DeadNutsEven - Where anyone can win!!

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Welcome to the DeadNutsEven Racing Club! We’ll try and make it short and sweet but this is such a unique concept that it'll take some explaining. If you want the Cliff Notes condensed version of what you see below go to [post=7815135]Post 2[/post]

The DeadNutsEven Racing Club is a spinoff of the [post=7009913]Parity Racing League[/post] started in the spring of 2012 by Mike 5927. It is unlike any other Racing you have ever experienced on GT5, online or off. To create the closest possible racing, Mike devised a racing system where, on your honour, you take a car of your choosing and adjust the PP level of that particular vehicle so that you can run consistent laps close to a fixed target time. At the moment we are not using 4wd cars to eliminate a start advantage, but outside of that, any car is in play even racing cars. You can also tune or run stock, use ABS0 or not, AT/MT, Cockpit view etc. We don't use any other aids except ABS but with car choice open, you can choose all your favourite sticky cars for more consistency if that's what you need.


Where Do We Race and What are the Targets?

Each week, we’ll post a Track/Tire/Lap Time combination, along with a maximum top speed, in the [post=7815135]Second Post[/post] of this thread and you’ll have 7 days to post a car choice and lap time.

Pick any car, hit the track online, and fine tune it until you are just reaching, but not exceeding the target time and below the max speed. If you can't meet the max speed ceiling, you may need to go to the softer compound or pick a grippier car
. Bring your car to the DeadNutsEven Lounge and race, simple as that. Most of the guys will gather at various points in the week in the Lounge to fine tune their cars and you can join them to run laps with the draft and fine tune your car, or you can do it in your own lounge, that's up to you. You will get a heat or two to fine tune your PP and get used to running in traffic as necessary, and usually 3 feature races although we often add a 4th. A little over an hour in total.

Choosing cars and arriving at your PP level isn’t as difficult, you get a feel for it after a couple of weeks. If you’re familiar with a few cars, you can spend a half hour or less each week choosing a car, and while you’re fine tuning your set up, you are also learning the car/track/tire combination.

Which Cars Are Best?

While you can choose any car, we suggest you choose cars you can run consistent laps with. Make no mistake, this is the type of close racing you have been searching for your entire GT Series career so you'll want a ride that's consistent and easy to handle.. We want everyone to be in the mix and have a shot at a podium or victory but at a bare minimum be able to mix it up in traffic with confidence and control.

You WILL be as Fast As Everyone Else on the Grid​

Good rules make for good racing so we generally follow the [post=3176790]GTP Online Racing Rules[/post] In a nutshell, the OLR"s provide a standard set of rules for passing, blocking etc. and what to do in the case of contact. We are a courteous bunch. We race hard but we race fair and clean. If you cause contact and impact another driver’s race, we expect you to pull aside when it’s safe and let them regain their position. Running two wide is a common occurance in DeadNuts racing but we expect you to be prepared to do so if you choose to do it..

When all the cars run the same lap times as they do here, your absolute level of skill, becomes meaningless. In the Dead Nuts Even Racing Club, it's good racecraft that lays the groundwork for enjoyable racing and often leads to the podium. Good racecraft means knowing your limits and sticking to them, knowing when to pass and when to back off, searching for a weakness in an opponent and setting up a pass several corners ahead. WE GUARANTEE YOU'LL BE AS FAST AS EVERYONE ELSE ON THE GRID!!! We eliminate your skill deficit (or surplus for you faster drivers) allowing you to compete based on your ability to out guess and out think your fellow drivers, not on your innate or learned skill level.

You'll find more detail about our approach to racecraft here, courtesy of VBR. If you investigate this link and it meets your approval, I suggest you post on the thread to thank VBR for his work:

[post=4888688]VBR's Good Racecraft Guide[/post]

The following is required reading for all potential DeadNuts drivers. It's important we all race under a common set of guidelines and the following will give you a good idea of what is expected of you:

DeadNutsEven Classroom Training
[post=8122531]Overlap, Re-entering the Track and the Rev-Limiter[/post]
[post=8134965]Leaving a Gap & When Not to Pass[/post]


All you have to do to get started is post in this thread, send an FR to the DeadNutsEven PSN ID through your PS3, find the track/laptime/tire combo for this week in the [post=7815135]Second Post[/post], pick a car and start driving!!

We look forward to seeing you on the track!!
 
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Monday April 29 & May 6, 8PM EST
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Q cars:
Mazda RX-7 Hybrid 390PP

Top speed limit entering second corner: TBD

Note: This is a dual compound race on CS and SH Tires

If you cannot stay below the Max Speed on CS Tires, you must switch to SH.
Car selection is open to all but 4WD.

