GTP WRS-Online : Event 49 : NS X-Men - Reunion

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Presents...

NS X-Men - Reunion

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:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::


August 15, 2012


European Time Slot

3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 19:00 GMT

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North American Time Slot

10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 2:00 AM GMT

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Choice of Honda Mugen or Mobil 1 NSX (Super GT) '01 @ Fuji GT

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Stewards Notes

Both of these cars are currently available in the OCD so acquisition will be easy. They are also trade-able. If you are familiar with the premium GT 500 NSX models you might be worried about running these without tuning... don't, these older standard versions handle quite well at Fuji right out of the wrapper. At full power (509 hp) with the stock transmissions they do hit the limiter on the long front straight if you get a good draft so we've lowered the max power to 493 hp to minimize the impact (it still happens with a perfect draft setup, but doesn't impact any passing). All drivers should fully break in the car (or buy from OCD), change oil and then use the PL to set power at 493 hp.

As far as car choice, it appears they are nearly identical in pace, and it will just come down to driver preference (or cosmetic preference). If you find one faster for you then use it! There are no regulations on the number of drivers in each car so each participant is free to choose whatever they desire. You can even use a different car for each time slot if you like (that's my plan unless one car ends up favoring me).

Finally, these cars were run in JGTS ten years ago in '02 hence the title of this event (credit for that goes to Marc). All I could come up with was "Matsuda v Schwager" or "Mugen v Mobil 1". :dunce:
 
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In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid.

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(table will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)



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Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!

Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
  • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (use your GTP_ tag ID)
  • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
  • Send a PSN friend request to GTP_3D3Racing, GTP_3D3_A and GTP_3D3_B from your GTP_tag account.
  • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.

There is a 32 car/driver limit for this event (per region) and slots are awarded on the grid using a first come first serve basis. Reference the registered drivers table above for availability. This is a stand alone race and points are not tallied for a series. Future WRS-Online races hosted by 3D3 racing may have different driver limits and will require re-registration using the same first come first serve basis and participation in future events is optional.

Registration Changes

If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.

Delaying or Restarting Race Start

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
  • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
  • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
  • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
  • Latecomers, even if you've registered
  • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)

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Lounge Settings (@ GTP_3D3Racing)

  • Race Quality: Standard
  • Voice Chat Quality: Low (Disabled if grid is over 12 drivers)

Official Practice Times

  • NA: Tuesdays @ 8:00 PM Eastern / 5:00 PM Pacific / 12:00 AM GMT
  • EU: Tuesdays @ 19:00 GMT / 3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific
  • Pre-Race: The lounge is open for pre-race practice appx 1 hour prior to the official start of each event

Course & Car Settings
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  • Track: Fuji Speedway GT
  • Car: Choice - Honda Mobil 1 NSX '01 | Honda LOCTITE MUGEN NSX '01
  • Tires: Racing Hards (R1's)
  • In Event Tuning Settings: Tuning Prohibited - R/A functions allowed
  • Example Tunes: N/A

Qualification Procedures

  • Type: Live Online Single Stint - No pits
  • Length: Single out-lap and 2 timed hot-laps
  • Groups: Group qualifying will be used if the grid size is large enough to warrant in order to avoid traffic during qualification.
  • Notes: Drivers not in the lounge by the time the first driver has entered the track after reset will not be allowed to qualify. They are welcome to join the race, but will start at the back of the grid. If we are running multiple qualification groups and the driver enters before the last group has entered track an exception will be made.

Event Settings

  • Game Mode: Normal Race
  • Laps: 35 (+1 formation lap)
  • Start Type: Staggered Formation Lap with Rolling Start (see below)
  • Grid Order: Fastest First
  • Boost: No
  • Slipstream strength: Weak
  • Penalty: Off
  • Automatic Race Start Cycle: Disabled
  • Race Finish Delay: Set to 110% Average lap (120 sec)
  • Grip Reduction: Real
  • Mechanical Damage: Light
  • Visible Damage: Off
  • Tire Wear / Fuel Consumption: On
  • Pits: Open & Optional

