Muscle cars Suck

Vote if u think they suck I no they sound great but that is about it

What? Are you crazy? Muscle cars are what brought Sports cars to life. Muscle cars are the real deal.

Only in the usa u americans must remember that ther are people outside the us

Muscle cars are muscle cars. They do what they do well, go fast in a straight line.

Why is this thread in Rumor and Speculation?

Muscle cars are muscle cars. They do what they do well, go fast in a straight line.

Why is this thread in Rumor and Speculation?

James1985 - Could you please tone down your thread-making rate a bit? You seem to be making threads for the sake of making threads.

i am just expressing my opinion

Then try the opinions forum. Don't worry, you'll get your avatar.

Originally posted by James1985
i am just expressing my opinion

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Then why not gather it into one big opinion and express it that way, instead of in 10 one-liners?

Everybody has opinions; yours are nothing special and neither are anybody else's. Discussing them is what's important, and saying something like "muscle cars suck" doesn't qualify as discussion.

Originally posted by James1985
Only in the usa u americans must remember that ther are people outside the us

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What? I'm canadian, I live in Canada. I don't live in America.
I would take a Restored Muscle car over almost any modern car.

Originally posted by Super-Supra
What? Are you crazy? Muscle cars are what brought Sports cars to life. Muscle cars are the real deal.

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That said it all right there. Very good point, Super-Supra!

i can't argue because i know i made a thead a few days ago just so i can get posts. it worked but they closed the thread and took my posts away, but i only got to 3 anyway

Originally posted by Super-Supra
What? Are you crazy? Muscle cars are what brought Sports cars to life. Muscle cars are the real deal.

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In american maybe, that's about it. Muscle cars will forever be the boats of the fast car industry. I don't know about you, but i'd prefer a car that does a 11 second quarter mile and handles like a dream as compared to this Methanol burning old clunker with such agressive cams it sounds like it's going to stall it idle but can run 9's.

I would take a Charger, over a Corvette. Modern shmodern who gives. Park a Charger or Challenger beside a Corvette. Then tell me what defines the word Muscle car.

Lol. Well no one said a Corvette was a Muscle car, because it's not. A Corvette can handle, a corvette has curve's a Corvette's drag coefficient is low. Any car that has remarkable handleing is automaticly removed from the catagory of "Muscle" Hence the comparison of Brains and Braun..Brain being maneuverability and Braun being I can go in a straight line very fast.

Muscle Cars suck yea right, take a good look and see whos the fastest down the quarter mile, Vettes and Vipers are eating up everything in their path in the real life GT sereis cup.

Dont forget where you live, IN THE US!!!
American Muscle will always dominate, get it through your head.

Originally posted by Driftster
Lol. Well no one said a Corvette was a Muscle car, because it's not. A Corvette can handle, a corvette has curve's a Corvette's drag coefficient is low. Any car that has remarkable handleing is automaticly removed from the catagory of "Muscle" Hence the comparison of Brains and Braun..Brain being maneuverability and Braun being I can go in a straight line very fast.

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A corvette is Modern Muscle, Ever see the Green Corvette with a Vortech super charger, holding around 700 HP and can go about 220 mph. While getting 22 mpg

Dont you know what a L88 Corvette is? Only add tuned headers and the car holds 450+hp.

Lol Since when does power have to do with weather or not the car is a muscle car? There are PLENTY of heavily powered cars out there that arn't Chargers or Chevelle's or Superbirds or anything like that. So the whole inclusion of how much power the car can get is irellivent.

Originally posted by Super-Supra
What? Are you crazy? Muscle cars are what brought Sports cars to life. Muscle cars are the real deal.

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Hahahahahahahahah no. Sound nice but suck.

Hmm, I think my nick here gives it away. I'm pro for muscle cars, feeling the power of a big block engine as you push further and further on the throttle is hard to put into words, but its something I never tire of.

I can't believe how childish some people are being on here, by saying "muscle cars suck" and I think I didn't read it right, yes, yes I did, "a corvette isn't a muscle car?" Ouch. I'm really trying to compensate for some peoples intelligence in here, I really am. I respect most sports cars, different type and where they come from. I just wish more people could as well, but god isn't as giving with brains it seems. To be biast about a type of car ( muscle, tuner, etc ) and bash another type is pretty lame, don't call yourself a fan of motorsports if you can't enjoy it all. For a while there, I was against those "rice burners" or "tuner cars", but then I went for a ride in somebodys done up civic, and I just dropped all my biast ways.

muscle cars are also popular in australia

Originally posted by Ford427
Hmm, I think my nick here gives it away. I'm pro for muscle cars, feeling the power of a big block engine as you push further and further on the throttle is hard to put into words, but its something I never tire of.