Heat 1: 4 laps, fastest first
Race 2,3: 8 laps, reverse grid
Race 4: 11 laps, reverse grid.

How to Proceed:

1. Choose any car you like that fits the regs, take it online to your own lounge or ours, fine tune it in any way that you prefer at your own unique PP level, and run enough laps on warm tires to make sure you can meet, but not get under the target lap time.

2 Show up at the DeadNutsEven Lounge Monday evening at the posted time. We'll run a couple of shorter heats, usually 3-5 laps depending on the track, to do any last minute sorting of PP and to get a feel for how the cars run together. After that it's usually 3 longer feature races. We'll generally keep racing for as long as people are willing to, schedules permitting.

Post your laptimes like this:

PSN ID/Car/Premium or Standard/PP Level/Tuning level/Tires/ABS on or off/Top speed at end of longest straight

Example:

Johnnypenso/Honda S2000 06'/Premium/415PP/Spec/CS/No ABS/212km/h

List your tuning level as follows:

Spec - Nothing changed on the car except for brake balance and/or engine limiter
Bolt On - Added parts that cannot be adjusted like filters, weight reduction, flywheel etc.
Tuned - Added any parts that can be and were tuned like transmission, suspension, LSD etc.

It's for database and comparison purposes only, there are no tuning requirements. ABS can be defined as No ABS or ABS, no need to specify the level.
 
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2.09
[post=7824489]Tsukuba 1:07, Sports Hards 11/19/2012 [/post] Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 412PP
[post=7832589]Tsukuba 1:07, Sports Hards 11/22/2012 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 412PP
[post=7844694]Monza 2:00, Sport Mediums, 11/26/2012 [/post]
[post=7867088]Suzuka East, 1:01, Comfort Softs, 12/03/2012 [/post] Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 425PP
[post=7887131]Suzuka East, 1:01, Comfort Softs, 12/10/2012 [/post] Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 425PP
[post=7908645]Cape Ring South, 1:29, Sports Hards, 12/17/2012 [/post] Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 440PP
[post=7983629]Monaco, 1:58, Comfort Softs, Lotus Elise Only, 01/07/13 [/post]
[post=8004170]Road Course Indy, 1:46, Sport Mediums, 01/14/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 455PP
2.10
[post=8061351]Nurb GP/D, 1:55, Comfort Mediums, 01/21/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 351PP
[post=8061351]Cape Ring Inside, 1:03, CS/SH, 01/28/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 367PP
[post=8088485]Grand Valley East Reverse, 1:14, SH/SM, 02/04/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 394PP
[post=8119913]Grand Valley East Reverse, 1:14, SH/SM, 02/09/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 394PP
[post=8119913]Grand Valley East Rev., 1:17, U.S. Muscle CS/SH, 02/11/13 [/post]Q Car: 1971 Mustang Mach 1, 404 PP
[post=8139305]Autumn Ring Reverse, 1:35, CS/SH, 02/18/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 345PP
[post=8156590]Autumn Ring Reverse, 1:35, CS/SH, 02/23/13 [/post]Q Car: BMW Z4 03', 345PP
2.11
[post=8167953]Autumn Ring Reverse, 1:31, CS/SH, 02/25/13 Rally Cars[/post]Q Car" Subaru Impreza WRC 08’, 457PP
[post=8189955]Autumn Ring Reverse, 1:31, CS/SH, 03/02/13 Rally Cars[/post]Q Car: Subaru Impreza WRC 08’, 457PP
[post=8189955]Trial Mountain Reverse, 1:45, CS/SH, 03/04/13[/post]Q Car: BMW Z4, 421PP
[post=8270190]Laguna Seca, 1:44, SH/SM, 03/11/13, FF's Only[/post]Q Car: Honda Integra 04', 404PP
[post=8295665]Rome, 1:37, CS/SH, 03/18/13, Vintage Euros Only[/post]Q Car: Alfa Romeo Giulia 361PP
[post=8318301]HSR, 1:17, SH/SM, 03/25/13, Euro Heavyweights[/post]Q Car: Alfa Romeo 8C, 458PP

Target Times Only:​

[post=8318323]Nurb GP/D, 1:46, SH/SM, 04/01 & 04/13,[/post]Q Car: BMW Z4, 425PP
[post=8364206]Tsukuba, 1:06, SH/SM, 04/15 & 04/22,[/post]Q Car: BMW Z4, 414PP
[post=8403499]Deep Forest, 1:33, CS/SH, 04/29 & 05/06,[/post]Q Car: RX7 Hybrid 390PP
 