Regulation Settings

  • Performance Points: N/A
  • Power: 493 HP (PL @ 97.0%)
  • Weight: 1050 kg (Stock)
  • Engine Tuning Modifications: Not Allowed
  • Intake, Exhaust Modifications: Not Allowed
  • Turbo or Supercharger: Not Allowed
  • Aero: N/A
  • Tire Restrictions: See above
  • Tuning: Prohibited
  • Skid Recovery Force | Active Steering | ASM: Disabled
  • TCS | Driving Line | ABS: Optional

Formation Lap

  • A steward will exit track, view the live timing monitor and announce the order after qualification while all drivers remain on track.
  • All drivers should exit track after the order is announced and enter the pits. When all drivers are in the pits a steward will start the race.
  • After the system places you on the grid drivers should proceed into stagger formation in order.
  • Pole sitter will take side of track (right or left) that is normally assigned to the pole position on the grid (Fuji = Left).
  • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
  • Speed limit on formation lap is 63 mph / 100 kph and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
  • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
  • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
  • Start marker for Fuji is start/finish line.
  • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
  • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
  • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
  • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.

Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:

  • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
  • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
  • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
  • 2 wheels on (or vertically in line with) the track at all times
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track
  • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
  • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.

Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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Ooooh, the Fuji GT version. There's not a single race in A-spec with that one, is there...?

For this type of racing, it's probably better though, as the chicane in the "F"-version is a real rhythm-breaker and a certain cause for mayhem in close racing.

Come to think of it, I don't think I ever raced the GT-version in GT5. I remember that the right-hander instead of the chicane is pretty fast though, and very easy to miss turn in. I imagine lots of people going wide on that one.

I also like that tuning is prohibited. 👍
 
Wow what a nice combo, love the GT500 NSX cars.
Like snowgt I don't think I have raced on that track on GT5 yet, good chance to try it.
Hope to have time to do this event.

No tuning is nice also.
 
I actually prefer Fuji F as it gives an extra place to pass and it doesn't have that "overun" problem that exists with the quick right hander. However, we ran Fuji F just a couple months ago in Fourth Generations Best and we haven't run the GT layout since January in TZ2, TZU (which was a great race by the way) so we went with GT this time.

As always drivers are expected to stay on track at all times and stick to normal WRS rules of two tires on track at all times. But during a live race we understand mistakes happen. There shouldn't be a pattern of going wide and no driver can benefit from doing so. That also includes going wide exiting the final corner onto the straight and the exit of turn 1.

Based on testing these cars pick up the draft like a pig sniffing truffles so it's going to be a nice change of pace after the last few events as passing will not be a problem. Going into turn 1 with an amazing head of steam is going to be common though so learn your alternate brake points.
 
Think I've finally found why I was getting booted randomly from PSN, there was a fault with my Sky tv box and everytime it was turned on it would drop the net connection, bloomin thing!

Sorted now finally :)

Signed up
 
I'm hoping I can get my pedals to cooperate. Fuji GT isn't my favorite layout (I always hit my braking point thinking I have to take the chicane), but I like the NSX GT500.

Regardless, I'm signing up as reserve for now.
 
Sounds cool:) I've signed up for both but not sure about the EU. I just chose the first car as I have to test both and will put up my preferred model.

As others posted above, Fuji is not my first love, but this will be a good time to get more familiar. See you in the lounge!

Edit: car chosen.
 
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Fun practice race today. Looks like, at 35 laps, a one stopper is definitely possible if you manage tires, but two stops is more likely except for the tire whisperers. Might depend on which scenario keeps you hooked up with the draft if you are following a faster driver.

Maybe after more practice a 17 + 18 stint will be faster. I can almost guarantee someone is going to try it.

Anyone know the "pit delta" at Fuji?

A note on pit entry. It should be a safe entry (and exit). You can't cross over from the left side of the track at full speed across the racing line into the pits and hit walls etc. On the other hand we are not going to penalize you if you cross over a white line on entry or exit as long as you don't impede a driver on track. You should make your pit entrance so there is no contact with any wall entering the pits (just as if it were any other part of the track, wall riding is not allowed).
 
