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The only Shonens that get watched here are Death Note, and the Fullmetal Alchemist series, that's it.
Yes many loved Baccano! for reasons other than those two, including me, though they helped really make the show for me, and so many other people. Everyone I've ran into loves Baccano!, and what pops up on their favorite character lists pretty much every time? Miria and Isaac, they're pretty popular characters.
This is pretty much the first and only place (Other than ARM which is practically an extension of this thread now) I've encountered someone who didn't like Trigun. It's very, very hard for me to find people that don't like Trigun.
Trigun had so much potential, ruined by it's main character...
Asobi ni Iku yo! was much better than I expected it to be. I enjoyed that show.
Upotte! was only 10 episodes. But I pretty much just kept watching it for the gun facts and masturbation, even though the latter part only happened once.
Endless-Wilso, please fix that last quote that is "quoting" me. It is very confusing and highly innacurate.
Have you even seen anything Rurouni Kenshin? Do you know how it's just Reflection and T&B and not the TV series that made me cry? Both are considered very depressing, especially Reflection which people consider way too depressing (And I can very easily see why as it's never happy-joy-joy). The TV series has NOTHING in there that would make me cry.Seriously? The only one who has any bias is you, majority of what you watch are shounen shows. You cried for KENSHIN, but not Clannad.
You do know many of these series based off of manga don't have endings either right? Most anime adaptions based off of manga never cover all the manga (Even for Shonen Jump series, we saw Gintama, Shaman King, Beelzebub, Reborn!, Bleach, and D.Gray-man to name a few fail to do so), and if they did, you'd see A LOT more stuff being 100+ episodes as 150 chapters or more is a very common thing for manga.You also can't deny the fact that the reason we stray away from those 'popular' shows with a lot of episodes is the fact that it has a lot of episodes. Why would I watch 52 episodes of a series, and not get an ending, when I could watch four 13 episode series and be satisfied? It's like preferring blue balls over 4 really good BJs.
If I did, I'd be attacking you guys directly for not liking shows I love that you guys did actually in fact see a good chunk of. Like I'd be attacking you guys directly for liking Madoka Magica over something like say Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, Mushi-Shi, or Welcome to the N.H.K (Which BTW, very, very nearly got a 10 from me).And it's like you have some kind of personal vendetta against anything that you don't agree with. You seriously need to take a chill pill and not write walls of broken logic.
So I discuss it more? And?TC, you keep bringing up that show with the kid that has fire in his hair. Your comments are invalid.
Have you even seen anything Rurouni Kenshin? Do you know how it's just Reflection and T&B and not the TV series that made me cry? Both are considered very depressing, especially Reflection which people consider way too depressing (And I can very easily see why as it's never happy-joy-joy). The TV series has NOTHING in there that would make me cry.
And again, so what if I didn't cry for Clannad? Does EVERYONE have to cry for that show? No, they don't, just like how nobody has to cry for Kenshin either. If you guys watched Trust & Betrayal, and/or Reflection, and didn't cry, you wouldn't see me getting on you for not crying for that, but crying for Clannad. It depends on the viewer, and to be honest, making a viewer cry is one of the hardest things to do.
No form of media whatsoever has ever made me cry IIRC until I watched Trust & Betrayal that third time. That was the first instance I can recall of me ever shedding actual tears when watching anything. Beforehand, Fruits Basket's final 3 episodes, and One Piece nearly made me shed tears.
Also I have a bias towards Shonen, and most of what I watch is Shonen? Look at what I've watched, plan on watching, and am currently watching. List everything Shonen, and then list everything not Shonen.
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/BigOnAnime
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/BigOnAnime/anime/wanttowatch (Doesn't include nearly everything, and I can assure you, most I want to add isn't Shonen. Much of it is fanservice shows.).