I can't believe how childish some people are being on here, by saying "muscle cars suck" and I think I didn't read it right, yes, yes I did, "a corvette isn't a muscle car?" Ouch. I'm really trying to compensate for some peoples intelligence in here, I really am. I respect most sports cars, different type and where they come from. I just wish more people could as well, but god isn't as giving with brains it seems. To be biast about a type of car ( muscle, tuner, etc ) and bash another type is pretty lame, don't call yourself a fan of motorsports if you can't enjoy it all. For a while there, I was against those "rice burners" or "tuner cars", but then I went for a ride in somebodys done up civic, and I just dropped all my biast ways.

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The funny thing is you're this "Muscle fan" yet you dissagree with the fact that a Corvette isn't a muscle car. Heck, even Musclecarclub.com doesn't think that a Corvette is a Muscle car. The Corvette has always been a PURPOSE built sports car/racer. No muscle car would come stock with a fiberglass body, or a 2 seater being the only option. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself. I trust this deffinition over any other i've ever heard of simply because it makes sense and includes all of the "PRoven" muscle cars that are out there.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-definition.shtml
Don't get me wrong i am not saying they SUCK, I just don't like them. I love how they sound in some instances, but that is the extent of it. If there was a different place to Vote I would vote for "I respect them but don't like them" But since there isn't I just voted for "Sound nice"..

NOTE TO ALL: this post is real long. sorry. but then again, I ask all of you to really read it. PLEASE. thank you to all of you who did, and to all of you who didnt.. well, u suck (j/k)

Originally posted by Ford427
Hmm, I think my nick here gives it away. I'm pro for muscle cars, feeling the power of a big block engine as you push further and further on the throttle is hard to put into words, but its something I never tire of.

I can't believe how childish some people are being on here, by saying "muscle cars suck" and I think I didn't read it right, yes, yes I did, "a corvette isn't a muscle car?" Ouch. I'm really trying to compensate for some peoples intelligence in here, I really am. I respect most sports cars, different type and where they come from. I just wish more people could as well, but god isn't as giving with brains it seems. To be biast about a type of car ( muscle, tuner, etc ) and bash another type is pretty lame, don't call yourself a fan of motorsports if you can't enjoy it all. For a while there, I was against those "rice burners" or "tuner cars", but then I went for a ride in somebodys done up civic, and I just dropped all my biast ways.

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that is right. howerver, this thread is entertaining. first of all, could you... er... james whatever number tell us, WHY muscle cars sucks??? I dont see ANYWHERE you are expressing an opinion, you are just being stupid. you said, but you dont deffend, so I can get on your same playing level field and say that YOU suck. why? because... well... lemme think some reasons. heh. gonna say something? justify it. then again... LOLOLOLOL because, as usual, people think that muscle cars only sound good. by god. yes, I can see it coming... "muscle cars dont turn. muscle cars cant do nothing but go fast in a straight line. muscle cars have this gigantic fuel consumption. muscle cars blah blah blah. yesssss, I LOVE how people let themselves go without further research. an example here is the poster of this thread, while an example of the contrary is Driftster, who really made some research. I shall agree you him... the Vette is NO muscle car. it never was. it was intended for the first time to be a SPORTS car. yeah, it shared the big powerplants of the day, but it aint muscle car. its a sportster. I dont trust in the "muscle car club"definition, but it isnt really a muscle car. never was, altough it really aproached to being one on the late 60s. however, back on topic, Id love to recall the qualities of many muscle cars, but as I dont have anything to work with, Ill stick with my "james I-dont-know-what, you suck, because I say so" argument until this dude comes in and tell us why muscle cars suck so much (because, golly, he says so?).

Cano

so, James1985, I think you suck so damned much. why? I'll tell you when you tells us why muscle cars suck so much. its THAT easy. and then, you can get back ANY opinion or tought about yourself that I have made. just as I will take back anything you have against any muscle car.

oh, and as for remembering that there are people outside the US, well, guess what? Im mexican. and guess what? I love muscle cars too. OMG OMG OMG OMG a dude that loves muscle cars isnt from the USA!!!! OH GOD!!!
such an IDIOTIC statement. but then again, I couldnt expect something else.