This looks like a fun combo. I don't mind Fuji, but I don't like the chicane, so I'm pretty happy. However, I rarely ever get to race on this circuit. It never shows up in A-spec/seasonals. I once again won't have a lot of prep time, so feel free to pm me some pointers. 👍
 
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This looks like a fun combo. I don't mind Fuji, but I don't like the chicane, so I'm pretty happy. However, I rarely ever get to race on this circuit. It never shows up in A-spec/seasonals. I once again won't have a lot of prep time, so feel free to pm me some pointers. 👍
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One thing you could do is download and import some of the NTSC replays from the results of WRS week 49 here and watch the lines drivers take. That was a different car with full tuning, but the approach is basically the same, although brake points will differ quite a bit.

A good exit from the hairpin and a good exit from the final corner are the most import parts to nail for a good lap sine they are each followed by a long straight, not to mention setting you up to draft anyone in front of you. Other than that 100R is key to get right so you maintain speed, setup properly for the hairpin, but at the same time not destroy the left front tires.

If you can stay within a second of the guy in front of you it's pretty easy to catch up in the draft on the long straight. This car really sniffs out the slip stream.

The final sector is the easily most challenging. You want a front brake balance like 7/4 in order to keep the car from kicking out under braking, but you'll still need to be gentle on the brakes. You can pretty much hammer the breaks in T1 and T2, but need to feather them a bit in T3 for a fast lap.

Anyone else got some good tips?
 
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One thing you could do is download and import some of the NTSC replays from the results of WRS week 49 here and watch the lines drivers take. That was a different car with full tuning, but the approach is basically the same, although brake points will differ quite a bit.

A good exit from the hairpin and a good exit from the final corner are the most import parts to nail for a good lap sine they are each followed by a long straight, not to mention setting you up to draft anyone in front of you. Other than that 100R is key to get right so you maintain speed, setup properly for the hairpin, but at the same time not destroy the left front tires.

If you can stay within a second of the guy in front of you it's pretty easy to catch up in the draft on the long straight. This car really sniffs out the slip stream.

The final sector is the easily most challenging. You want a front brake balance like 7/4 in order to keep the car from kicking out under braking, but you'll still need to be gentle on the brakes. You can pretty much hammer the breaks in T1 and T2, but need to feather them a bit in T3 for a fast lap.

Anyone else got some good tips?
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Thanks. I'll check those replays out. I just registered for the event. I registered as confirmed this time so I'll get a spot in the room. I'll change it or post in here if it looks like I won't make it. With my kids I was registering as reserve because one never can tell how bedtime will go, but it seems it is better to register as confirmed and then cancel if it looks like a no go.

Looking forward to seeing you all later this week!
 
I'm in the lounge now for some testing, feel free to join me 👍

EDIT: did about 40 laps and wow this car is really nice. The track also is very fluid. Now I have to try the Mobil 1. Using BB 6/3

btw: can we discuss laptimes here?
 
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I registered as confirmed this time so I'll get a spot in the room. I'll change it or post in here if it looks like I won't make it. With my kids I was registering as reserve because one never can tell how bedtime will go, but it seems it is better to register as confirmed and then cancel if it looks like a no go.
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I assume you saw my post on the topic in the general discussion thread.

Here's exactly what we're looking for with the race status. If the norm is you would be able to race and something with the kids that comes up is just random/unexpected then it's OK to confirm as you don't expect anything to prevent you from racing. However, if you think it's a 50/50 deal or very often you won't be available at race time then reserve is the proper option to choose.

BTW, I know it's tough with kids to predict as I have two young ones myself (8 and 6). I struck an agreement with my wife on Wednesday, but it wasn't cheap. :lol:

Note that last week was actually the only time since we started this series some 48 weeks ago that anyone had to "sit out" and we had two drivers who were willing to drive and locked out. And I was one who sat out with you so I understand your pain. If there were 17 confirmed drivers on the other hand we would have split from the start in two rooms.

So here's what I suggest for everyone... If you know there is a reasonable chance of something coming up that could keep you from racing you shouldn't confirm. Sign up now as reserve and keep it that way unless that "something" gets resolved. If nothing is on the horizon now sign up as confirmed and if something does come up change your status to reserve. Revisit your status on the day of the race when you have more information up to an hour prior to the race. And if you see the confirmed list is hovering around 14-17 on race day be especially careful what status you pick and to update your status if anything changes.
 
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I assume you saw my post on the topic in the general discussion thread.
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I did indeed. Seems to be well-reasoned and fair.