(Also, check this out)
Also again, just because it's Shonen doesn't mean it's good. If that were the case, I'd be considering Buso Renkin, Medaka Box, MAR, Dragon Crisis!!, Kiba, Shana III, and more masterpieces.
Also watching on a weekly basis isn't that hard. Nobody is telling you to catch up to episode 552 of One Piece in like 10 days. Watch at your own pace with these shows. Honestly, I feel people give long shows too much crap when they're not Shin Chan (Nearing 900 episodes), Sazae-San (6500+), Pokemon (That's around 1000 with all the series), or Case Closed (Nearing 700 episodes).
Not saying you need to watch long shows, just that you shouldn't just look at the large episode count and go "Screw this ****.".If I did, I'd be attacking you guys directly for not liking shows I love that you guys did actually in fact see a good chunk of. Like I'd be attacking you guys directly for liking Madoka Magica over something like say Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, Mushi-Shi, or Welcome to the N.H.K (Which BTW, very, very nearly got a 10 from me).
You also don't see me going "You don't find Eden of the East to be a masterpiece, and find Madoka Magica better than it? You're an idiot.". I just accept the fact lots of people aren't going to like it as much as me, and move on. If they like it, great, we might have something more to talk about. If they don't like it, oh well, it's just not their cup of tea.
The issue I had with Cano here was he was practically preaching Trigun being a bad show as fact, and everyone who likes it is an idiot, when really, it's subjective. It's not a fact Trigun is good. It's not a fact it's bad either, it's up to the viewer to see how it will be in their opinion.
The problem is when people go around voicing their opinions on shows like they're fact, and can't tolerate the opinions of others.
3. Yes, but you make it seem like "Oh, it's a Shonen. TC is going to give it a 10/10! Reborn! 10/10. Kiba 10/10! Kenshin, 11/10! He'll like them more than my Bakemonogatari, Steins;Gate, Madoka Magica, etc. and fail to see why those rank higher". Not all the Shonens I've seen are good, and the fact they're Shonen, I forget they're Shonen when I'm watching them, just like how I forgot Honey & Clover was Shojo at times, especially since that was very engaging. BTW, did I forget to mention this show nearly made me cry too?
4. I have math remediation classes from 8:00 AM-11:30 AM, and drivers ed from 1:00 PM-4:00 PM. It's almost like I have a full-time job as I have that much time taken away from me currently. I have less free time, but I still manage to watch stuff. In fact I'm watching more than I did during the school year...
You can keep up. Also yes you may finish shows faster when they're shorter, but at times you'll be left in distaste over a lack of a conclusion. 12 episode series struggle with semi-concluding endings more than 26, and it's one reason I prefer 26 episodes on various things. Though I don't want most to be 50+.
5. Lash out? Yes that has happened, but so with you. Remember Endless Eight? Remember Accel World vs. Okami-San? It occurs when we get increasingly frustrated.
I just end up posting my thoughts, and then you get irritated. You got irritated when you saw I liked Okami-San (A show I found quite entertaining) over Accel World (A show that's barely holding my interest and increasingly in danger of being dropped), and when I found Endless Eight and S2 of Haruhi bad.
Also I have difficulty doing so in a mature manner? I'm trying to get out "Opinions on shows=Opinions, not facts". This is what bugged me a lot about Cano tonight, he was making it sound like Trigun being a bad show is a fact, and he's in the majority. I was trying to convey how he's in a minority, and that his opinion isn't fact. Mine isn't either.
Also continually saying my taste in anime is bad, and I'm an idiot for not liking x thing isn't mature either, so we're both not in a position to talk.
6. Except when it's like the 5 CM Per Sec arguments where I continually get bashed no matter how hard I try to voice my opinion (it usually starts with someone quoting me, not me quoting them) and get out I'm not saying my view of the ending is fact, and how it was terrible for me. It's fine for me to find it bad, just like for you to find Eden of the East's ending bad.
