upper red zone.
Pass only after last corner and right after the last chicane.
Keep pace when in the middle of red/blue otherwise.

This was a race where I needed to give the driver constant instructions.
 
Chaparral 2J maxed out and with the gearbox set to max acceleration and lowest top speed.

I won by 30 seconds or more.
 
I have to confess I used my B-day gift exploit P4 and let Bob walked the field with that after failing to clinch in an old Alfa GTA. He was close in the Alfa and nabbed 2nd at the end just behind the Europa but it was too late when he got to that car. After stuck behind the 2nd place Elan for 2 lap....

he made a good race out of it though...
 
Forgot about this thread. The Toyota 7 ended up working for me. It's the prize car for the spec B Like the Wind event for the person that asked.
 
The Toyota 7 is the best choice as you can get it without spending a ton of credits, or wait for the Jag fromt he Indy 500 A-Spec.

I would think the 2J is actually the best car for the race as I still have not been able to beat him in B-Spec even with the Toyota 7 if the 2J gets to the front it stays there. Bob entered it several times and finally got a lineup where there was only one 2J and it was behind him. Then he was able to win the race.

I did it quite easy with the Toyota 7 myself.
 
Well i tried the setups and advice everybody else posted. But i had no luck after a few tries.

So i went ahead and tried using the 2J with a stage 3 turbo with medium race tires. Only other thing is that you need to drop max speed to 155mph

Bob was in first within the 2nd lap. And finished the race with a 40+second gap between Bob and the 2J in second place. By the final lap Bob was starting to lap the others.

My bpec is lvl 21 with a slightly cool attitude. I pressed pace up the whole way through the race and he never hit the wall after the tunnel once. In the toyota 7 he would hit that wall all the time.

Hope this helps some of you.
 
Well i tried the setups and advice everybody else posted. But i had no luck after a few tries.

So i went ahead and tried using the 2J with a stage 3 turbo with medium race tires. Only other thing is that you need to drop max speed to 155mph

Bob was in first within the 2nd lap. And finished the race with a 40+second gap between Bob and the 2J in second place. By the final lap Bob was starting to lap the others.

My bpec is lvl 21 with a slightly cool attitude. I pressed pace up the whole way through the race and he never hit the wall after the tunnel once. In the toyota 7 he would hit that wall all the time.

Hope this helps some of you.
 
Well i tried the setups and advice everybody else posted. But i had no luck after a few tries.

So i went ahead and tried using the 2J with a stage 3 turbo with medium race tires. Only other thing is that you need to drop max speed to 155mph

Bob was in first within the 2nd lap. And finished the race with a 40+second gap between Bob and the 2J in second place. By the final lap Bob was starting to lap the others.

My bpec is lvl 21 with a slightly cool attitude. I pressed pace up the whole way through the race and he never hit the wall after the tunnel once. In the toyota 7 he would hit that wall all the time.

Hope this helps some of you.

Hi. I've only got the toyota to try it with. Given up really. Would you consider lending me the 2J for that race and I'll send it straight back. I'd give you any car you want from my list. Let us know if you wouldn't mind.
 
won this with the 330
max speed at 290
full downforce
and LSD:15/45/25

full babysitting though and a beautiful and tight race with that toyota
tip: even though the race lineup was quite tought(p1 2j, p2 toyota) try not haveing them in first row

gl
 
Still struggling with this poxy race. Tried with the Toyota 7 and the Ferrari with the setups stated. Bob is at level 23. Any other set ups/ideas?
 
Still struggling with this poxy race. Tried with the Toyota 7 and the Ferrari with the setups stated. Bob is at level 23. Any other set ups/ideas?

I posted this is another thread, but I figured I'd put it here too. After all the recommendations I've found about this race, here's what I've got.

Getting the Toyota 7
1)Race Into The Wind on A spec with a Zonda or Furai (One I used) to win the MINOLTA
2)Use the MINOLTA to win B Spec Bob the Toyota 7.
3)Upgrade the Toyota 7 with rigidity turbo and tires.

It took me 6 tries before I got it with U.Furst B-Spec Bob. I tried all of your settings and they worked well, make sure you're racing with RACING MEDIUMS. After race 4 I realized that I had still been using racing hard and he wouldn't push very hard in the corners.

The chicane is really the hardest part in the course. I was spamming pace up and overtake until I got to the TIGHT left hand turn (usually taken around 19-25 mph). As soon as I hit that turn I hit pace down twice. If your pace is too hot coming into the chicane you'll lose it. By pacing down at that point you won't be higher than 75% and maybe as low a 50%. The only other place that gives problems is the mini chicane right before the straight. Just make sure you're not over 80ish% going into that and you won't clip it.

I was able to get in 1st place by lap 4 with level 21 U.Furst (I was name hunting, this one caught my eye :) ). You'll make all major passes on the opening straight and after the first right turn before before turn 2. Only once in all 6 tries did I ever pass someone after the chicane, so don't bank on it.

I hope that helps guys!
 
make sure you're racing with RACING MEDIUMS. After race 4 I realized that I had still been using racing hard and he wouldn't push very hard in the corners.

You sir are are a god damn genius!! This has gotta be the answer to 99% of this. For the last 4 hours I've struggling with this ready to hit the roof. Slapped on some RACE MEDIUMS and what do you know, 1st by lap 2 overtaking before the chicane. Left BOB to relax for the rest of the race while I made a sandwich and amlost had time to rub one out!!!
 