Note that last week was actually the only time since we started this series some 48 weeks ago that anyone had to "sit out" and we had two drivers who were willing to drive and locked out. And I was one who sat out with you so I understand your pain.
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It was a bummer to miss the race, but I didn't think it was unfair. What I was trying to say was that I'm going to make a big effort to be sure I'm there for the next couple races. At the end of August, I likely won't be doing the Race Series Online Events for some time.

It is a good problem to have too many people wanting to race than not enough. I concur with your other post that two rooms of 10-12 racers would be awesome.👍
 
WRP001
I assume you saw my post on the topic in the general discussion thread.

Here's exactly what we're looking for with the race status. If the norm is you would be able to race and something with the kids that comes up is just random/unexpected then it's OK to confirm as you don't expect anything to prevent you from racing. However, if you think it's a 50/50 deal or very often you won't be available at race time then reserve is the proper option to choose.

BTW, I know it's tough with kids to predict as I have two young ones myself (8 and 6). I struck an agreement with my wife on Wednesday, but it wasn't cheap. :lol:

Note that last week was actually the only time since we started this series some 48 weeks ago that anyone had to "sit out" and we had two drivers who were willing to drive and locked out. And I was one who sat out with you so I understand your pain. If there were 17 confirmed drivers on the other hand we would have split from the start in two rooms.

So here's what I suggest for everyone... If you know there is a reasonable chance of something coming up that could keep you from racing you shouldn't confirm. Sign up now as reserve and keep it that way unless that "something" gets resolved. If nothing is on the horizon now sign up as confirmed and if something does come up change your status to reserve. Revisit your status on the day of the race when you have more information up to an hour prior to the race. And if you see the confirmed list is hovering around 14-17 on race day be especially careful what status you pick and to update your status if anything changes.
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I confirmed for this week, looks fun!

Just to explain, my own "agreement" and system seems to be working pretty well for Thursday mornings so far - what I had been doing as far as the race is concerned was going on reserve then confirming when I wake up successfully. That might be slightly after 4am, though, so I can't manage that if it's frozen.

My expectations for the (for me) Thursday EU races are pretty low, since I usually only get the pre-race warm up as practice and tuning time - Tuesday nights I have rehearsals, Wednesday nights I have to get to bed early-ish to get up at 4am, at which point I also have to be fully ready to head to work, which usually cuts in a bit to the pre-race time as well. I'd not generally be able to handle pre-quali for the same reasons. If it would be more appropriate to let someone more gung-ho and prepared have the slot, and go back to the reserve, then confirm system (or post in-thread) when awake, I'm happy to do that too. I'll certainly put myself only on reserve or change status if it's dicey for any other reason.

Someone will normally be seeing me come on line while I'm resetting everything, anyway.
 
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Tumbleweeds blowing around here.

Going in for some practice in 30 mins. Feel free to join. Maybe we can set up some practice races if we get 4+ drivers.
 
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Tumbleweeds blowing around here.

Going in for some practice in 30 mins. Feel free to join. Maybe we can set up some practice races if we get 4+ drivers.
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Got a late start, heading to the lounge now.
 
Tim and I decided. 1'33's are probable.

There, said it. :armscrossed:
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And these NSX's drive awesome...:P
 
I'm not sure if I'm going to do the races this week. Feeling a bit burned out. I'll probably practice just to see how the cars are.

Plus, that F10 at Spa... :drool:
 
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I'm not sure if I'm going to do the races this week. Feeling a bit burned out. I'll probably practice just to see how the cars are.

Plus, that F10 at Spa... :drool:
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The NSX drives great fresh out of the wrapper, just make sure to use a BB like 7/4. Stay within a second and draft will take care of the gap. For me it's nice to be on a track where passing is clean and easy. 👍 Love me some Fuji. Although I do miss the chicane not included in this layout.
 
So there's a natural DRS with these cars? :lol:

Will keep my status as reserve until about 2 hours before the race depending on my decision to race or not.
 
Not just natural. ORGANIC DRS.
If you can imagine. Hope you can join in. 👍

I cannot miss a Fuji GT race.
 
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Tim and I decided. 1'33's are probable.

There, said it. :armscrossed:
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And these NSX's drive awesome...:P
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1'33's? :crazy: Oh my god, then I am way off the pace, have to pratice a lot, see you this afternoon and this evening in the lounge.
 
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