Never went "You find it good? You have bad taste and are an idiot." which is similar to when I posted about Madoka's ending (Except "good" should be "lackluster" for that), and people got on me for that.
You guys practically make it sound like it's a fact the ending for 5 CM Per Sec is good when it's all subjective in the end (Especially when it created controversy). It's in the eyes of the viewer.
The problem isn't Cano making Trigun being a bad show a fact, you were accepting his opinion as if it were a fact.
Was already was on it before i saw your post:tup:
And cruchyroll had 11 for some reason i beleve
I'm actually scared of what TC would think if he got NGE.![]()
Then explain the post a while back about you getting on me for liking certain shows over Steins;Gate, a show I can't see why it gets a mean score of 9.16 on MAL, and tons of 10/10's? "Guess you prefer perfect shows like Katekyo Hitman Reborn!, One Piece, and Rurouni Kenshin over Steins;Gate? Amirite?"And there you go with assumptions again. You know what I like more than Bakemonogatari and Steins;Gate? Nichijou, FMA:B, TTGL, and Code Geass. You know what genre I like the most? Comedy. Let that thought sink in for a bit.
I wasn't saying it was like I truly, truly, actually had one (Just kinda close), and you also are forgetting the commute, that adds in time. I'm out of the house for around 7 and a half hours.Dude, that's only 6 hours. The only way you could technically be working full time at 6 hours a day is to work 6 days a week, and you would still need to make up 4 more hours.
But you know what series end in 12 episodes or less? Bunny Drop and AnoHana. And yes, I say Bunny Drop ends because they better not animate anything after volume 4.
The issue is yes I get thatThat's because I literally spoon-fed you what was really going on in Endless Eight, and you still didn't get it, you only cared about it being a time loop.
I never said I couldn't, I just never did reply on the actual issue.For Ookami-san, I already stated that I was trying to get you to explain what aspects of it you found better than Accel World, which you outright said you couldn't. That boy in Ookami-san is such a coward, only what, once, did he actually show some back bone?
Uh, explain this? What's in bold is where it went wrong and into it basically being a fact when it's just an opinion.The problem isn't Cano making Trigun being a bad show a fact, you were accepting his opinion as if it were a fact.
He was referring to stuff like Rurouni Kenshin and Trigun in there. By "everyone else", he's implying that it broke the show for most people, and most people hate the show.I'm beginning to notice you like most of what's bad about anime. The stupid, annoying characters, the stupid phrases, the idiotic comedy, all the stuff that seems to break shows for everyone else you find "awesome".
If you didn't see the movie, why get involved anyway? Also during the music, they recap the events that happened in the movie, so really nothing extra is added.You said 5cm per Second abruptly ended when the music started. I said it didn't, because it didn't end until the music stopped.
By the way, I didn't watch 5cm per Second. True story.
I'm talking about you guys finding the ending basically awesome, as in really good, as in amazing. Or to put it simply, the quality of the ending, not what the actual ending is.And same thing with Madoka, I don't think you truly understood what was going on in the end. The ending isn't actually a good ending, per say. Madoka may have actually made that universe worse. Makes you wonder what the 3rd movie will be about since the first two are supposed to be a recap of the series.
See, he gets it.I didn't read any of that, but for Sly to say that only TC has a bias is hella incorrect. Everyone has their own different bias.
So he didn't cry about Clannad. Not everyone will, that's just how it is.
Haruhi also has the bigger ass. Unless it's fan art of Asuka, in which case she's waaaaay bigger ._.
Then explain the post a while back about you getting on me for liking certain shows over Steins;Gate, a show I can't see why it gets a mean score of 9.16 on MAL, and tons of 10/10's? "Guess you prefer perfect shows like Katekyo Hitman Reborn!, One Piece, and Rurouni Kenshin over Steins;Gate? Amirite?"