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Here are some useful links to tuning and driving tips that are uniquely suited to our method of racing:

1- [post=7880781]DeadNutsEven LSD Tuning Guide with a link to MotorCityHami's Full LSD Manual[/post]
2- [post=7779752]FordMKIVJ5's Guide to NoABS Driving[/post]
3- [post=4888688]VBR's Good Racecraft Guide[/post]


DeadNutsTunes

2.09 Tunes

1 - [post=7884261]Mazda RX-8 Type S 07' , 425PP - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
2 - [post=7885691]Mazda RX-8 Type S 07' , 410PP - CS, by Johnnypenso[/post]
3 - [post=7885736]Suzuka GSX-R/4 Concept 01', 400 PP - CS, Seasonal Tune, by Johnnypenso[/post]
4 - [post=7890562]RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" 87', 450PP - SH, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
5 - [post=7889821]Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy 12', 485PP - SH. by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
6 - [post=7904702]Mazda RX-7 Spirit R, Type A (FD) 02 - Nurb -07:49.829 - 450PP - SH, by Johnnypenso[/post]
7 - [post=7908891]FORD Mustang Mach 1 '71, - 455PP - CS/SH, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
8 - [post=7914520]Lotus Elise 96', 400PP - CS, by Johnnypenso[/post]
9 - [post=7914596]Caterham Seven Fireblade 02', 504PP - CS, by Johnnypenso[/post]
10 - [post=7998790]Ruf BTR 86' - 460PP - SM, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]

2.10 Tunes

1 - [post=8065545]Toyota Supra JZA80 MkIV SZ-R '97 - 377PP - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
2 - [post=8080046]Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RM 69', 539PP - RH on Deep Forest, by Johnnypenso[/post]
3 - [post=8102404]NISMO R33 GT-R LM Road Going Version ' 95 - 415PP on GVER - SH, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
4 - [post=8121685]HONDA Insight LS '09 - 415PP on Autumn Ring Rev. - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]

2.11 Tunes

1 - [post=8161436]Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car, 450PP - CS on Autumn Ring Reverse, by Johnnypenso[/post]
2 - [post=8174043]Scion FR-S 12' - 410PP on TM Reverse - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
3 - [post=8180709]MASERATI GranTurismo S '08 - 425PP on TM Reverse - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
4 - [post=8180709]DODGE Viper GTS '02 - 435PP on TM Reverse - CS, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]
5 - [post=8200791]MINI COOPER S Countryman '11 - 415PP on Laguna SecaTM Reverse - SH, by Ridox2JZGTE[/post]

Video Replays



This is our first promotional video. We apologize for the video quality, it's something we're working on and will improve in the future, but it gives you a good idea of what we are all about, which is very close, very competitive racing, done with respect for our fellow drivers. We believe in integrity before victory and yet we provide what is likely the closest racing in all of GT5. Come to one of our events, you can come anytime, there is no obligation at any point and see how we do things, and we're sure you'll find it a great place to race!!:cheers:
 
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Sag! Yes, same bat time, same bat channel!! Cote and Track can't make it this Monday unfortunately but I believe Cote is trying to put something together for Thursday if you're interested.
 
Ferraridude308 / Honda NSX Coupe '97 / Standard / 420-425PP / Lightly Tuned / No ABS

I just had an idea: one of the reserved posts could be a section for the best videos from the best races. That way people can see just how exciting and tense it gets in the races.
 
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so do you want me to post my time in this new thread? also is it ok if I change my car if I want to?
 
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I just had an idea: one of the reserved posts could be a section for the best videos from the best races. That way people can see just how exciting and tense it gets in the races.

That's a good idea Ferrari. We can work on that in the next few days.👍

so do you want me to post my time in this new thread?

Yes, sorry about that, but please post your times here in this thread. Follow the format in post 2 please:)
 
^there is no place in that format for a time to be posted? is that by design?

Yes, the target is listed as 1:07.0 and we are all on our honour here, so we assume you are as close to the target time as you can be. Whether you are 1:07.05 or 1:07.12 doesn't really matter.:)
 
will be monitoring this space, I didn't get to see the parity racing league, but overall this looks like the ducks gut's.
 
As unfortunetly ( for me ) I am unable to race Monday, I was thinking on racing Thursday Nov 22nd, I realise it is Thanksgiving in the US, but not every one is into family gathering, so, who else is game for the 22nd at Tsukuba? same target, same time as Monday.

@ RDAarvark

It would be great to have a Euro time zone friendly event, I would be available to set it up on Monday's or Friday's. What time would you think would work best for you, let me know in GMT. 1 am in UK is 1 am gmt, right?
Within your GT5 friends, would you think a few might be interested?