None of the advices worked so far using the Toyota 7. Guess a win is generated randomly as my AIs (5 so far) won certain events pretty easy where others struggled
 
You sir are are a god damn genius!! This has gotta be the answer to 99% of this. For the last 4 hours I've struggling with this ready to hit the roof. Slapped on some RACE MEDIUMS and what do you know, 1st by lap 2 overtaking before the chicane. Left BOB to relax for the rest of the race while I made a sandwich and almost had time to rub one out!!!

Quality... I'm glad I can promote multi tasking :cheers:
 
None of the advices worked so far using the Toyota 7. Guess a win is generated randomly as my AIs (5 so far) won certain events pretty easy where others struggled

Dude, I just hammered a leading 2J on the 2nd lap effortlessly. As long as the set up is right with the medium tyres, this will be easy, overtaking on all parts of the track. My 21 level bob had no issues what so ever. After he took the lead I gave no more instructions. He finished 5 secs ahead of the 2J.

I reckon he can win this without any push/relax instruction. I'll try it again and report back with full set ups etc.

Oh and its with the Toyota 7.
 
Moved to GT5 Q and A Section. And GT5lol, welcome to the boards, please review the AUP. You are expected to use proper grammar including apostrophe's and if someone hasn't replied after you posted, edit your previous response.

Jerome
 
Moved to GT5 Q and A Section. And GT5lol, welcome to the boards, please review the AUP. You are expected to use proper grammar including apostrophe's and if someone hasn't replied after you posted, edit your previous response.

Jerome

Thanks for moving this to the Q&A's, I'm sure it will get much more hits here. Hopefully letting more people complete this annoyance.

Did you throw the apostrophe in apostrophe's just for effect? 👍 I like what I see here!
 
None of the advices worked so far using the Toyota 7. Guess a win is generated randomly as my AIs (5 so far) won certain events pretty easy where others struggled

You are babysitting your Bob right, and not pushing him like all the time?

I went the Toyota route and came back to these races, and found A-Spec no problem at all. Note you can use soft slicks in A-Spec, I didn't need any other mods though I did use ASM and anti-skid i admit, will go back and try without them later. Found the car a nice enough drive, have driven far worse.

B-Spec, Deep Forest wasn't too tricky with these settings but for Monaco I had to get the Stage 3 Turbo and rigidity mod. Also oil change each attempt but didn't pay out for overhaul engine/restore rigidity. I tried with the Stage 2 turbo but there would always be a 2J who got out front I could never quite overtake.

When I had the Stage 3 turbo for some reason the 2J driver seem to make more errors, he went out front but clipped something and spun around allowing me to take him early on, leaving me in second place behind a Jag, who was pretty easy to then reel in.

First couple of laps are often messy though, cars all over the place and Bob seems very cautious. Let the pack spread just a little, don't push him if you can help it (or unless his mood turns blue) and then if you come out of a corner into one of the straightish sections such as the uphill at the start or the tunnel, use overtake, but not when you are right up to the bumper of the car in front as Bob gets the shakes again, click when there is a gap of a few car lengths and he should dive past eventually. Sometimes the car you overtook will come out of the next corner faster and take you back, and Bob might just watch, so pace up now and then to prevent this.

Personally I never use pace down, but unlike some races where it seems to work, constantly hitting pace up in this race isn't a great plan and doesn't so much lead to errors as erratic use of the throttle and over-cautiousness. Let Bob chill and he will drive smoothly and reel people in.

Oh and I did try altering the tranny by reducing the max speed two clicks but then put it back to 199mph (with the turbo) and found this worked better. Didn't mess with any other settings, i'm sure some of the suggestions will help even more though.
 
I used the Toyota 7 that was won in like the wind for b spec. Beat both races first try. Oh and I used my back up driver who was
only level 13.
 
after reading the comments i finished 2nd with the toyota 7, before that it was total disaster, i feel that he can win it with a bit of luck
 
What's that? Caus' my Bob just can't win that race... And he's on lvl 24!

My lvl 21 Bob won't pass the leader. He catches him but always outbrakes HIMSELF every corner no matter how many times I tell him to overtake. Frustrating.

I'll come back when he's a couple levels higher and try again.
 
Same here "..with a bit of luck.". But P6 was best so far and i tried at least 10 times. I already got 5 "Bobs" and kept him in the blue range, the neutral and hot mood. Tried short, default and even longer gear ratios. Tested the car myself and gained 14 seconds on "Bob". And I'm experienced in setting up a vehicle as I'm doing sim racing more than a decade and raced race karts. Although karts have a one can say 100% power and idle differential I do know what differential adjustments do.
Each try my "Bob" stuck at a at least one carnage and the only one doesn't take advantage is my too gentle "Bob".
 
Thanks in advance Mate

Right this is the set ups for Monaco for the Toyota 7, again my lvl 21 bob breezed this.

Buy and install Racing Mediums and Lvl 2 Turbo upgrade...not sure how he'll do without the turbo.

Full Downforce

Transmission set to 162mph max

LSD 30/55/30

Suspension

Camber F 1, R 1.5
Toe F -.1, R -.05 (- is a minus)

Height F -22, R -23
Spring F 17.5, R 18
Damper Extension F 7, R 8
Damper Compression F 8, R 8
Anti-Roll F 7, R 7

Brakes F 8, R 8.

Bob, does need to be pushed hard on the first couple of laps. You should be ok once you get the lead. Dont give up if you have a crash. I've just won it again after 2 crashes, 1 at the chicane and 1 at the turn before the S/F straight.

Make sure to overtake the minute you hit the S/F straight, he can and will overtake all the way up to Casino hairpin.

Ease off at the chicane after the tunnel and try to time it for the last corner of the lap before the S/F straight IF he's sitting behind another car.
 
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