PS: you suck.
heh... that felt fine. I love sometimes to be cruel


well, that was for james I-dont-know-what. now, for Drifster, who isnt lame at all and wich looks like a person who you really can have a conversation and discussion with... well, lemme get this straight... you think that a muslce car is a methanol burning clunker with an agressive cam? that is a DRAG CAR, just like any other DRAG CAR in the world (well, no, but, you get the picture... cars moddified specially to go fast in a traight line). muscle cars aint no drag cars. its stupid to assume that they are only up to that. they are street cars, and if I may say so, impressive street cars for their day. they were produced 30-25 years ago, as Im sure you know because you read the "muscle car deffinition" by the muscle car club but, well, its a start. so you may know that, stock, they are fast even for this day. yes, they are not advanced, but they were made 30-25 years ago. and, well, about the handling stuff, yes, there were some of them that were real stones. but then again, there were some very tractible and well-handling muscle things. yes, I know that the fame of muscle cars has ALWAYS been that one -the dragstrip. and that aint changing, BUT there are MANY other trends that are adding to the muscle car (and general hot rodding) universe. people dont want their street muscle cars to be line-rockets aymore (that is why they build drag cars), so more and more suspension development for these things has surfaced in the last ten years. I can recall (and give links to) many muscle cars that can go 1G+ on the skid with the STOCK suspension design, and just a beef up here and there. yeah, you might say that that is not stock, but I cant compare nothing to modern things without being fair (and niether can recall anything street-modern that turns 1G+ on a completely stock suspension). we can throw a little modern fair to a muscle car. if you dont want, perfect, but then mention me something STOCK that is 30-25 years old, and runs elevens and turns like a dream.

yes, nearly every person you mention the words "muscle car" will think of a damned fat tire heavyweight going down the line. I think more of a pro-touring thing with independant suspension all around, big brakes and EFI going trough the track or trough a torturous road. heh, I might be weird because of that... I dont see a muslce car as a drag car, I see a muscle car as a good starting point to make a first class performer in every way. comments???

I mean... please... COMMENTS!!

Originally posted by Driftster
On that I have to mention the mexican Omni, great little car.

You're right, I was just making some generalized statement about the cars that I see in my area, I know that there are plenty of Muscle cars that handle great, I mean look at the history of trans am.
as far as the cars that are muscle cars that could turn, I just feel the need to mention the Mustang Boss 429, awesome performer on the track, and muscle to the bone. However you can't deny that 90% of muscle cars out there ARE gas hogs, maybe it's just because their old and back in the day most cars were, but they are gas hogs none the less.


Preach On.

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heh, it is SO weird, but I have to tell you that ALL Omnis were imported to the usa. they might have been built in here, because peope keep saying that, but in ALL my life, I havent seen A SINGLE ONE. I guess they were not for sale in Mexico.

and, well, yeah... its WAY easier to turn a muscle car into a dragger instead of a real car. I like drag racing pretty much, but I wouldnt build a dragster. Id build a real performer. I think most people would love to do that too, but it aint easy or cheap. altough it WILL get chaper and easier to turn you duster or mustang into a corner carver, it isnt that common nowadays. as for the gas hogs... well, yeah, its a damned V8. in the time, everycar was a gas hog, because gas wasnt as pricey and it was everywhere, AND because the injection systems on these things were really primitive. add to that a big-inch, carburated engine and yes, it swallows gas like mad. but everything has a solution if its a V8 there many EFI setups that can help you DOUBLE the milleage on yer car. also, there are overdrive transmission swaps that can help you get a way decent gass milleage on yer big block. I invite you to go to the photos and videos forum and check out the thread called "chicayne!!!". its about a 1962 chevy impalla with a 406 inch aluminum small block with TWO turbos, that cranks 1200 hp... but gets 19 mpg is that a gas hog??? I dont think so. well, few cars are modded like that, but, for example, HOT ROD magazine has been running a series of articles for some years now, that picture cars that can go 12 seconds and still clunck 20+ mpg. it is way interesting to see what theowners of thse thing do to get those levels of functionality and performance.

Cano

you rock for reading it complete AND for replying that fast. thank you. and I will preach on

I read that Chicayne thread, I commented on it to. I said something along the lines of The interior is great and the engine was amazine, I just didn't like the exterior of the car. IT looked to arched in the center for my liking. I'd take it in a heartbeat, and put the engine in something else. But I don't like the car.

James1985 you wanker, everyones waiting for you to explain why muscle cars suck. I cant think why so please tell me.

to one of the best cars ever built

these cars may be good in a staright line great 1/4 of a mile time but that dose't prove much who cares if it is fast in a straight line if u cant carry that speed into corners whats the point for me in real life driving in a straigh line is not fun and proves nothing about a persons driving skill apart from getting of the line proberly taking corners at speed is far more of an adrenilin rush and so much more skillfull then just going in a straight line.

And people are so blind and arrogant if they think these cars are the best in the world. They is nothing special about them apart from they sound nice and the use fuel like it is going out o fashion
In Europe we can make and design much better more powrefull engines that dont burn holes in the atmosherre Muscle cars are very basic crude and simple proberly why americans love them.

rather have a muscle car than a rice burner.

But id prefer almost any European car...especially the italian ones.

I didnt think vipers and vettes were muscle cars either.

I think this thread gets the award of the most pointless thread of the month