JP, I had an idea for the OP: in the Dead Nuts Even League you are always fast enough, the only question left is; are you smart enough to win?,
Racing witht he Dead Nuts Even racer is a mind game. Might be over the top but it is the idea, I know from participating in most of the past 50 events that most of you have out smart me many times.:)

Izzyracer97
^there is no place in that format for a time to be posted? is that by design?
Yes you can change your car, we post the cars mostly because it is fun to see what the other have choosen so we don't end up with the same vehicule. Only important thing is to get ready for the right pace.
The only question you will have left after Monday event is: Why did I not participate in that league sooner? LOL.
 
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The only question you will have left after Monday event is: Why did I not participate in that league sooner? LOL.

I like to be in depth so I know what I can and cannot do. Sorry for being so thorough, it's the racer in me I was trained from an early age :D
 
Logo is done! I worked in the checkered flag you wanted, Johnny. :)
 
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Here's the logo I made, tell me what you want done, I'll try and add it to it. I worked in the checkered flag you wanted, Johnny. :)
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Edit 1:It looks weird and pixel-y looking at it now. I'm going to try and get Photoshop to save it in a nicer looking way...

Edit 2:Well, saving it as a .png versus a .jpg made it slightly better, I'm going to keep trying...

Edit 3:Its current state is the nicest I can get it to look. It still has some weird looking pixels, but I guess having the image being transfered from GT5, to a flashdrive, to a computer, to the internet, to my computer, into Photoshop, out of Photoshop, and to the internet again has made it lose some quality.

jpeg. and mode 3 work best if you want to put a pic on the internet 👍

room open: 1472-6118-3787-3247-3435
 
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jpeg. and mode 3 work best if you want to put a pic on the internet 👍

room open: 1472-6118-3787-3247-3435

Is that the DeadNutsEven Lounge ID#? If so, you only need to say you are in the DeadNutsEven Lounge because anyone who isn't a "friend" of Deadnuts can't get in anyway. I sent FR's to all the current and some past participants I could think of last night from DeadNuts. Feel free to use the Lounge at any time for practice, impromptu races, testing etc. For any of you new guys it will help to run a few laps with someone else who is dialed into the current track and target time as it takes a bit of adjusting to get used to. You'll be on track with someone who has less power but is faster through the corners, more power but slower through the corners etc. As opposed to "regular" PP limited or spec racing, where if someone is or faster or slower in the corners they are usually the same speed on the straights as you.
 
Is that the DeadNutsEven Lounge ID#? If so, you only need to say you are in the DeadNutsEven Lounge because anyone who isn't a "friend" of Deadnuts can't get in anyway. I sent FR's to all the current and some past participants I could think of last night from DeadNuts. Feel free to use the Lounge at any time for practice, impromptu races, testing etc. For any of you new guys it will help to run a few laps with someone else who is dialed into the current track and target time as it takes a bit of adjusting to get used to. You'll be on track with someone who has less power but is faster through the corners, more power but slower through the corners etc. As opposed to "regular" PP limited or spec racing, where if someone is or faster or slower in the corners they are usually the same speed on the straights as you.

I can't get in because of NAT type unless someone else is in that was my room. I'm not Friends with DeadNutsEven yet
 
I can't get in because of NAT type unless someone else is in that was my room. I'm not Friends with DeadNutsEven yet

You are now Izzy. All FR's are current as of now. I have to head out to work for a while, maybe all day, not sure at this point. I'm going to set it up so that multiple people have access to the DeadNutsEven PSN ID so there should be less delay than usual in accepting new members. :)
 
Lounge has been vacated... Some very close practice races today, with two of them ending with a gap of less than 0.100! Looking forward to Monday and Thursday!

NCemtB/Subaru BRZ S '12/Premium/409PP/Spec/ABS 1
 
In two of the practice races we did this morning the gap between 1st and 2nd across the line was less than a tenth of a second. The races really fit with the motto of planning too. You had to plan out a pass around Cote on the last corner if you wanted any hope of winning. The races ended up with gaps of:

+0.090
+0.019


Looking forward to Monday & Thursday!
 
Some cool racing and close finish this morning at Tsukuba, thank you guy's, great way to start the week end.

cotedazur06/Chrysler Prowler '02/Standard/475PP/light tune/no ABS

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Second lap, I am ahead, but not for long.

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Ferrari think my Prowler is too wide. LOL

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Nobody is getting away when everyone has the same pace by design.

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A close race all the way to an incredible close finish, .019, congratulation NC.
 
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