And I could guess you like the Comedy genre the most. Also just want to say FMA:B practically goes past Shonen. Even people with a very negative bias towards Shonen have loved that show.I wasn't saying it was like I truly, truly, actually had one (Just kinda close), and you also are forgetting the commute, that adds in time. I'm out of the house for around 7 and a half hours.
Also yes there are series that end in 12 episodes or less, but here's the thing, most adaptions these days don't adapt everything. The anime just ends up being an advertisement for the source material. Many will use cliffhangers (With the studio having no intent on making more) to really get the viewer to go out and try the source material.The issue is yes I get thatbut it was lazy. They spend 8 episodes repeating the same exact thing only with different angles and clothes, when they could have done it in far fewer episodes. It was redundant, absolutely redundant. They could have done 3 episodes, and then put in 5 episodes of little stuff from the novels. Basically I'm saying if it was done better (Especially since there are so many things in various forms of media that have used timeloops much better), it could have turned out better.it's about Nagato getting sadder and sadder and getting emotions
Want to why I liked Okami-San so much? First off the story, while fairly simplistic (Typical romance-aside from one partner being afraid of being stared at), it was quite interesting, and I also really liked most of the characters. They made the show. Ryoshi actually is one of my favorite characters in the show, especially as he could be quite funny. Though his condition (They explained why he has it near the end) could get a little tiring at times. I also found Ryoko and him to be a pretty cute couple which helped.
The various events in the show I found to be quite enjoyable. Though one issue is that narrator. Too many times you're trying to pay attention to the dialogue and she interrupts, making it harder to enjoy what she's interrupting at all.
Also he showed back bone more than once. If you bothered to watch the whole show, you would have seen him getting beaten to a pulp trying to protect Ryoko in episode 11. IIRC, there was even another moment.
Then the way he went about voicing his intense hatred for Trigun, he made it sound like it's a fact that it's terrible.If you didn't see the movie, why get involved anyway? Also during the music, they recap the events that happened in the movie, so really nothing extra is added.I'm talking about you guys finding the ending basically awesome, as in really good, as in amazing. Or to put it simply, the quality of the ending, not what the actual ending is.
DKHaruhi is 2 years older than Asuka IIRC...
Wow, this guy just craps essays and paragraphs on a dime. Kinda wish it'd be diverted on other things rather then arguing.
Wow, this guy just craps essays and paragraphs on a dime. Kinda wish it'd be diverted on other things rather then arguing.
You forgot this post, didn't you?There you go with assumptions again. You just love putting words in other people's mouths, don't you?
Yes, but the point I'm making is you have less free time. Commuting is not free time either.If it were a job, you don't get paid for commuting, so it's still only 6 hours since that's the only time your at school or whatever.
However, you stated you liked Endless Eight, and found Haruhi season 2 very good, that arc being one reason why.And I also agree that 8 episodes was stupid, but you completely forgot that I did.
Didn't you say multiple times you dropped it at episode 10?I dropped it at episode 11. That was the only time he showed backbone, all the other times he hid behind something and shot things with his slingshot.
Orly now? How did he not make it sound as a fact Trigun is a terrible show, and everyone hates it?See, you're doing it again. You're accepting his opinion as fact, and you are not moving on like you said you do.
Not really, and you still have nothing happening really. It's a lack of closure ending, and many I've talked to that liked the ending admit it lacks closure. What one person said here.Nothing extra is added? They cross paths at a train crossing.
To be honest, I thought the ending fit the tone of the story very well. I liked the fact that there was no actual resolution, but instead there was an affirmation that he had decided to move on with his life and not let the past hold him back.
Yet you keep replying...You just don't know when to stop. How many times do I need to say it?
It should be noted I suck at essays. You'd be surprised how bad I am at them.Wow, this guy just craps essays and paragraphs on a dime. Kinda wish it'd be diverted on other things rather then arguing.
^ You have to avoid watching Sekirei then, all the beautiful ladies duking it out.Y everyone argue? All I want is pretty ladies, not fight![]()